I had a lovely time at the Electromagnetic Field Camp this weekend. Lots
of interesting stuff going on.

I haven't camped before, but I coped okay with some cheap gear from
Tesco. The quality of survival was high, except for one thing - the
loos. There must be a better way, and I invite the combined genius of
this NG to devise something.

The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being sprinkled.

There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

GB wrote:
I had a lovely time at the Electromagnetic Field Camp this weekend.
Lots of interesting stuff going on.

I haven't camped before, but I coped okay with some cheap gear from
Tesco. The quality of survival was high, except for one thing - the
loos. There must be a better way, and I invite the combined genius of
this NG to devise something.

The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which
apparently beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were
really rank. Even if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of
earth being
sprinkled.
There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

****'s gonna stink unless it's underwater or covered in earth, so what you
need is somewhere whereby water is poured over the dung, obviously having
buckets of this is no good, so some kind of tank, operated by a lever system
that allows a balanced amount of water each time it's operated. It will need
housing in something so that you don't have an audience while you're curling
one off - there's nothing worse than crapping to shouts of 'Ole!' at every
splash, plastic's fairly cheap so probably best to use that...can you see
where I'm going with this?

In article , Phil L
wrote:
GB wrote:
I had a lovely time at the Electromagnetic Field Camp this weekend.
Lots of interesting stuff going on.

I haven't camped before, but I coped okay with some cheap gear from
Tesco. The quality of survival was high, except for one thing - the
loos. There must be a better way, and I invite the combined genius of
this NG to devise something.

The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being
sprinkled. There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

****'s gonna stink unless it's underwater or covered in earth, so what
you need is somewhere whereby water is poured over the dung, obviously
having buckets of this is no good, so some kind of tank, operated by a
lever system that allows a balanced amount of water each time it's
operated. It will need housing in something so that you don't have an
audience while you're curling one off - there's nothing worse than
crapping to shouts of 'Ole!' at every splash, plastic's fairly cheap so
probably best to use that...can you see where I'm going with this?


didn't Thomas Crapper come up with something to solve this problem?

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On Monday, 8 August 2016 18:56:26 UTC+1, GB wrote:
The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being sprinkled.
There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Some technique for automatically sprinking earth is required. Perhaps mount the cubicles radially around a pole set into the centre of the drop hole and have it rotate (like a rotating summerhouse or the Post Office Tower Restaurant). Have alternate segments of the assembly housing earth reservoirs with a sprinkling mechanism. Have the whole assembly rotate very slowly possibly powered by a wind turbine on the top, so that as someone sits in the cubicle and does the business it's continually covered with earth and the cubicle is continuously moving onto a freshly sprinkled zone.

And, of course, ban smoking.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...s/bvAHXCm_oo4J

Owain

On 08-Aug-16 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 18:56:26 UTC+1, GB wrote:
The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being sprinkled.
There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Some technique for automatically sprinking earth is required. Perhaps mount the cubicles radially around a pole set into the centre of the drop hole and have it rotate (like a rotating summerhouse or the Post Office Tower Restaurant). Have alternate segments of the assembly housing earth reservoirs with a sprinkling mechanism. Have the whole assembly rotate very slowly possibly powered by a wind turbine on the top, so that as someone sits in the cubicle and does the business it's continually covered with earth and the cubicle is continuously moving onto a freshly sprinkled zone.

And, of course, ban smoking.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...s/bvAHXCm_oo4J

That is such a great story (even allowing for poetic licence).

"Both casualties and spectators were liberally
covered with the contents of the pit as pockets of gas within the
morass ignited."





Owain

On 08/08/2016 19:22, Tim Streater wrote:


I thought that there had been devised, for use in 3rd world countries
far from any town, a type of long drop earth toilet with *ventilation*,
so that air is drawn downwards into the hole and out into a ventilation
pipe, kind of like we all have on our houses. The top of said pipe
being 12ft in the air or so, it gets hot and draws air up through it.


+1

I don't know about 3rd world but I've used ventilated composting toilets
in US National Parks and they work. But I'd guess they'd be a bit
expensive for a low-budget, temporary camp unless DIY'd. (FTOAD doesn't
prevent stench if people pee or **** on the floor of the bog but even Mr
Crapper didn't solve that problem. I've no idea if Messrs Colt, Smith &
Wesson did.)

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Robin

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:12:26 +0100, GB wrote:

On 08-Aug-16 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 18:56:26 UTC+1, GB wrote:
The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which
apparently beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were
really rank. Even if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of
earth being sprinkled.
There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Some technique for automatically sprinking earth is required. Perhaps
mount the cubicles radially around a pole set into the centre of the
drop hole and have it rotate (like a rotating summerhouse or the Post
Office Tower Restaurant). Have alternate segments of the assembly
housing earth reservoirs with a sprinkling mechanism. Have the whole
assembly rotate very slowly possibly powered by a wind turbine on the
top, so that as someone sits in the cubicle and does the business it's
continually covered with earth and the cubicle is continuously moving
onto a freshly sprinkled zone.

And, of course, ban smoking.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...y/5Num8dvqU3s/
bvAHXCm_oo4J

That is such a great story (even allowing for poetic licence).

"Both casualties and spectators were liberally covered with the contents
of the pit as pockets of gas within the morass ignited."

That sounds like a Peter Parry story.

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In article , GB wrote:
I had a lovely time at the Electromagnetic Field Camp this weekend. Lots
of interesting stuff going on.

I wanted to go, but for various reasons, couldn't..

I haven't camped before, but I coped okay with some cheap gear from
Tesco. The quality of survival was high, except for one thing - the
loos. There must be a better way, and I invite the combined genius of
this NG to devise something.

The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being sprinkled.

There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

We have a composting loo in our garden (which is a distance from the
house, hence ...) The secret is to make sure there is a functioning urine
separator and that everyone knows how to use it. ie. chaps, unless your
aim is spot-on, then you sit-down to make sure pee goes unto the plastic
funnel thing at the front. (Which goes outside into a 22l container in our
case which I empty when needed)

The other trick is to pre-load the **** tub with a jug of nappysan...

For the crap, a handful of wood shavings at the end of the day is all
that's needed.

However I was at a festival last summer that used portable composting
loos (ie. big collection tub at ground level with the loo up a flight
of steps) and it was a bit rank - mostly because of the urine not going
into the right place. I suspect managing your own on an infrequent use
basis is a world different from catering for the masses...

Gordon

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 21:03:16 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:

On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 20:12:26 +0100, GB wrote:

On 08-Aug-16 7:54 PM, wrote:
On Monday, 8 August 2016 18:56:26 UTC+1, GB wrote:
The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which
apparently beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were
really rank. Even if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack
of earth being sprinkled.
There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Some technique for automatically sprinking earth is required. Perhaps
mount the cubicles radially around a pole set into the centre of the
drop hole and have it rotate (like a rotating summerhouse or the Post
Office Tower Restaurant). Have alternate segments of the assembly
housing earth reservoirs with a sprinkling mechanism. Have the whole
assembly rotate very slowly possibly powered by a wind turbine on the
top, so that as someone sits in the cubicle and does the business it's
continually covered with earth and the cubicle is continuously moving
onto a freshly sprinkled zone.

And, of course, ban smoking.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...y/5Num8dvqU3s/
bvAHXCm_oo4J

That is such a great story (even allowing for poetic licence).

"Both casualties and spectators were liberally covered with the
contents of the pit as pockets of gas within the morass ignited."

That sounds like a Peter Parry story.

Oh. Sorry. I just scrolled down. It *is* a Peter Parry story.

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"GB" wrote in message
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I had a lovely time at the Electromagnetic Field Camp this weekend. Lots
of interesting stuff going on.

I haven't camped before, but I coped okay with some cheap gear from Tesco.
The quality of survival was high, except for one thing - the loos. There
must be a better way, and I invite the combined genius of this NG to
devise something.

The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even if
the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being sprinkled.

There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Some of our more remote camping sites have composting dunnys.

Work pretty well.

On 08/08/2016 22:06, Gordon Henderson wrote:
catering for the masses...

Not the sort of catering I would choose.

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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 22:28:45 +0100, polygonum
wrote:

On 08/08/2016 22:06, Gordon Henderson wrote:
catering for the masses...

Not the sort of catering I would choose.

weg

Cheers, T i m

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On Monday, 8 August 2016 18:56:26 UTC+1, GB wrote:
The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being
sprinkled.
There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Some technique for automatically sprinking earth is required.

Nope. What works is to move the air in thru the hole in the toilet
seat and out much higher where it can't be smelt and to dry what
ends up being dumped by the ****ers at the same time.

Perhaps mount the cubicles radially around a pole set into the centre
of the drop hole and have it rotate (like a rotating summerhouse or the
Post Office Tower Restaurant). Have alternate segments of the assembly
housing earth reservoirs with a sprinkling mechanism. Have the whole
assembly rotate very slowly possibly powered by a wind turbine on the
top, so that as someone sits in the cubicle and does the business it's
continually covered with earth and the cubicle is continuously moving
onto a freshly sprinkled zone.

No one does it that way.

And, of course, ban smoking.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...s/bvAHXCm_oo4J

On 08/08/2016 22:54, Huge wrote:
On 2016-08-08, Robin wrote:

I don't know about 3rd world but I've used ventilated composting toilets
in US National Parks and they work.

+1

The hut/cabin we visit in Norway has a wooden seat with a hole and a
pile of **** underneath. If it's very cold the pile can get quite tall
:-) Apparently in summer it can get a little pongy, but not too bad.

But presumably the load on them is quite a lot smaller than what a
festival generates - I'd guess by a couple of orders of magnitude at least.

On 08/08/2016 18:56, GB wrote:
I had a lovely time at the Electromagnetic Field Camp this weekend. Lots
of interesting stuff going on.

I haven't camped before, but I coped okay with some cheap gear from
Tesco. The quality of survival was high, except for one thing - the
loos. There must be a better way, and I invite the combined genius of
this NG to devise something.

The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being sprinkled.

There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Just rent a building site-type of toilet block. The ones that don't need
a main drain.
Bill

These tend to need emptying a lot and as they are often chemical you cannot
just tip it out any old place either.
I suppose the organisers would be responsible for getting this done enough
times during the event though.
Brian

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On 08/08/2016 18:56, GB wrote:
I had a lovely time at the Electromagnetic Field Camp this weekend. Lots
of interesting stuff going on.

I haven't camped before, but I coped okay with some cheap gear from
Tesco. The quality of survival was high, except for one thing - the
loos. There must be a better way, and I invite the combined genius of
this NG to devise something.

The festival used the long drop earth toilet approach, which apparently
beats portaloos by a large margin. However, they were really rank. Even
if the concept is okay, they suffered from a lack of earth being
sprinkled.

There must be something better, so come on you DIY geniuses!

Just rent a building site-type of toilet block. The ones that don't need a
main drain.
Bill