Surestop valves and PRVs
Anyone used them and rate them?
http://www.surestop.co.uk/owners/ My parents have a holiday apartment and it's a requirement of the insurance co that the water is turned off when the place is unoccupied. Looks easier than shifting all the ****e in the kitchen cupboards to get to the stop tap everytime someone visits the place. There is also a PRV needed as the water presure is at 12 Bar. Any reason I cannot fit this before the water meter? It would make the job a lot easier if I fitted it before the meter. -- Adam |
Surestop valves and PRVs
On 13/06/2016 19:25, ARW wrote:
Anyone used them and rate them? http://www.surestop.co.uk/owners/ My parents have a holiday apartment and it's a requirement of the insurance co that the water is turned off when the place is unoccupied. Looks easier than shifting all the ****e in the kitchen cupboards to get to the stop tap everytime someone visits the place. There is also a PRV needed as the water presure is at 12 Bar. Any reason I cannot fit this before the water meter? It would make the job a lot easier if I fitted it before the meter. The sure stop valves work well, I fitted one for my dad a few years ago. There is no technical reason a PVR can't go before the meter however there may be legal reasons but I doubt if anyone will care. |
Surestop valves and PRVs
On 13/06/2016 20:25, dennis@home wrote:
There is no technical reason a PVR can't go before the meter however there may be legal reasons but I doubt if anyone will care. I can't see a problem if the meter is inside the property line and the PRV will be too. Ownership of the supply pipe there goes with the property. OTOH digging up the pavement to fit the PRV before the meter in the water company's communication pipe might well be problematical - especially if there's no apprentice to take the blame :) -- Robin reply-to address is (intended to be) valid |
Surestop valves and PRVs
"Robin" wrote in message
... On 13/06/2016 20:25, dennis@home wrote: There is no technical reason a PVR can't go before the meter however there may be legal reasons but I doubt if anyone will care. I can't see a problem if the meter is inside the property line and the PRV will be too. Ownership of the supply pipe there goes with the property. OTOH digging up the pavement to fit the PRV before the meter in the water company's communication pipe might well be problematical - especially if there's no apprentice to take the blame :) They have - for some unknown reason - two water meters, One "in the street" and one in the kitchen cupboard. There is only one water supply! Every now and again they get an odd bill for several thound pounds worth of water used when the wrong meter has been read. -- Adam |
Surestop valves and PRVs
ARW wrote:
"Robin" wrote in message ... On 13/06/2016 20:25, dennis@home wrote: There is no technical reason a PVR can't go before the meter however there may be legal reasons but I doubt if anyone will care. I can't see a problem if the meter is inside the property line and the PRV will be too. Ownership of the supply pipe there goes with the property. OTOH digging up the pavement to fit the PRV before the meter in the water company's communication pipe might well be problematical - especially if there's no apprentice to take the blame :) They have - for some unknown reason - two water meters, One "in the street" and one in the kitchen cupboard. There is only one water supply! Every now and again they get an odd bill for several thound pounds worth of water used when the wrong meter has been read. Whenever our water meter is read (in our bathroom), the drone never inspects anything, just reads the meter, compares it with the prediction from his hand held thingumyjig and if the deviation is too great he just enters the same number again. He is not even a waterboard employee but sports a Siemens logo. I dont think they would know what a prv is let alone recognise one. The only possible problem would be if the upstream prv caused a fault. |
Surestop valves and PRVs
On Monday, 13 June 2016 21:17:29 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
They have - for some unknown reason - two water meters, One "in the street" and one in the kitchen cupboard. There is only one water supply! Every now and again they get an odd bill for several thound pounds worth of water used when the wrong meter has been read. So take the one in the kitchen cupboard out, ebay it, and put the money towards the now-correct water bills. Owain |
Surestop valves and PRVs
On 13/06/16 19:25, ARW wrote:
Anyone used them and rate them? http://www.surestop.co.uk/owners/ My parents have a holiday apartment and it's a requirement of the insurance co that the water is turned off when the place is unoccupied. Looks easier than shifting all the ****e in the kitchen cupboards to get to the stop tap everytime someone visits the place. There is also a PRV needed as the water presure is at 12 Bar. Any reason I cannot fit this before the water meter? It would make the job a lot easier if I fitted it before the meter. 12 bar? Jeebus... Mine was 7.5 and that was excessive. Caleffi PRVs are extremely reliable IME (I have one): http://www.jtmplumbing.co.uk/heating...h-gauge-pp9578 No reason not to fit the PRV before the meter. |
Surestop valves and PRVs
On Monday, 13 June 2016 19:25:28 UTC+1, ARW wrote:
Anyone used them and rate them? http://www.surestop.co.uk/owners/ My parents have a holiday apartment and it's a requirement of the insurance co that the water is turned off when the place is unoccupied. Looks easier than shifting all the ****e in the kitchen cupboards to get to the stop tap everytime someone visits the place. There is also a PRV needed as the water presure is at 12 Bar. Any reason I cannot fit this before the water meter? It would make the job a lot easier if I fitted it before the meter. -- Adam The pipe within the property boundary is yours. Outside is theirs. Quite often the meter/stopcock is the joining point. You're not supposed to mess with their pipe. If the pressure is too high, complain, they might fix it for you for free. You could lie and say a flood has been caused by the high pressure. |
Surestop valves and PRVs
"harry" wrote in message
... On Monday, 13 June 2016 19:25:28 UTC+1, ARW wrote: Anyone used them and rate them? http://www.surestop.co.uk/owners/ My parents have a holiday apartment and it's a requirement of the insurance co that the water is turned off when the place is unoccupied. Looks easier than shifting all the ****e in the kitchen cupboards to get to the stop tap everytime someone visits the place. There is also a PRV needed as the water presure is at 12 Bar. Any reason I cannot fit this before the water meter? It would make the job a lot easier if I fitted it before the meter. -- Adam The pipe within the property boundary is yours. Outside is theirs. Quite often the meter/stopcock is the joining point. You're not supposed to mess with their pipe. If the pressure is too high, complain, they might fix it for you for free. You could lie and say a flood has been caused by the high pressure. I am sure that they would not fall for that! Main concerns are the combi and electric shower. -- Adam |
Surestop valves and PRVs
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... On Monday, 13 June 2016 21:17:29 UTC+1, ARW wrote: They have - for some unknown reason - two water meters, One "in the street" and one in the kitchen cupboard. There is only one water supply! Every now and again they get an odd bill for several thound pounds worth of water used when the wrong meter has been read. So take the one in the kitchen cupboard out, ebay it, and put the money towards the now-correct water bills. The one in the kitchen IS the correct meter! -- Adam |
Surestop valves and PRVs
ARW wrote:
wrote: ARW wrote: two water meters, One "in the street" and one in the kitchen cupboard. There is only one water supply! Every now and again they get an odd bill for several thound pounds worth of water used when the wrong meter has been read. So take the one in the kitchen cupboard out, ebay it, and put the money towards the now-correct water bills. The one in the kitchen IS the correct meter! Put a label on the one in the street saying "please read meter in house instead"? |
Surestop valves and PRVs
On 14/06/2016 19:03, ARW wrote:
wrote in message ... On Monday, 13 June 2016 21:17:29 UTC+1, ARW wrote: They have - for some unknown reason - two water meters, One "in the street" and one in the kitchen cupboard. There is only one water supply! Every now and again they get an odd bill for several thound pounds worth of water used when the wrong meter has been read. So take the one in the kitchen cupboard out, ebay it, and put the money towards the now-correct water bills. The one in the kitchen IS the correct meter! Paint/tape the wrong one? |
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