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[email protected] July 3rd 03 11:57 AM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 
Simon wrote:
Not quite the 2 metres I thought it was :-/
still ..... my common sense still screams out about the risk of someone
dropping an appliance into the sink, and I would always avoid putting a


What particular risk is there if an (electrical) appliance is dropped
into the sink?

It's a bit like the classic horror/crime film where the baddie
threatens to throw an electric fire into the bath - in my opinion the
thrower of the fire is much more likely to be electrocuted than
someone in the bath.

--
Chris Green )

Andrew McKay July 3rd 03 12:14 PM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 
On 3 Jul 2003 10:57:13 GMT, wrote:

What particular risk is there if an (electrical) appliance is dropped
into the sink?


I'm guessing.

Presumably the moist human body might be a better conductor than
direct water - we are after all referred to as "carbon life forms",
and as far as I can recall carbon is a good conductor.

To be perfectly honest I'm in no hurry to test this theory.

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Dave Plowman July 3rd 03 01:44 PM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 
In article ,
Andrew McKay wrote:
What particular risk is there if an (electrical) appliance is dropped
into the sink?


I'm guessing.


Presumably the moist human body might be a better conductor than
direct water - we are after all referred to as "carbon life forms",
and as far as I can recall carbon is a good conductor.


If the sink is metal and earthed, wouldn't the electricity take the
easiest route to earth?

To be perfectly honest I'm in no hurry to test this theory.


Absolutely. Mind you, I've often thought the idea of having a near
perfect earth in the shape of a metal sink near to anything electrical you
can touch at the same time slightly suspect. This is the *last* thing you
do with a workbench where electrical equipment is tested etc.

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RichardS July 3rd 03 03:26 PM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 
"Andrew McKay" wrote :

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Presumably the moist human body might be a better conductor than
direct water - we are after all referred to as "carbon life forms",
and as far as I can recall carbon is a good conductor.


snip

That's highly flawed reasoning....

Carbon may well be a conductor in it's elemental form, but not in the
majority of it's compounds.

Polythene, nylon, etc spring to mind.

We do conduct electricity, but certainly not for the reason that you
mention.


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[email protected] July 3rd 03 04:10 PM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 
Andrew McKay wrote:
On 3 Jul 2003 10:57:13 GMT, wrote:

What particular risk is there if an (electrical) appliance is dropped
into the sink?


I'm guessing.

Presumably the moist human body might be a better conductor than
direct water - we are after all referred to as "carbon life forms",
and as far as I can recall carbon is a good conductor.

?? It's not the carbon in our bodies that makes them (rather poorly)
conductive, it's the water. The addition of water to our skin just
makes better (electrical) contact between ourselves and whatever we're
touching.

But I *still* don't see how this relates to the danger of dropping an
electrical appliance in the sink. Unless you keep hold of it as it
drops in the water, and even then it doesn't seem to be a particularly
dangerous thing to do.

--
Chris Green )

Christian McArdle July 3rd 03 04:29 PM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 
But I *still* don't see how this relates to the danger of dropping an
electrical appliance in the sink. Unless you keep hold of it as it
drops in the water, and even then it doesn't seem to be a particularly
dangerous thing to do.


People should stop worrying about it. Just install an RCD and there won't be
a problem. It's unlikely to be a problem anyway. A quick jolt followed by
"duh, that was a stupid thing to do".

Christian.



Simon July 3rd 03 06:59 PM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 

"Christian McArdle" wrote in message
. net...
But I *still* don't see how this relates to the danger of dropping an
electrical appliance in the sink. Unless you keep hold of it as it
drops in the water, and even then it doesn't seem to be a particularly
dangerous thing to do.


People should stop worrying about it. Just install an RCD and there won't

be
a problem. It's unlikely to be a problem anyway. A quick jolt followed by
"duh, that was a stupid thing to do".

Christian.



Don't know about you, but the majority of homes i used to work in still had
replaceable wire type fuses. I am still not going to test the theory, OR
trust others who have passed before me's work with my health. As was stated
earlier in this thread, there is a question whether or not to bond sinks, I
wouldn't want to risk coming across the plumber who'd made the decision not
to bond and have the chance of having mains electricity deciding to earth
through my body, you are welcome to try though christian, but it would be a
stupid thing to do and anyone that doubts that is welcome to try ;-)



Simon July 3rd 03 06:59 PM

Wiring into a doenstairs toilet.
 

wrote in message
...
Simon wrote:
Not quite the 2 metres I thought it was :-/
still ..... my common sense still screams out about the risk of someone
dropping an appliance into the sink, and I would always avoid putting a


What particular risk is there if an (electrical) appliance is dropped
into the sink?

It's a bit like the classic horror/crime film where the baddie
threatens to throw an electric fire into the bath - in my opinion the
thrower of the fire is much more likely to be electrocuted than
someone in the bath.

--
Chris Green )


give it a go and let me know how it feels




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