4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the
radio as I worked.

I caught the end of Open Book, but then at 4.30 it was Africa's Digital
Poets. This was essentially a sermon about white oppression in S Africa.
It's odd how often it happens that when you put Radio Four on it's
something like this. Sort of virtuous, concerned with race, and very boring.

I endured it for the sake of what might be on next. This turned out to
be a programme concerned with foreign domestic workers in the UK. On
several occasions the commentary attacked Teresa May. It was an
interesting programme but the repeated comments about Mrs May were
unneccessary.

Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This programme
told us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour Party
activities, and contained a vicious attack on Margaret Thatcher.

You know, I just get so sick and tired of the relentless chipping away
with this leftist stuff. It wouldn't matter if they had a neutral
programme on reasonably often, but they don't. There's always some sort
of 'agenda' in every programme where such a thing is even remotely possible.

The other morning the presenter on Today called Trump a racist,
narcissistic thug. Fair comment you might or might not think but there
is never any balancing criticism of Mrs Clinton.


Bill

On 30/10/16 21:02, Bill Wright wrote:
4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the
radio as I worked.

I caught the end of Open Book, but then at 4.30 it was Africa's Digital
Poets. This was essentially a sermon about white oppression in S Africa.
It's odd how often it happens that when you put Radio Four on it's
something like this. Sort of virtuous, concerned with race, and very
boring.

I endured it for the sake of what might be on next. This turned out to
be a programme concerned with foreign domestic workers in the UK. On
several occasions the commentary attacked Teresa May. It was an
interesting programme but the repeated comments about Mrs May were
unneccessary.

Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This programme
told us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour Party
activities, and contained a vicious attack on Margaret Thatcher.

You know, I just get so sick and tired of the relentless chipping away
with this leftist stuff. It wouldn't matter if they had a neutral
programme on reasonably often, but they don't. There's always some sort
of 'agenda' in every programme where such a thing is even remotely
possible.

The other morning the presenter on Today called Trump a racist,
narcissistic thug. Fair comment you might or might not think but there
is never any balancing criticism of Mrs Clinton.


Bill

But Mrs Clinton _isn't_ a racist, narcissistic, thug.
TW

On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:11:56 +0000, TimW wrote:

On 30/10/16 21:02, Bill Wright wrote:
4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the
radio as I worked.

I caught the end of Open Book, but then at 4.30 it was Africa's Digital
Poets. This was essentially a sermon about white oppression in S
Africa.
It's odd how often it happens that when you put Radio Four on it's
something like this. Sort of virtuous, concerned with race, and very
boring.

I endured it for the sake of what might be on next. This turned out to
be a programme concerned with foreign domestic workers in the UK. On
several occasions the commentary attacked Teresa May. It was an
interesting programme but the repeated comments about Mrs May were
unneccessary.

Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This programme
told us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour Party
activities, and contained a vicious attack on Margaret Thatcher.

You know, I just get so sick and tired of the relentless chipping away
with this leftist stuff. It wouldn't matter if they had a neutral
programme on reasonably often, but they don't. There's always some sort
of 'agenda' in every programme where such a thing is even remotely
possible.

The other morning the presenter on Today called Trump a racist,
narcissistic thug. Fair comment you might or might not think but there
is never any balancing criticism of Mrs Clinton.


Bill

But Mrs Clinton _isn't_ a racist, narcissistic, thug.
TW


That's ok, you can go ahead anyway and post that she is and she won't sue
you after the election.

Alycidon wrote:
On Sun, 30 Oct 2016 21:11:56 +0000, TimW wrote:

On 30/10/16 21:02, Bill Wright wrote:
4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the
radio as I worked.

I caught the end of Open Book, but then at 4.30 it was Africa's
Digital Poets. This was essentially a sermon about white oppression
in S Africa.
It's odd how often it happens that when you put Radio Four on it's
something like this. Sort of virtuous, concerned with race, and very
boring.

I endured it for the sake of what might be on next. This turned out
to be a programme concerned with foreign domestic workers in the
UK. On several occasions the commentary attacked Teresa May. It was
an interesting programme but the repeated comments about Mrs May
were unneccessary.

Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This
programme told us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour
Party activities, and contained a vicious attack on Margaret
Thatcher.

You know, I just get so sick and tired of the relentless chipping
away with this leftist stuff. It wouldn't matter if they had a
neutral programme on reasonably often, but they don't. There's
always some sort of 'agenda' in every programme where such a thing
is even remotely possible.

The other morning the presenter on Today called Trump a racist,
narcissistic thug. Fair comment you might or might not think but
there is never any balancing criticism of Mrs Clinton.


Bill

But Mrs Clinton _isn't_ a racist, narcissistic, thug.
TW

Ignore the troll/forger below.


That's ok, you can go ahead anyway and post that she is and she won't
sue you after the election.

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On 30/10/16 21:11, TimW wrote:
On 30/10/16 21:02, Bill Wright wrote:
4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the
radio as I worked.

I caught the end of Open Book, but then at 4.30 it was Africa's Digital
Poets. This was essentially a sermon about white oppression in S Africa.
It's odd how often it happens that when you put Radio Four on it's
something like this. Sort of virtuous, concerned with race, and very
boring.

I endured it for the sake of what might be on next. This turned out to
be a programme concerned with foreign domestic workers in the UK. On
several occasions the commentary attacked Teresa May. It was an
interesting programme but the repeated comments about Mrs May were
unneccessary.

Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This programme
told us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour Party
activities, and contained a vicious attack on Margaret Thatcher.

You know, I just get so sick and tired of the relentless chipping away
with this leftist stuff. It wouldn't matter if they had a neutral
programme on reasonably often, but they don't. There's always some sort
of 'agenda' in every programme where such a thing is even remotely
possible.

The other morning the presenter on Today called Trump a racist,
narcissistic thug. Fair comment you might or might not think but there
is never any balancing criticism of Mrs Clinton.


Bill

But Mrs Clinton _isn't_ a racist, narcissistic, thug.

She is though.

TW


--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

On Sunday, 30 October 2016 21:02:36 UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the
radio as I worked.

Try this instead - the fastest growing station the the world.

http://radiomiamigointernational.com...sh/listen.html

Often though if you go into listening to these things with a bias yourself,
you can normally find one
I have a friend who can spot bias in the opposite direction to yours.
People are always going to have some form of bias, its who we are and really
often its very hard to squeeze out of existence, since depending on who are
involved and who are making the programme, they don't actually see any bias
themselves. I do have to say though that often its easy to blame things on a
monolithic party or leader than it is to just analyse the facts and see
where the problems are.
Pigeon holing is alive and well.

You see it in the group people put me into 'the blind'
No we are really not 'The Blind we are people with poor to no sight
either born that way or acquired over the years and no amount of looking at
our often normal looking eyes will get them any closer to see as we do and
we all see differently. People just leap to a conclusion and use the same
paint for all things similar.
Bias is a fact of life.
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the radio
as I worked.

I caught the end of Open Book, but then at 4.30 it was Africa's Digital
Poets. This was essentially a sermon about white oppression in S Africa.
It's odd how often it happens that when you put Radio Four on it's
something like this. Sort of virtuous, concerned with race, and very
boring.

I endured it for the sake of what might be on next. This turned out to be
a programme concerned with foreign domestic workers in the UK. On several
occasions the commentary attacked Teresa May. It was an interesting
programme but the repeated comments about Mrs May were unneccessary.

Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This programme told
us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour Party activities, and
contained a vicious attack on Margaret Thatcher.

You know, I just get so sick and tired of the relentless chipping away
with this leftist stuff. It wouldn't matter if they had a neutral
programme on reasonably often, but they don't. There's always some sort of
'agenda' in every programme where such a thing is even remotely possible.

The other morning the presenter on Today called Trump a racist,
narcissistic thug. Fair comment you might or might not think but there is
never any balancing criticism of Mrs Clinton.


Bill

On 31/10/16 07:57, Brian Gaff wrote:
Bias is a fact of life.

NO, Brian, but prejudice is.

And there is a very good reason.

Data storage. The human mind cannot store and process all the data it
has access to, and a huge part of what it does is compress enormous
amounts of data into 'filters' that have names.

'blind' is such a filter. 'blind' is a quick'n'dirty category in which
to bung anyone with pretty impaired vision. For most purposes its good
enough. Of course you as a 'blind' person with a particular form of
visual impairment will protest that this is a very blunt instrument
indeed, however the rest of the world to a large extent doesn't have
time for '50 kinds of snow'. It's snow, that's all.

That is prejudice, that is necessary. Bias is not necessary. Bias
happens when people deliberately ignore the fact of their own prejudice
by refusing to admit there is another side, or that their categories are
in any need of refinement..



--
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

In article , Bill Wright
scribeth thus
4.25pm and I was on my own, so it was a good chance to listen to the
radio as I worked.

I caught the end of Open Book, but then at 4.30 it was Africa's Digital
Poets. This was essentially a sermon about white oppression in S Africa.
It's odd how often it happens that when you put Radio Four on it's
something like this. Sort of virtuous, concerned with race, and very boring.

I endured it for the sake of what might be on next. This turned out to
be a programme concerned with foreign domestic workers in the UK. On
several occasions the commentary attacked Teresa May. It was an
interesting programme but the repeated comments about Mrs May were
unneccessary.

Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This programme
told us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour Party
activities, and contained a vicious attack on Margaret Thatcher.

You know, I just get so sick and tired of the relentless chipping away
with this leftist stuff. It wouldn't matter if they had a neutral
programme on reasonably often, but they don't. There's always some sort
of 'agenda' in every programme where such a thing is even remotely possible.

The other morning the presenter on Today called Trump a racist,
narcissistic thug. Fair comment you might or might not think but there
is never any balancing criticism of Mrs Clinton.


Bill

Try Radio 3 then Bill....
--
Tony Sayer

In message ,
Simon Mason writes
Try this instead - the fastest growing station the the world.

http://radiomiamigointernational.com...sh/listen.html

If you want to listen to a machine playing heavily overcompressed
uninspiring "music", by the trade aka "product".
--
Bill

On 31/10/2016 09:53, Bill wrote:
In message ,
Simon Mason writes
Try this instead - the fastest growing station the the world.

http://radiomiamigointernational.com...sh/listen.html

If you want to listen to a machine playing heavily overcompressed
uninspiring "music", by the trade aka "product".

The sound went up and down and agree that it was poor quality anyway.

In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Next was 'Profile' and the subject was Glenda Jackson. This programme
told us what a splendid person Glenda was for her Labour Party
activities, and contained a vicious attack on Margaret Thatcher.

Delighted to see you giving an example of the lack of bias on the BBC.
Given how full it is of vicious attacks on Blair.

--
*Never slap a man who's chewing tobacco *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Brian Gaff wrote:
Often though if you go into listening to these things with a bias
yourself, you can normally find one
I have a friend who can spot bias in the opposite direction to yours.

But does he find the need to post to a DIY group about it?

--
*You are validating my inherent mistrust of strangers

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
Bill wrote:
In message ,
Simon Mason writes
Try this instead - the fastest growing station the the world.

http://radiomiamigointernational.com...sh/listen.html

If you want to listen to a machine playing heavily overcompressed
uninspiring "music", by the trade aka "product".

Given the rant was about R4, would music prog be a suitable alternative?

--
*After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.