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https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

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On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:36:14 -0700, harry wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.



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En el artículo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Not just the PM.

http://gu.com/p/4jjyj/sbl

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On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:17:34 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:36:14 -0700, harry wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

That's called shooting yourself in the foot.
Or ****ting in your own bed.
As we say up North.

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https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 00:28:25 -0700, harry wrote:

On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:17:34 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:36:14 -0700, harry wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

That's called shooting yourself in the foot.
Or ****ting in your own bed.
As we say up North.

Different rules for 'foreigners', Harry? I suppose we should expect that
from you.



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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:20:34 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artÃ*culo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Not just the PM.

http://gu.com/p/4jjyj/sbl

Glad you posted that. My mother-in-law is all for Brexit (but can't be
arsed to register), because of all those 'migrants'. She also has a
nephew who lives in Orihuela Costa. She says "of course he won't have to
leave, he's English". A Harry mindset.

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In article ,
Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:20:34 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Not just the PM.

http://gu.com/p/4jjyj/sbl

Glad you posted that. My mother-in-law is all for Brexit (but can't be
arsed to register), because of all those 'migrants'. She also has a
nephew who lives in Orihuela Costa. She says "of course he won't have to
leave, he's English". A Harry mindset.

It is funny. The BEXIT lot think all of the EU are out to 'get' the UK,
but if we leave will suddenly behave like gentlemen towards us.

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On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:17:34 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:36:14 -0700, harry wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Our go there with money to spend and to retire.
Not as scroungers and for jobs.

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On 07/06/2016 14:25, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:17:34 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:36:14 -0700, harry wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Our go there with money to spend and to retire.
Not as scroungers and for jobs.


They go there because its cheaper and they still get free medical
treatment. Many are living on state pensions.

Once they are expelled and come back their health will deteriorate in
the British climate and the NHS will pay lots of cash looking after them.

They will also need housing in suitable accommodation so that will push
up housing costs. Selling their overseas homes won't help as there will
be nobody to buy them, so they will go cheap.

That means they will have no assets so they will be claiming pension
credits, housing benefits, etc. putting up taxes.

It is estimated that up to 2 million people will be in this boat.
So if they get the minimum pension credit and housing benefit that will
add up to £20 billion to taxes and they won't pay anywhere near that in tax.

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On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 13:31:56 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:20:34 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artÃ*culo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Not just the PM.

http://gu.com/p/4jjyj/sbl

Glad you posted that. My mother-in-law is all for Brexit (but can't be
arsed to register), because of all those 'migrants'. She also has a
nephew who lives in Orihuela Costa. She says "of course he won't have to
leave, he's English". A Harry mindset.

It is funny. The BEXIT lot think all of the EU are out to 'get' the UK,
but if we leave will suddenly behave like gentlemen towards us.

Not heard anyone say that.

What some are climing is that the EU won't buy UK products or will put a tariff on them.

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On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:54:59 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 14:25, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:17:34 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:36:14 -0700, harry wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Our go there with money to spend and to retire.
Not as scroungers and for jobs.


They go there because its cheaper and they still get free medical
treatment. Many are living on state pensions.

Once they are expelled and come back their health will deteriorate in
the British climate and the NHS will pay lots of cash looking after them.

It already does doesn;t it as Spain claims the money back.


They will also need housing in suitable accommodation so that will push
up housing costs.

Well most if they do leave spain will sell their place in spain.
They will not be like the romainan that was renting and now has no where to live and no money to buy or rent a property.


Selling their overseas homes won't help as there will
be nobody to buy them, so they will go cheap.

Really, there's plenty of people wanting to buy them.



That means they will have no assets so they will be claiming pension
credits, housing benefits, etc. putting up taxes.

rubbish.


It is estimated that up to 2 million people will be in this boat.

where does this estimate come from ?

So if they get the minimum pension credit and housing benefit that will
add up to £20 billion to taxes and they won't pay anywhere near that in tax.

So whatever happend the the claim that immigration is good for teh economy because they will be spending money in the UK and paying taxes.
If the ex-pats DO come back then they be spending money in the UK, unlike my spanish friend who has just brought a flat in barcelona and she is living her in London and has been for 22+ years, and has no plans as yet to return, but can;t afford a flat in most parts of the UK.

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dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
It is funny. The BEXIT lot think all of the EU are out to 'get' the UK,
but if we leave will suddenly behave like gentlemen towards us.

Not heard anyone say that.

You've not been paying attention, then. ;-)

What some are climing is that the EU won't buy UK products or will put a
tariff on them.

If we do leave, I'll bet a large sum of money that we'll end up signing a
trade agreement with the EU under worse terms than we have at present. We
simply can't exist without the EU in practice.

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In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
They will also need housing in suitable accommodation so that will
push up housing costs.

Well most if they do leave spain will sell their place in spain.

The housing market in Spain is nothing like the UK one. Most properties
there go down in value over the years - to be replaced with new.
Especially in the areas where UK expats tend to congregate.

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On 07/06/2016 15:55, whisky-dave wrote:

So if they get the minimum pension credit and housing benefit that
will add up to £20 billion to taxes and they won't pay anywhere
near that in tax.

So whatever happend the the claim that immigration is good for teh
economy because they will be spending money in the UK and paying
taxes. If the ex-pats DO come back then they be spending money in the
UK, unlike my spanish friend who has just brought a flat in barcelona
and she is living her in London and has been for 22+ years, and has
no plans as yet to return, but can;t afford a flat in most parts of
the UK.




You do understand the difference between someone earning cash and
spending and someone getting state cash spending?

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 16:00:28 +0100, Capitol wrote:

dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

They won't be expelled, but it will cost them too much to stay there.



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On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

When has the UK left the agreements with another country?
You can't possible compare what will happen if we leave with what
happens in other countries where nothing has happened.

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On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?


BTW at the moment they get free healthcare courtesy of the EU.
Once we leave why would that continue?
Once it goes the poorer expats would have no choice but to return and
get NHS treatment so they will return even if they aren't expelled.

The brexit lot just haven't thought anything through and just hope
everything will end better than it is.

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On 07/06/2016 18:52, Tim Streater wrote:
In article . com,
dennis@home wrote:

On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?


BTW at the moment they get free healthcare courtesy of the EU.

It's not courtesy of teh EU, it's courtesy of teh NHS.

Its the european health card.
the NHS only tops up some treatments.


Once we leave why would that continue?
Once it goes the poorer expats would have no choice but to return and
get NHS treatment so they will return even if they aren't expelled.

The brexit lot just haven't thought anything through and just hope
everything will end better than it is.

**** off Den.


Its you that wants to so why don't you!

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dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

When has the UK left the agreements with another country?
You can't possible compare what will happen if we leave with what
happens in other countries where nothing has happened.

Where is your positive case? Doesn't exist does it?

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dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?


BTW at the moment they get free healthcare courtesy of the EU.
Another Remain lie!

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On 07/06/2016 19:45, dennis@home wrote:

Its the european health card.

Wonder how long that will last if the pythons get their way?

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On 07/06/2016 21:20, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

When has the UK left the agreements with another country?
You can't possible compare what will happen if we leave with what
happens in other countries where nothing has happened.

Where is your positive case? Doesn't exist does it?

How can it exist when it has yet to happen?
Is this just another exitist attempt to muddy the water?

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On 07/06/2016 21:21, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?


BTW at the moment they get free healthcare courtesy of the EU.
Another Remain lie!

Why did you snip it to remove the reference to the european health card
that makes it true?
Are you scared of the truth?

You are like harry and TNP all sorts of bull about leaving and not one
thing to backup your claims.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 08:20:34 +0100, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , Bob Eager
escribió:

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Not just the PM.

http://gu.com/p/4jjyj/sbl

Glad you posted that. My mother-in-law is all for Brexit (but can't be
arsed to register), because of all those 'migrants'. She also has a
nephew who lives in Orihuela Costa. She says "of course he won't have to
leave, he's English". A Harry mindset.

It is funny. The BEXIT lot think all of the EU are out to 'get' the UK,

Yes.

but if we leave will suddenly behave like gentlemen towards us.

They've never said that, JUST that if the EU wants to play silly
buggers when Britain leaves, Britain can just make an obscene
gesture in the general direction of the EU and carry on regardless.

They're right about that. Even if the EU was actually stupid enough
to impose immense tariff and quota barriers against British exports
to the EU, not only would that be totally contrary to the WTO rules,
and so would be flushed where they belong in a heartbeat, Britain
could tell the EU that they wouldn't be getting any more Airbus
wings or aircraft engines from Britain and that it would have
immense tariff barriers and quotas on cars made in the EU and
that would see the krauts give Junker the bums rush in a heart beat.

While Airbus could certainly use US aircraft engines instead,
they couldn't replace the wings any time soon and that would
bring Airbus to its knees and so wouldn't be allowed to happen.
Airbus is in fact the only major manufacturing operation the EU
has left now apart from cars.

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dennis@home wrote
harry wrote
Bob Eager wrote
harry wrote

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Our go there with money to spend and to retire.
Not as scroungers and for jobs.

They go there because its cheaper

Yes. And the weather is much better too.

and they still get free medical treatment. Many are living on state
pensions.

Once they are expelled

That isnt going to happen, the economy of
Spain depends on them too much for that.

and come back their health will deteriorate in the British climate

Even sillier than you usually manage.

and the NHS will pay lots of cash looking after them.

They will also need housing in suitable accommodation

Not when they dont get expelled they won't.

so that will push up housing costs. Selling their overseas homes won't
help as there will be nobody to buy them, so they will go cheap.

That means they will have no assets so they will be claiming pension
credits, housing benefits, etc. putting up taxes.

Not when they dont get expelled.

It is estimated that up to 2 million people will be in this boat.

Only by fools on the expelled claim.

So if they get the minimum pension credit and housing benefit that will
add up to £20 billion to taxes and they won't pay anywhere near that in
tax.

Not when they dont get expelled.

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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

If we vote to leave, I would expect them to respect the democratic will
of the people. And negotiate in good faith. But perhaps I'm being
naive.

You are.

After all, Merkel, Juncker, and others have already said that
they will behave like ****s. Which, as others have said, makes it a
club I wouldn't want to be a member of.

You're a member of a club. Your deciding to leave may herald the
disintegration of that club. They know it and you know it. And you expect
the other members to welcome your decision with open arms ?


michael adams

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:54:59 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 14:25, harry wrote:
On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 07:17:34 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:36:14 -0700, harry wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

Coming to us if we remain.
Rapists, murderers, thieves and scroungers.

It's only fair. We export a load of ours to Spain.

Of course, they'll be coming back if we vote Leave, according to the
Spanish PM.

Our go there with money to spend and to retire.
Not as scroungers and for jobs.


They go there because its cheaper and they still get free medical
treatment. Many are living on state pensions.

Once they are expelled and come back their health will deteriorate in
the British climate and the NHS will pay lots of cash looking after them.

It already does doesn;t it as Spain claims the money back.


They will also need housing in suitable accommodation so that will push
up housing costs.

Well most if they do leave spain will sell their place in spain.

Unlikely they will be able to sell it if all the poms are kicked out of
Spain.

Not that that is going to happen.

They will not be like the romainan that was renting and now
has no where to live and no money to buy or rent a property.

They would in fact be very like the romanian if they were
kicked out of Spain, were unable to sell what they have in
Spain because they were all being kicked out of Spain,
ended up back in Britain with **** all in the way of saving
or assets and demand that the state provide them with
somewhere to live.

Selling their overseas homes won't help as there will
be nobody to buy them, so they will go cheap.

Really, there's plenty of people wanting to buy them.

Not if all the poms were kicked out of Spain there wouldnt be.

There would in fact be a massive oversupply of places the
poms where desperate to sell and no poms to buy them.

That means they will have no assets so they will be claiming
pension credits, housing benefits, etc. putting up taxes.

rubbish.

It is accurate if Spain did kick all the poms out.

It is estimated that up to 2 million people will be in this boat.

where does this estimate come from ?

Straight from someone's arse, like all estimates always are.

So if they get the minimum pension credit and housing benefit that will
add up to £20 billion to taxes and they won't pay anywhere near that in
tax.

So whatever happend the the claim that immigration is good for teh economy

It remains.

because they will be spending money in the UK

Not when they can't sell what they have in Spain.

and paying taxes.

Yes, they will certainly be paying VAT on their pension spending.

If the ex-pats DO come back then they be spending money in the UK,

Yes.

unlike my spanish friend who has just brought a flat in barcelona
and she is living her in London and has been for 22+ years, and has
no plans as yet to return, but can;t afford a flat in most parts of the
UK.

Not where anyone would want to live there, anyway.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
whisky-dave wrote

It is funny. The BEXIT lot think all of the EU are out to 'get' the UK,
but if we leave will suddenly behave like gentlemen towards us.

Not heard anyone say that.

You've not been paying attention, then. ;-)

No one has said that in here.

What some are climing is that the EU won't
buy UK products or will put a tariff on them.

If we do leave, I'll bet a large sum of money that we'll end up signing a
trade agreement with the EU under worse terms than we have at present.

Depends on what you mean by worse. That may well be true with
the detail on tariffs and quotas, but is wrong when it no longer has
to include completely free movement of people with the EU.

We simply can't exist without the EU in practice.

That's a lie. Certainly can't do as well as currently without the EU.
But can also do a lot better on stuff like the movement of people
too. It would be much better for Britain if it was able to be selective
about what EU citizens it allowed to migrate to Britain, only those
who benefit Britain.

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
whisky-dave wrote:
They will also need housing in suitable accommodation so that will
push up housing costs.

Well most if they do leave spain will sell their place in spain.

The housing market in Spain is nothing like the UK one.

True, essentially because they build a lot more new housing
there, particularly in the ghettos where the poms end up etc.

Most properties there go down in value over the years

That is mostly due to the gross oversupply
of houses aimed at foreigners.

- to be replaced with new. Especially in the
areas where UK expats tend to congregate.

And if Spain was actually stupid enough to kick poms
out after Britain left the EU, poms wouldn’t have a hope
in hell of selling what they own there because of the
complete collapse of the market for that sort of house.

Which is why even Spain wouldn’t actually be that stupid.

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"Bob Eager" wrote in message
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2016 16:00:28 +0100, Capitol wrote:

dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

They won't be expelled,

Correct.

but it will cost them too much to stay there.

Dont buy that either, even if the pound does slump and it won't.

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dennis@home wrote
Capitol wrote
dennis@home wrote:

https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

When has the UK left the agreements with another country?

When it joined the EEC and left the agreements with the commonwealth.

You can't possible compare what will happen if we leave with
what happens in other countries where nothing has happened.

But you can realise that even if the EU refuses to have a trade
agreement with Britain unless it includes the free movement
of people, that Britain is free to use the WTO rules and trade
on regardless with the EU and point out to the EU that if it
trys playing silly buggers with tariffs or quotas or both, that
the WTO will **** it over big time because the EU has signed
up to those WTO rules and gets to wear the arse kicking it
would get if it was actually stupid enough to try that.

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"dennis@home" wrote in message
web.com...
On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?


BTW at the moment they get free healthcare courtesy of the EU.
Once we leave why would that continue?
Once it goes the poorer expats would have no choice but to return and get
NHS treatment so they will return even if they aren't expelled.

Much more likely that except for chronic medical problems they
just go back to Britain for the free treatment they require and then
return to Spain where it is much cheaper to live than in Britain.

The brexit lot just haven't thought anything through

Neither have you.

and just hope everything will end better than it is.

And you lot just try lots of FUD.

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"michael adams" wrote in message
...

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

If we vote to leave, I would expect them to respect the democratic will
of the people. And negotiate in good faith. But perhaps I'm being
naive.

You are.

After all, Merkel, Juncker, and others have already said that
they will behave like ****s. Which, as others have said, makes it a
club I wouldn't want to be a member of.

You're a member of a club.

Yes.

Your deciding to leave may herald the disintegration of that club.

Not a chance with the EU.

They know it and you know it.

Nothing to 'know'

And you expect the other members to welcome your decision with open arms ?

Nope, but what can they do that doesn’t involve
cutting off their nose to spite their face ?

The krauts certainly arent stupid enough to let some
fool like Junker to get involved in a trade war that will
see their exports to Britain cut off. And the frogs certainly
aren't going to actually be stupid enough to see Airbus
crippled given how competitive Boeing is in their market.

I don’t even believe that Junkers will be allowed to actually
be stupid enough to demand free movement of people
in any trade agreement with Britain and even if he is that
stupid, that would be no big deal for Britain given that it
can carry on fine trading with the EU under the WTO rules
and would be free to use the cheapest imports it can find
for food etc instead of having to pay a penalty on imports
that are from non EU countrys as at present.

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On Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:55:04 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

If we vote to leave, I would expect them to respect the democratic will
of the people. And negotiate in good faith. But perhaps I'm being
naive.

You are.

After all, Merkel, Juncker, and others have already said that
they will behave like ****s. Which, as others have said, makes it a
club I wouldn't want to be a member of.

You're a member of a club. Your deciding to leave may herald the
disintegration of that club. They know it and you know it. And you expect
the other members to welcome your decision with open arms ?


michael adams

...

A looney bin. Especially Merkel.
It's their own ****ing fault.
They had chance to come to agreement with us and refused.

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On 08/06/16 09:36, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , michael
adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

If we vote to leave, I would expect them to respect the democratic will
of the people. And negotiate in good faith. But perhaps I'm being
naive.

You are.

After all, Merkel, Juncker, and others have already said that
they will behave like ****s. Which, as others have said, makes it a
club I wouldn't want to be a member of.

You're a member of a club. Your deciding to leave may herald the
disintegration of that club. They know it and you know it. And you expect
the other members to welcome your decision with open arms ?

Can't be much of a club if one member leaving has that effect.

Well exactly.

In fact its not unlikely that this will trigger France and Greece to
leave and Germany as well.

Shorn of the main contributors, there isn't much point in anyone else
staying.

If we do get a vote to leave, and Cameron and the Tory****s don't
finagle that to mean 'now I can renegotiate' I think it is more likely
than not that the EU, at least in its present guise, will collapse

Which frankly it should.

It is simply not fit for purpose - well the purpose it is supposed to
have. It is eminently fit for the purpose it does have, that of
perpetuating and unassailable political elite who have no incentive
whatsoever to govern anything.



--
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 21:20, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:
On 07/06/2016 16:00, Capitol wrote:
dennis@home wrote:


https://euobserver.com/migration/133704

I haven't noticed expats being expelled from most other countries
where they are resident. Another remain scare story! You remainers
really need to make a case extolling the benefits of the EU, or it
that
there aren't any, so you can only threaten?

When has the UK left the agreements with another country?
You can't possible compare what will happen if we leave with what
happens in other countries where nothing has happened.

Where is your positive case? Doesn't exist does it?

How can it exist when it has yet to happen?
Is this just another exitist attempt to muddy the water?
So your positive case is imaginary?

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 08/06/16 09:36, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , michael
adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .

If we vote to leave, I would expect them to respect the democratic will
of the people. And negotiate in good faith. But perhaps I'm being
naive.

You are.

After all, Merkel, Juncker, and others have already said that
they will behave like ****s. Which, as others have said, makes it a
club I wouldn't want to be a member of.

You're a member of a club. Your deciding to leave may herald the
disintegration of that club. They know it and you know it. And you
expect
the other members to welcome your decision with open arms ?

Can't be much of a club if one member leaving has that effect.

Well exactly.

In fact its not unlikely that this will trigger France and Greece to leave
and Germany as well.

About as likely as your other FUD of them sending in the tanks, IMO.

Shorn of the main contributors, there isn't much point in anyone else
staying.

If we do get a vote to leave, and Cameron and the Tory****s don't finagle
that to mean 'now I can renegotiate' I think it is more likely than not
that the EU, at least in its present guise, will collapse

Which frankly it should.

It is simply not fit for purpose - well the purpose it is supposed to
have. It is eminently fit for the purpose it does have, that of
perpetuating and unassailable political elite who have no incentive
whatsoever to govern anything.



--
"In our post-modern world, climate science is not powerful because it is
true: it is true because it is powerful."

Lucas Bergkamp

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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
.. .
In article , michael
adams wrote:

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...

If we vote to leave, I would expect them to respect the democratic will
of the people. And negotiate in good faith. But perhaps I'm being
naive.

You are.

After all, Merkel, Juncker, and others have already said that
they will behave like ****s. Which, as others have said, makes it a
club I wouldn't want to be a member of.

You're a member of a club. Your deciding to leave may herald the
disintegration of that club. They know it and you know it. And you expect
the other members to welcome your decision with open arms ?

Can't be much of a club if one member leaving has that effect.

More like a cricket team then. In your village there are only eleven people
including yourself capable of playing cricket to a standard whereby you
won't all embarrass yourselves, and where other village teams will actually
give you a game.

Then all of a sudden you alone decide you don't want to play cricket any more.
You'd much rather stay at home posting on Usenet all day and setting the world
to rights. And so the cricket club disbands and the regular matches on the
village green are a thing of the past.

And everyone knows who's responsible.



michael adams

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