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On 17/04/2016 08:49, harry wrote:
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Personally I am strongly against both.

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On 17/04/2016 08:49, harry wrote:
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Personally I am strongly against both.

Nothing against the e-cigarettes per se. Real cigarettes don't make the
smoker look like a dork in the way that the e variety does.

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 09:40:48 +0100, "Richard"
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Personally I am strongly against both.

Nothing against the e-cigarettes per se. Real cigarettes don't make the
smoker look like a dork in the way that the e variety does.

They wern't too bad when they were introduced as an aid to give up
traditional cigarettes but they seem to have become a habit all of
their own. And recently the vapour from some I have seen would give
the exhaust from a poorly maintained bus a run for its money.
Saw a woman the other day and honestly thought she was tending a
bonfire till she turned around and saw a stream of thick vapour coming
out of her mouth.
Made my 1960's Tri-ang trainset with smoke I had look very tame.

G.Harman

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 11:08:55 +0100, wrote:

On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 09:40:48 +0100, "Richard"
wrote:


Personally I am strongly against both.

Nothing against the e-cigarettes per se. Real cigarettes don't make the
smoker look like a dork in the way that the e variety does.

They wern't too bad when they were introduced as an aid to give up
traditional cigarettes but they seem to have become a habit all of
their own. And recently the vapour from some I have seen would give
the exhaust from a poorly maintained bus a run for its money.
Saw a woman the other day and honestly thought she was tending a
bonfire till she turned around and saw a stream of thick vapour coming
out of her mouth.

LOL!

Made my 1960's Tri-ang trainset with smoke I had look very tame.

I do have *some* sympathy for those who took up the bizarre habit (of
smoking tobacco) when it was not considered to be unsafe (really?) or
because of peer pressure (never understood that one myself) or just
'tried it' and became addicted (so that it then becomes a drug
addiction issue).

Why anyone would start 'these days' (now we know what we know)
completely amazes me.

So, if (like you say) someone is using eCigs to get off tobacco then I
guess they are a 'good thing' but I agree it does seem to have opened
up a new 'craze' for some? That said I'm pleased to say I don't seem
to come in contact with either very much (when generally out and
about) and no-one in my family and very few of my friends use either.

Cheers, T i m

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T i m wrote:
I do have *some* sympathy for those who took up the bizarre habit (of
smoking tobacco) when it was not considered to be unsafe (really?) or
because of peer pressure (never understood that one myself) or just
'tried it' and became addicted (so that it then becomes a drug
addiction issue).

Why anyone would start 'these days' (now we know what we know)
completely amazes me.

You do realise just the same can be said about drinking alcohol?

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They wern't too bad when they were introduced as an aid to give up
traditional cigarettes but they seem to have become a habit all of
their own.

They were introduced as a safer way of getting a nicotine hit than smoking
cigarettes. Of course if make sense for the ad men to promote them as a
help to stopping smoking. But the majority of users I know like them
because they are much cheaper than fags and work about as well.

For the average smoker, cigarettes cost about 20 times more than vaping.

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On 17/04/2016 08:49, harry wrote:
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Personally I am strongly against both.

both what:

cigarettes or leaving?

tim

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On 17/04/2016 08:49, harry wrote:
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Personally I am strongly against both.

E cigarettes are another way of providing the drug nicotine that smokers
crave. No reason not to regulate the quality etc of that drug.

In the same way as the manufacture and sales of alcohol products are
regulated.

But perhaps Carswell would like to be allowed to drink any old hooch. Or
more likely would want to be allowed to sell it to others.

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On 17/04/2016 11:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Broadback wrote:
On 17/04/2016 08:49, harry wrote:
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Personally I am strongly against both.

E cigarettes are another way of providing the drug nicotine that smokers
crave. No reason not to regulate the quality etc of that drug.

In the same way as the manufacture and sales of alcohol products are
regulated.

Are you sure they are? Apart from hygiene I'm not aware of much red tape
for micro breweries.

But perhaps Carswell would like to be allowed to drink any old hooch. Or
more likely would want to be allowed to sell it to others.

I think he has better things to do with his time than run an off-license.

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On 17/04/2016 11:22, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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Broadback wrote:
On 17/04/2016 08:49, harry wrote:
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Personally I am strongly against both.

E cigarettes are another way of providing the drug nicotine that
smokers crave. No reason not to regulate the quality etc of that drug.

In the same way as the manufacture and sales of alcohol products are
regulated.

Are you sure they are? Apart from hygiene I'm not aware of much red tape
for micro breweries.

I was more thinking of distilling. But any food products are covered by
all sorts of regulations. As far as I know, there are non for the fluid
used for vaping. That's not to say the better makers don't have standards.

But perhaps Carswell would like to be allowed to drink any old hooch.
Or more likely would want to be allowed to sell it to others.

I think he has better things to do with his time than run an off-license.

Yes - he spends most of his time trying to find which side of the fence to
sit on.

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On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 00:49:41 -0700, harry wrote:

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Is there nothing they won't poke their noses into? Talk about a nanny
superstate.

On 17/04/2016 08:49, harry wrote:
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What's so difficult for a small company to know its own sales figures
and for knowing the sales are to the adult population.

Unfortunately a lot of the red tape is generated by the UK government
gold plating EU legislation so it morphs into something different to
what was originally intended.

It's not that the French, German, Italian, Spanish etc. ignore
legislation that they don't like - it's because the governments in those
countries don't add another thousan d rules on
top of the one proposed in the first place.

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harry wrote

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Just more of the usual mindless silly stuff.

Britain needs to recapture the entrepreneurial spirit of
the industrial revolution to succeed in the 21st century.

Then it's doomed, because it ain't gunna happen.

We should be pioneers in the digital revolution

Couldn't even manage that with computers, or DNA or
antibiotics or anything else that it had the edge on initially.

And that has nothing whatever to do with the EU because
all those dropped balls happened long before Britain had
even joined the EEC, let alone was part of the EU.

Once the US got up one hell of a head of steam,
Britain was doomed. It really is as basic as that
and they ended bailing you lot out TWICE now.