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why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or
oven? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote:
why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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jim k wrote
why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? With the oven it would let you start it cooking a roast etc that you have put in there when leaving when you know what time you will be home to eat it so it starts cooking before you get home so its ready to eat a bit later than you you get home etc. And potentially with complicated recipes the web site with the recipe on it could program the oven for you and all you have to do is put the stuff to be cooked in the oven when told to etc. I do that manually now and would prefer to be able to program the oven for the particular meal being cooked over the net instead of having to manually enter the cooking details ever time I cook that particular thing. How I do some stuff like rice in the microwave oven is already multiphase, so it would be nice to have the database just program the microwave for me when I indicate that I will cook that. With a washing machine it could work out when the power will be cheapest from the net and wash your stuff when its cheapest when you tell it when you want the clothes by. |
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"jim" k wrote in message o.uk... why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? That's so you can have - *shouting across room* - Hey darling, this is a great party, will you turn down the oven a smidgeon. I think we'll stay a while longer. or Oh my gosh, I set the machine to a high spin and it's full of expensive delicates. Slow it down a tad will you. or Turn up the oven, that prick Speed just arrived, we'll go now. |
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On Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:03:25 UTC+1, jim wrote:
why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? -- Jim K It is the future (unfortunately) as part of demand side electricity management. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_demand_management Better get used to the idea. |
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On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' -- Some people like to travel by train because it combines the slowness of a car with the cramped public exposure of an airplane. Dennis Miller |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
... On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' I still have a Version1 of those. Treated with respect and frequent DIY servicing, one of those will last a lifetime. |
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harry wrote
jim wrote why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? It is the future (unfortunately) as part of demand side electricity management. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_demand_management That is a different matter entirely. Better get used to the idea. No need with what he is talking about. |
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"harry" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:03:25 UTC+1, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? -- Jim K It is the future (unfortunately) as part of demand side electricity management. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_demand_management That only works if the internet connection part comes for free As industry pundits see all this HiTech nonsense added to kitchen appliances as a way to sell their product for a premium, why would anyone pay that premium if the benefits fall to someone else? tim |
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Well, I suppose the cooker I can understand, but since most washing machines
these days lie about the time to the finish based on the load weight etc, it would seem to be a bit pointless. Apparently other devices, such as toasters can be programmed via blue tooth as well though I cannot say I've ever seen one. Assumedly you custom set up heating for a given food and it then remembers it, but then what is wrong with a knob with a pointer on it? Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "jim" k wrote in message o.uk... why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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Brian Gaff wrote
Well, I suppose the cooker I can understand, but since most washing machines these days lie about the time to the finish based on the load weight etc, it would seem to be a bit pointless. Not when you use the net connection to get the load done when the power is cheapest. Apparently other devices, such as toasters can be programmed via blue tooth as well though I cannot say I've ever seen one. Assumedly you custom set up heating for a given food and it then remembers it, but then what is wrong with a knob with a pointer on it? Doesnt allow you to select what works for more than just basic toast like crumpets, frozen bread, hamburger buns etc etc etc. When its got a fancy control so that it gets it right every time, doesnt cost anymore to allow you to say what you are toasting so there is no trial and error with the knob involved once you have worked out what works best with each thing you toast. jim k wrote why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? |
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John Rumm Wrote in message:
On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Creased in the drum? Can't say I've ever knowingly struggled with that...;-) But what if one doesn't eat all in one TV dinners? If one did couldn't they done adequate justice in the microwave in the 5 mins it takes to empty the washing machine into the dryer? :-) -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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jim wrote:
why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So that the manufacturer can make them as unreliable as the current PVRs. |
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tim... wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... On Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:03:25 UTC+1, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? -- Jim K It is the future (unfortunately) as part of demand side electricity management. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_demand_management That only works if the internet connection part comes for free As industry pundits see all this HiTech nonsense added to kitchen appliances as a way to sell their product for a premium, why would anyone pay that premium if the benefits fall to someone else? tim Remember some turkeys always vote for Xmas (or the EU). |
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On 02/06/2016 23:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. That would be the anti crease function on my washer, stops before the final spin and you just press continue when you get back and its finished in about ten minutes, no internet needed. |
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On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote:
why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you could start them up while you were out, and have closes washed or dinner cooked on your return? I know that a timeswitch is nearly as good, but only if your return time is entirely predictable. -- Clive Page |
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On 03/06/2016 06:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' These days you can phone her at work and ask her to remotely put the dinner on ;-) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 03/06/2016 12:32, dennis@home wrote:
On 02/06/2016 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. That would be the anti crease function on my washer, stops before the final spin and you just press continue when you get back and its finished in about ten minutes, no internet needed. I was not suggesting they were good reasons ;-) (in reality, they just create a larger attack surface to make it easier for the bad guys / spooks to get their fingers into your home network!) -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. You know how long your washing machine cycle is? ;-) My Miele has an anti-crease function. It turns over the washing every once in a while after the cycle is finished. -- *When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 03/06/16 13:51, John Rumm wrote:
On 03/06/2016 06:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' These days you can phone her at work and ask her to remotely put the dinner on ;-) There was an article I read - something like the dfeath of te americamn mifddle calss, which made the following point. When wives stayed at home, husbands had to be paid enough to live on, and houses were cheaper because no one could afford to pay more. When wives started working, husbands salaries got less, and house prices got steeper as two income houses where competing for them. Single income families could not afford to pay so *all* wives now *had* to work, and so also the demand for labour saving devices to do in an hour what used to take a day (e.g. washing) rose, and skills like cooking died, as microwaved ready meals became the order of te day. Its called 'progress' -- "What do you think about Gay Marriage?" "I don't." "Don't what?" "Think about Gay Marriage." |
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On Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:59:50 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
jim k wrote why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? And potentially with complicated recipes the web site with the recipe on it could program the oven for you and all you have to do is put the stuff to be cooked in the oven when told to etc. I seriously hope it's only Rod that would be useful for. Surely if someone's too mentally amiss to even set a temperature dial they wouldn't manage to go to a website to tell it to do it. NT |
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On Friday, 3 June 2016 13:51:05 UTC+1, John Rumm wrote:
Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' These days you can phone her at work and ask her to remotely put the dinner on ;-) For the people that don't have wives, there'll be a personal concierge service that will do it for you - until it's outsourced to India and you come home to toad in the hole and find a ... well, you can guess. Owain |
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On Friday, 3 June 2016 13:07:37 UTC+1, Clive Page wrote:
So you could start them up while you were out, and have closes washed or dinner cooked on your return? For people in Scotland, a machine to wash closes would be wonderful. Owain |
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On Friday, 3 June 2016 07:04:24 UTC+1, Richard wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' I still have a Version1 of those. Treated with respect and frequent DIY servicing, one of those will last a lifetime. I heard it just feels like a lifetime. |
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On Friday, 3 June 2016 08:37:00 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
Well, I suppose the cooker I can understand, but since most washing machines these days lie about the time to the finish based on the load weight etc, Mine certainly does. it would seem to be a bit pointless. Why. Apparently other devices, such as toasters can be programmed via blue tooth as well though I cannot say I've ever seen one. Assumedly you custom set up heating for a given food and it then remembers it, but then what is wrong with a knob with a pointer on it? Brian you can do whatever you want with your knob, but I can see advantages in teh future for cooking and/or including reheating. You download a recipe, then gradualy when prompted add differnt ingrediants direct from the fridge or freezer. |
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On Friday, 3 June 2016 13:07:37 UTC+1, Clive Page wrote:
On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you could start them up while you were out, and have closes washed or dinner cooked on your return? I know that a timeswitch is nearly as good, but only if your return time is entirely predictable. If you use the M25 that sort of thing can be handy as you could adjust anyhting that is IoT (internet of things). Suppose you set a timeer to cook your dinner for 7pm. Teh M25 has a 7 mile tail back so you'll get home an hour late, you can txt or whatever to tell yuor oven to delay by 1 hour. Of course the 50s version the wife was better but they don't make them as relaible or as cheap as they used to be, and most cost a lot more to run than they used too. I can't even find one than can cook ! |
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On 03/06/2016 06:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' Today its called the delay timer fitted to even the cheapest of washing machines and ovens -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote:
why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? Over the past few months we have been looking at some new appliances as we expect to move house. Several times the sales-droids have pointed out internet connectivity (either of actual goods, or possibly upcoming). Not one has been able sensibly to answer the obvious question, why would we want that? For our own needs, I cannot see any advantages to internet connectivity, even if it didn't jack the prices up. There are potential reasons. Perhaps with more complex goods, remote diagnostics in case of problems, firmware/software updates, and the like. And for Hotpoint appliances, a built-in emergency fire service call module? -- Rod |
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On 03/06/2016 14:07, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
There was an article I read - something like the dfeath of te americamn mifddle calss, which made the following point. have you got fat fingers or is it whisky? |
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:56:27 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. You know how long your washing machine cycle is? ;-) My Miele has an anti-crease function. It turns over the washing every once in a while after the cycle is finished. 39 minuets "daily quick" cycle. Almost everything gets washed on that, with less than half the recommended dose of Tesco Everyday Value powder. Plus the magic ingredient of course; Manchester's wonderfully soft water. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:53:12 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: On 03/06/2016 12:32, dennis@home wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. That would be the anti crease function on my washer, stops before the final spin and you just press continue when you get back and its finished in about ten minutes, no internet needed. I was not suggesting they were good reasons ;-) I did wonder about that. I've read about you home automation enthusiasts. (in reality, they just create a larger attack surface to make it easier for the bad guys / spooks to get their fingers into your home network!) -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:51:01 +0100, John Rumm
wrote: On 03/06/2016 06:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' These days you can phone her at work and ask her to remotely put the dinner on ;-) I've recently added a bank of eight relays to my Raspberry Pi Asterisk phone system, at the moment they do nothing but "click", I keep looking at it and thinking, I'll find a use for that some day. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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Rod Speed wrote jim k wrote why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? And potentially with complicated recipes the web site with the recipe on it could program the oven for you and all you have to do is put the stuff to be cooked in the oven when told to etc. I seriously hope it's only Rod that would be useful for. Surely if someone's too mentally amiss to even set a temperature dial they wouldn't manage to go to a website to tell it to do it. We aren't talking about just setting the temperature dial with the best of the microwave ovens and multiphase cooking that is needed to do even just some stuff like rice properly. Only a terminal ****wit such as yourself would 'think' it was better to manually copy that detail from the printed recipe to the oven when you want to do that particular recipe. |
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On 03/06/16 20:30, Graham. wrote:
I've recently added a bank of eight relays to my Raspberry Pi Asterisk phone system, at the moment they do nothing but "click", I keep looking at it and thinking, I'll find a use for that some day. Heh, me looking for a 5 port KVM switch, I've just squandered on a 16 port jobby. I suppose I'll find a use for the other 11 ports one day ... -- Adrian C |
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In article , Richard
writes "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' I still have a Version1 of those. Treated with respect and frequent DIY servicing, one of those will last a lifetime. I was writing my will the other day and I said to my wife I was leaving everything to her "So what's new" she replied (Copied from another newsgroup) -- bert |
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harry writes On Thursday, 2 June 2016 23:03:25 UTC+1, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? -- Jim K It is the future (unfortunately) as part of demand side electricity management. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_demand_management It's not along ago your were saying how wonderful it was. Better get used to the idea. -- bert |
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"Graham." wrote in message
... On Fri, 03 Jun 2016 13:56:27 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote: In article , John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. You know how long your washing machine cycle is? ;-) My Miele has an anti-crease function. It turns over the washing every once in a while after the cycle is finished. 39 minuets "daily quick" cycle. Keep coming bach for more? |
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"whisky-dave" wrote in message ... On Friday, 3 June 2016 08:37:00 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote: Well, I suppose the cooker I can understand, but since most washing machines these days lie about the time to the finish based on the load weight etc, Mine certainly does. it would seem to be a bit pointless. Why. Apparently other devices, such as toasters can be programmed via blue tooth as well though I cannot say I've ever seen one. Assumedly you custom set up heating for a given food and it then remembers it, but then what is wrong with a knob with a pointer on it? Brian you can do whatever you want with your knob, but I can see advantages in teh future for cooking and/or including reheating. You download a recipe, then gradualy when prompted add differnt ingrediants direct from the fridge or freezer. Yeah, I do that already with recipes in my database, would love to be able to do it from the recipe on the web. Very handy with even just a basic roast with the different veg and gravy prep etc to have it tell you when to do stuff so it all ends up ready at the same time you plate it etc. |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 03/06/2016 06:57, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 02/06/16 23:58, John Rumm wrote: On 02/06/2016 23:03, jim wrote: why TF would anyone want an Internet connected washing machine or oven? So you can trigger the washing to complete soon before you arrive home, giving it less chance to crease in the drum. And so you can come home to a hot but not burnt dinner? Sigh. In the 50s that was called 'a wife' Today its called the delay timer fitted to even the cheapest of washing machines and ovens There is no delay timer on any of my convection ovens. http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pro...f94e07_400.jpg And that is useless if you dont know what time you will get home anyway. |
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