I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18 metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

ss Wrote in message:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18 metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.


No idea nor who could imagine enough to say...
Suggest you get another couple of quotes?
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On 21/09/2016 21:08, ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18 metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

Last time I looked (which was some time ago to be fair), dry verge and
ridge kits were fairly pricey. So that sounds like a decent price.


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On 21/09/2016 23:21, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/09/2016 21:08, ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18 metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

Last time I looked (which was some time ago to be fair), dry verge and
ridge kits were fairly pricey. So that sounds like a decent price.


Have since googled.

Difficult to work out the cost of materials as there is so many
variables but I reckon around £265 thats without a trade discount.

I doubt if they will spend more than 3 hours if that on the job.

On 21/09/2016 23:45, ss wrote:
On 21/09/2016 23:21, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/09/2016 21:08, ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18 metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

Last time I looked (which was some time ago to be fair), dry verge and
ridge kits were fairly pricey. So that sounds like a decent price.


Have since googled.

Difficult to work out the cost of materials as there is so many
variables but I reckon around £265 thats without a trade discount.

I doubt if they will spend more than 3 hours if that on the job.

If the verge can be fitted over whatever is already there, then its
reasonably quick once you have access (although slow if you have to do
it from a ladder). The felt drip can be a PITA to do well though, since
it can mean lifting the first row of tiles (which might be nailed on)
and at least the first roof batten to get it under the existing felt
etc. (unless they have some form of repair kit that's designed to just
slot in under the edge of the tiles.


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On 21/09/2016 20:08, ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18 metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

That price may include to cost of scaffolding as well.

On 22/09/2016 11:03, BobH wrote:
On 21/09/2016 20:08, ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18 metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

That price may include to cost of scaffolding as well.

That seems a bit optimistic! That price might *be* the price of just the
scaffolding.

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ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18
metres)
Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

They won't be doing at that price, the dri-verge are a couple of quid each,
plus vat and you'll need about 60 of them and they'll take two men a full
day using ladders.

The drippers you are talking about are called eaves protectors and they
come in 1.5m lengths and you'll need at least twelve of these, last time i
looked they were about 2.5 quid plus vat. Putting these up requires
scaffolding, unless it's a bungalow as the bottom two rows of tiles need
removing, the last batten before the fascia needs to come off and the felt
folded back, these are then put in place onto the bare joists and the felt,
batten and tiles are relaid over the top.

So excluding any screws, nails or other fixings, and obviously excluding
scaffold, the stuff for the job is going to cost well over £200...somehow i
don't think you'll get labour down to eighty quid.

my guess is that they have only priced for one or the other, either the
eaves protectors or the dry verge, but not both.

On 22/09/2016 20:02, Phil L wrote:
So excluding any screws, nails or other fixings, and obviously excluding
scaffold, the stuff for the job is going to cost well over £200...somehow i
don't think you'll get labour down to eighty quid.

my guess is that they have only priced for one or the other, either the
eaves protectors or the dry verge, but not both.

Update:

As it turned out the final cost was £450, when he quoted he only
included the eave that was disintegrating, apparently he charges £200
per eave + dry verge so should have been in the region of £500 however I
got him down to £450 in the end.

He just used ladders plus some access from the roof and took approx 3.5
hours.
We did discuss the issue of scaffolding and he reckoned on £1200 minimum
if scaffolding were used but as far as he is concerned scaffolding is a
last resort hence he gets a lot of business as it keeps his prices lower.

Being selfish I am happy if they feel comfortable to use ladders if it
keeps my price down as I now live off savings and pensions. 18 months
back I was quoted £500 just for the dry verge from another company.

ss wrote:
On 22/09/2016 20:02, Phil L wrote:
So excluding any screws, nails or other fixings, and obviously
excluding scaffold, the stuff for the job is going to cost well over
£200...somehow i don't think you'll get labour down to eighty quid.

my guess is that they have only priced for one or the other, either
the eaves protectors or the dry verge, but not both.

Update:

As it turned out the final cost was £450, when he quoted he only
included the eave that was disintegrating, apparently he charges £200
per eave + dry verge so should have been in the region of £500
however I got him down to £450 in the end.

He just used ladders plus some access from the roof and took approx
3.5 hours.
We did discuss the issue of scaffolding and he reckoned on £1200
minimum if scaffolding were used but as far as he is concerned
scaffolding is a last resort hence he gets a lot of business as it
keeps his prices lower.
Being selfish I am happy if they feel comfortable to use ladders if it
keeps my price down as I now live off savings and pensions. 18 months
back I was quoted £500 just for the dry verge from another company.

He's not done too bad then if he's got parts of it from the roof. I've
installed dry verge myself from the roof of a three storey building - it was
scaffolded front and back but not at the sides, it was a bit hairy leaning
over the edge but i got it all done in the day easily enough, that said,
there were 23 up each side plus the top '50p' shaped shenanigans.
On a property with easier access, bungalow or, as in your case, (probably?)
access from a side building like garage or extension saves hours of farting
around up and down ladders.
Also, if this kind of thing is all he does, he'll be well geared up for it,
it's the kind of thing i get asked to do maybe 3 or 4 times in a year

There's lots of tradesmen use ladders, even today with all this H&S
hysteria...obviously not if there's a full roof to be done, but if it's a
half or one day job, 90% of people do it off a ladder, gutters, fascias,
small roofing repairs etc. Cavity wall insulation is less than half a day
and they all still work off ladders just like they did when I was doing it
16 years back. Scaffolding's great but it's overkill for the majority of
jobs.

In article ,
John Rumm writes:
If the verge can be fitted over whatever is already there, then its
reasonably quick once you have access (although slow if you have to do
it from a ladder). The felt drip can be a PITA to do well though, since
it can mean lifting the first row of tiles (which might be nailed on)
and at least the first roof batten to get it under the existing felt
etc. (unless they have some form of repair kit that's designed to just
slot in under the edge of the tiles.

For concrete interlocking roof tiles, the first batten will be far
enough up that you don't need to remove it.

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In article ,
"Phil L" writes:
He's not done too bad then if he's got parts of it from the roof. I've
installed dry verge myself from the roof of a three storey building - it was
scaffolded front and back but not at the sides, it was a bit hairy leaning
over the edge but i got it all done in the day easily enough, that said,
there were 23 up each side plus the top '50p' shaped shenanigans.
On a property with easier access, bungalow or, as in your case, (probably?)
access from a side building like garage or extension saves hours of farting
around up and down ladders.
Also, if this kind of thing is all he does, he'll be well geared up for it,
it's the kind of thing i get asked to do maybe 3 or 4 times in a year

There's lots of tradesmen use ladders, even today with all this H&S
hysteria...obviously not if there's a full roof to be done, but if it's a
half or one day job, 90% of people do it off a ladder, gutters, fascias,
small roofing repairs etc. Cavity wall insulation is less than half a day
and they all still work off ladders just like they did when I was doing it
16 years back. Scaffolding's great but it's overkill for the majority of
jobs.

From a DIYer's perspective - don't overlook using scaffolding.
It might enable you to do tasks like guttering, facias, felt support
trays, etc which you would otherwise consider out of your scope due
to accessibility. I've had scaffolding up to all sides of my house
over the years, which has enabled me to do all these activities
myself, which I really wouldn't like to do from the top of a ladder,
and even striping the roof back from a valley gutter, replacing the
felt, battens, and remaking the valley gutter edges.
I did do facia gutter servicing from a ladder before this, but the
scaffolding makes it so much easier.

Cost of scaffolding was around £300 per wall to get a lift
(working platform) at gutter level from which you can work on the
facias and climb onto the roof if necessary, and you have it there
for a month (although that can obviously be negotiated). Ask for
a pulley and rope too if you will have any heavy materials to take
up and down. A lift at intermediate level also enables easy access
to maintain walls and window frames (they will expect you to move
the planks to another lift, unless you explicitly ask them to fit
out more than one initially). I usually timed this to have the
scaffolding for a month encompassing the multiple bank holidays
around Easter, unless I wasn't also working at the time.

I had it right up to the chimney on one occation, enabling me to
repoint it, cap and vent the unused flues, remake the flaunching,
and fit radio and TV aerials. I also worked my way out along the
ridge, repointing the ridge tiles (admittedly, wearing a fall
arrest harness, as the scaffolding didn't cover the sides of the
roof at the same time).

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On 24/09/2016 08:48, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
If the verge can be fitted over whatever is already there, then its
reasonably quick once you have access (although slow if you have to do
it from a ladder). The felt drip can be a PITA to do well though, since
it can mean lifting the first row of tiles (which might be nailed on)
and at least the first roof batten to get it under the existing felt
etc. (unless they have some form of repair kit that's designed to just
slot in under the edge of the tiles.

For concrete interlocking roof tiles, the first batten will be far
enough up that you don't need to remove it.

Surprisingly considering all the places that have them, I don't think I
have ever done any work on a roof with interlocking tiles...


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On 22/09/2016 09:52, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/09/2016 23:45, ss wrote:
On 21/09/2016 23:21, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/09/2016 21:08, ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18
metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

Last time I looked (which was some time ago to be fair), dry verge and
ridge kits were fairly pricey. So that sounds like a decent price.


Have since googled.

Difficult to work out the cost of materials as there is so many
variables but I reckon around £265 thats without a trade discount.

I doubt if they will spend more than 3 hours if that on the job.

If the verge can be fitted over whatever is already there, then its
reasonably quick once you have access (although slow if you have to do
it from a ladder). The felt drip can be a PITA to do well though, since
it can mean lifting the first row of tiles (which might be nailed on)
and at least the first roof batten to get it under the existing felt
etc. (unless they have some form of repair kit that's designed to just
slot in under the edge of the tiles.




Then they may find rotted timbers to be replaced.

On 9/25/2016 7:58 PM, critcher wrote:
On 22/09/2016 09:52, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/09/2016 23:45, ss wrote:
On 21/09/2016 23:21, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/09/2016 21:08, ss wrote:
I have had a quote to do the following:
install plastic Dry verg caps on the 2 x gable ends, each end say 40
feet (12 meters) Total 24 metres.
Drip felt for overhang in to guttering. Approx total 60 feet (18
metres)

Been quoted £300. Good price or not?
Anything to look out for if/when they do the work.

Last time I looked (which was some time ago to be fair), dry verge and
ridge kits were fairly pricey. So that sounds like a decent price.


Have since googled.

Difficult to work out the cost of materials as there is so many
variables but I reckon around £265 thats without a trade discount.

I doubt if they will spend more than 3 hours if that on the job.

If the verge can be fitted over whatever is already there, then its
reasonably quick once you have access (although slow if you have to do
it from a ladder). The felt drip can be a PITA to do well though, since
it can mean lifting the first row of tiles (which might be nailed on)
and at least the first roof batten to get it under the existing felt
etc. (unless they have some form of repair kit that's designed to just
slot in under the edge of the tiles.




Then they may find rotted timbers to be replaced.

They may *find* rotten timbers but probably won't be replacing them at
that price! (Time rather than material cost).

On 9/24/2016 9:17 AM, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
"Phil L" writes:
He's not done too bad then if he's got parts of it from the roof. I've
installed dry verge myself from the roof of a three storey building - it was
scaffolded front and back but not at the sides, it was a bit hairy leaning
over the edge but i got it all done in the day easily enough, that said,
there were 23 up each side plus the top '50p' shaped shenanigans.
On a property with easier access, bungalow or, as in your case, (probably?)
access from a side building like garage or extension saves hours of farting
around up and down ladders.
Also, if this kind of thing is all he does, he'll be well geared up for it,
it's the kind of thing i get asked to do maybe 3 or 4 times in a year

There's lots of tradesmen use ladders, even today with all this H&S
hysteria...obviously not if there's a full roof to be done, but if it's a
half or one day job, 90% of people do it off a ladder, gutters, fascias,
small roofing repairs etc. Cavity wall insulation is less than half a day
and they all still work off ladders just like they did when I was doing it
16 years back. Scaffolding's great but it's overkill for the majority of
jobs.

From a DIYer's perspective - don't overlook using scaffolding.
It might enable you to do tasks like guttering, facias, felt support
trays, etc which you would otherwise consider out of your scope due
to accessibility. I've had scaffolding up to all sides of my house
over the years, which has enabled me to do all these activities
myself, which I really wouldn't like to do from the top of a ladder,
and even striping the roof back from a valley gutter, replacing the
felt, battens, and remaking the valley gutter edges.
I did do facia gutter servicing from a ladder before this, but the
scaffolding makes it so much easier.

Cost of scaffolding was around £300 per wall to get a lift
(working platform) at gutter level from which you can work on the
facias and climb onto the roof if necessary, and you have it there
for a month (although that can obviously be negotiated). Ask for
a pulley and rope too if you will have any heavy materials to take
up and down. A lift at intermediate level also enables easy access
to maintain walls and window frames (they will expect you to move
the planks to another lift, unless you explicitly ask them to fit
out more than one initially). I usually timed this to have the
scaffolding for a month encompassing the multiple bank holidays
around Easter, unless I wasn't also working at the time.

I had it right up to the chimney on one occation, enabling me to
repoint it, cap and vent the unused flues, remake the flaunching,
and fit radio and TV aerials. I also worked my way out along the
ridge, repointing the ridge tiles (admittedly, wearing a fall
arrest harness, as the scaffolding didn't cover the sides of the
roof at the same time).

I bought a second hand alloy commercial tower for about £600, this has
easily repaid the investment (and my neighbours use it too).