Stud Wall for Shed - Bracing and Spacing
 

So I'm building a timber framed and metal sheet cladded garden shed. It will be approx 6m x 3m x 2.5m, constructed from 4 x 2s and bolted down onto a concrete pad. The cladding sheets are just under a metre in width.

Question - How closely should I space the studs? Should the studs coincide with the edges of the metal cladding so that the vertical edges of the cladding can be screwed to them rather than just screwing adjacent sheets together with short screws? Would 1 metre be too far apart to space the studs?

Do I need to brace the stud walls or would the metal sheets provide sufficient bracing to stiffen everything up?

Edit: The cladding manufacturer suggests that aligning studs with overlaps of adjacent sheets is unnecessary and stitcher screws will do the job ok.

If I add noggings which would be staggered up and down along the wall, what's the best way of locating these noggings when I'm fixing the sheets so I can screw and not miss. Is it better to measure up from the bottom plate and mark a line, or use a square from the edge of the sheet and mark a line on it?

Stud Wall for Shed - Bracing and Spacing
 

On 06/09/16 14:35, Eugbug wrote:
So I'm building a timber framed and metal sheet cladded garden shed. It
will be approx 6m x 3m x 2.5m, constructed from 4 x 2s and bolted down
onto a concrete pad. The cladding sheets are just under a metre in
width.

Question - How closely should I space the studs? Should the studs
coincide with the edges of the metal cladding so that the vertical edges
of the cladding can be screwed to them rather than just screwing
adjacent sheets together with short screws?

I would get the joins on the studding - you know it's going to be better.

Would 1 metre be too far
apart to space the studs?

Do I need to brace the stud walls or would the metal sheets provide
sufficient bracing to stiffen everything up?

Stud Wall for Shed - Bracing and Spacing
 

On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 15:17:06 UTC+1, Eugbug wrote:
So I'm building a timber framed and metal sheet cladded garden shed. It
will be approx 6m x 3m x 2.5m, constructed from 4 x 2s and bolted down
onto a concrete pad. The cladding sheets are just under a metre in
width.

Question - How closely should I space the studs? Should the studs
coincide with the edges of the metal cladding so that the vertical edges
of the cladding can be screwed to them rather than just screwing
adjacent sheets together with short screws? Would 1 metre be too far
apart to space the studs?

Do I need to brace the stud walls or would the metal sheets provide
sufficient bracing to stiffen everything up?




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Eugbug

The metal's long axis should be at right angles to the studs.
The long axis is normally vertical so your studa want to be horizontal.
So it's not like a timber shed.
Google:-
images sheet metal cladding structural drawings.
Basically similar structures for steel and timber frame buildings.

Stud Wall for Shed - Bracing and Spacing
 

On Tuesday, 6 September 2016 15:17:06 UTC+1, Eugbug wrote:

So I'm building a timber framed and metal sheet cladded garden shed. It
will be approx 6m x 3m x 2.5m, constructed from 4 x 2s and bolted down
onto a concrete pad. The cladding sheets are just under a metre in
width.

Question - How closely should I space the studs?

How long is a piece of string? I've seen shed of 1x1 and 2x4 and more. Your call.

Should the studs
coincide with the edges of the metal cladding so that the vertical edges
of the cladding can be screwed to them rather than just screwing
adjacent sheets together with short screws?

Joins should be into studs, otherwise you've got no rigidity to the walls.

Would 1 metre be too far
apart to space the studs?

no

Do I need to brace the stud walls or would the metal sheets provide
sufficient bracing to stiffen everything up?

The sheets will rust away eventually. Best if the building doesn't collapse or half collapse as a result. Bracing is the perfect use for junk anyway.


NT

Stud Wall for Shed - Bracing and Spacing
 

On 06/09/2016 14:35, Eugbug wrote:
So I'm building a timber framed and metal sheet cladded garden shed. It
will be approx 6m x 3m x 2.5m, constructed from 4 x 2s and bolted down
onto a concrete pad. The cladding sheets are just under a metre in
width.

Question - How closely should I space the studs?

Sounds like something close to 450mm would be good - basically both
edges and centre of the cladding sheet.

Should the studs
coincide with the edges of the metal cladding so that the vertical edges
of the cladding can be screwed to them rather than just screwing
adjacent sheets together with short screws?

Yes definitely, much stronger and easier when all the edges fall on a
stud or nogging.

Would 1 metre be too far
apart to space the studs?

Depends on how stiff the cladding is, but probably...

(although to be fair, most commercial shed have skimpy studs, thin
cladding, and way to wide spacing, and yet they seem to stand up ok!)

Do I need to brace the stud walls or would the metal sheets provide
sufficient bracing to stiffen everything up?

Generally no, unless you need the frame to resist racking before you get
the cladding on (say of you need to climb about on the roof first etc).
Then you could always slap a temporary diagonal plank on for that if
needs be. Once the cladding is on, it will hold it all ridged.



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Cheers,

John.

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Stud Wall for Shed - Bracing and Spacing
 

On Tue, 06 Sep 2016 14:35:01 +0100, Eugbug
wrote:


So I'm building a timber framed and metal sheet cladded garden shed. It
will be approx 6m x 3m x 2.5m, constructed from 4 x 2s and bolted down
onto a concrete pad. The cladding sheets are just under a metre in
width.

Question - How closely should I space the studs? Should the studs
coincide with the edges of the metal cladding so that the vertical edges
of the cladding can be screwed to them rather than just screwing
adjacent sheets together with short screws? Would 1 metre be too far
apart to space the studs?

Do I need to brace the stud walls or would the metal sheets provide
sufficient bracing to stiffen everything up?



6m x 3m is quite big for a shed. I would be looking to use studs at
certainly no more than 600mm centres and possibly down to 400mm depending
on how exposed the building is (to weather / wind). You could consider
counter-battening for fixing the cladding.

Regarding overall stability, you really ought to be sheathing the wall
construction with structural OSB or plywood. Too many / large openings in
any of the elevations will give you a weak structure even with sheathing.

What form is the roof? Is it flat or pitched? And, if it's pitched are
you planning on a flat or vaulted ceiling?

For such a big building, you really ought to consult a structural engineer
otherwise you could be heading towards disaster!