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Failure Mode of Plastic
The type of plastic often used to wrap cheese intrigues me - it is a devil
to start a tear but once a tear is started ot goes all over the place with no effort. What is going on with the material properties? |
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Failure Mode of Plastic
On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:12:15 GMT
DerbyBorn wrote: The type of plastic often used to wrap cheese intrigues me - it is a devil to start a tear but once a tear is started ot goes all over the place with no effort. What is going on with the material properties? The same with the stuff that radishes are wrapped in. Almost impossible to start an opening, but once you have, it's no use as a wrapper any more. It's all the responsibility of The Organisation, aka a TV series of many years ago, in which Donald Sinden was the head of a company whose sole purpose was to make life difficult for people. Examples we Food Wrappers, as here, that drove people to distraction and even murder; and a little old lady in a blue Mini driving continuously around a roundabout with the left flashers on. -- Davey. |
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On 16/04/16 17:12, DerbyBorn wrote:
The type of plastic often used to wrap cheese intrigues me - it is a devil to start a tear but once a tear is started ot goes all over the place with no effort. What is going on with the material properties? It's from the same lab as the bags used to contain frozen fruit! |
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Failure Mode of Plastic
The first attempt at confounding the public was to vacuum pack sliced meats
with a transparent piece over the top so you cannot tell how much water was added to make the weight up, they used to leave a corner free to pull it off with, but that was far too easy so now they glue it down firmly all the way around the edges, and then when you pierce it, usually with a tip of a fork, there is not enough to cover the meat up again so you need a bag or clingfilm to do that. It seems to me that most food packaging is specially designed to be convenient for the makers but inconvenient for the customer. The tearing issue is because once the surface is broken it unzips so to speak, but when complete and stretched it is very strong. Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "Tim Watts" wrote in message ... On 16/04/16 17:12, DerbyBorn wrote: The type of plastic often used to wrap cheese intrigues me - it is a devil to start a tear but once a tear is started ot goes all over the place with no effort. What is going on with the material properties? It's from the same lab as the bags used to contain frozen fruit! |
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Failure Mode of Plastic
On 17/04/16 08:36, Brian Gaff wrote:
The tearing issue is because once the surface is broken it unzips so to speak, but when complete and stretched it is very strong. That mode of tearing is when you have a material with relatively high tensile strength, but relatively low elasticity. Once a split starts, the low elasticity puts a huge stress concentration at the tear. -- How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think. Adolf Hitler |
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Failure Mode of Plastic
On Sun, 17 Apr 2016 08:36:44 +0100
"Brian Gaff" wrote: It seems to me that most food packaging is specially designed to be convenient for the makers but inconvenient for the customer. See my post about The Organisation programme with Donald Sinden! -- Davey. |
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Failure Mode of Plastic
The Natural Philosopher wrote in news:nevks3$f8g$1
@news.albasani.net: On 17/04/16 08:36, Brian Gaff wrote: The tearing issue is because once the surface is broken it unzips so to speak, but when complete and stretched it is very strong. That mode of tearing is when you have a material with relatively high tensile strength, but relatively low elasticity. Once a split starts, the low elasticity puts a huge stress concentration at the tear. Thanks - that is the sort of info I wanted. |
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