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tim... April 8th 16 12:46 PM

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"S Viemeister" wrote in message
...
On 4/7/2016 1:38 PM, news wrote:
In article , S Viemeister
wrote:
I thought I might be able to tolerate beetroot in a
carrot-cake-like incarnation. Nope. Still tastes like
dirt.


I recognise that dirt/soil taste.

Try sliced beetroot with finely sliced or chopped garlic or
onion to get rid of that taste.

You benefit from beetroot AND garlic

I've tried beetroot many times, in many ways. Never again.



I like Beetroot, unfortunately, my bowels do not :-(

But even if I were to be prepared to suffer the side effect, the clinically
tested results from taking this, or any other single food in excess, on your
BP is going 2 or 3 points.

And as I need to find 30, what's the point!

(and the effect of indulging in multiple single foods in excess is not
additive)

tim







The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 8th 16 01:00 PM

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On 08/04/16 12:31, tim... wrote:

"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
tim... wrote:

"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers

they made me need to go to the toilet 6 times every night

really debilitating

tim





Which species if beta blockers?


Bisoprolo Fumarate



all they did to me was make me laid back and lazy.

They are adrenaline blockers and are there to stop you getting stressed
out and over revving a weak heart

--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits that left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

Andrew[_22_] April 8th 16 01:02 PM

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On 08/04/2016 11:58, whisky-dave wrote:


of course you can eat anything whether or not you'll get any nutritional or food value from it is another matter.


Apart from teeth, beak, nails and claws, are there any parts of a pig or
chicken that a typical Chinese person won't eat ?.



Andrew[_22_] April 8th 16 01:06 PM

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On 07/04/2016 19:59, S Viemeister wrote:

I've tried beetroot many times, in many ways. Never again.
Garlic, though, is a staple in our kitchen.


Have you tried the cooked-in-vinegar packs that cost about a £1 in
Sainsbury and other places ?. Much more palatable than the plain boiled
out-of-the-ground beetroot.

S Viemeister[_2_] April 8th 16 01:09 PM

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On 4/8/2016 8:06 AM, Andrew wrote:
On 07/04/2016 19:59, S Viemeister wrote:

I've tried beetroot many times, in many ways. Never again.
Garlic, though, is a staple in our kitchen.


Have you tried the cooked-in-vinegar packs that cost about a £1 in
Sainsbury and other places ?. Much more palatable than the plain boiled
out-of-the-ground beetroot.


Yes.

michael adams[_6_] April 8th 16 01:13 PM

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"Andrew" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/2016 11:58, whisky-dave wrote:


of course you can eat anything whether or not you'll get any nutritional or food value
from it is another matter.


Apart from teeth, beak, nails and claws, are there any parts of a pig or chicken that a
typical Chinese person won't eat ?.


If they eat in MacDonalds you mean ?

What did you think Chicken McNuggets were made of then ?

Or what did you think really cheap pork sausages as
sold on a High St near you, need to contain, to
qualify as pork ?

It's often been said that the only part of a pig that can't
be made use of, is the squeak.


michael adams

....



Andrew[_22_] April 8th 16 01:14 PM

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On 08/04/2016 09:01, michael adams wrote:


Why anyone with normal blood pressure should subject
themselves to drinking beetroot juice, unless they actually liked
the stuff, or should be visiting their doctors surgery to monitor
its effects on their BP, suggests only one thing to me.

Whatever the effect of beetroot juice might be on people such as
yourself with normal blood pressure, it certainly doesn't seem to
be doing much for your hypochondria.


michael adams


Tell that to all the atheletes who use it regularly. Any reduction in BP
and pulse rate before doing vigorous exercise, either athletically or
simply before heavy-duty DIY is a good thing. According to my GP I did
have mildly raised BP and they offered me the free flu jab even though
my age didn't indicate it. When I saked why, they siad I was 'high risk'
but wouldn't elaborate (but I have had hepatitis). I just shed a couple
of stone in weight and took more exercise and the problem disappeared on
it's own. A diastolic of 90/92 is upper limit of normal.



Andrew[_22_] April 8th 16 01:22 PM

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On 08/04/2016 12:39, tim... wrote:



97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to charge me
8 quid for them

*******s

tim


The NHS now costs £150 Billion a year, and no, hardly anyone is 'paying
all their taxes' to cover that amount. Only the top 25% of taxpayers
actually pays in more than they take out during their lifetime. The days
of the 'free at the point of use' NHS are numbered IMHO.

My 70-yo neighbour gets 'free' aspirin on (free) prescription which
costs the taxpayer massively more than the 30p for 64 days supply (*)
that is available in Tesco and elsewhere. He is even too effin lazy to
use the self monitoring BP machine and expects to be waited on hand and
foot. Meanwhile he is still working every day as a car mechanic, all for
cash-in-hand of course.

(*) Chop 300 mg tabs into 4 with a sharp knife. 16 tabs lasts 64 days.

tim... April 8th 16 01:54 PM

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/16 12:31, tim... wrote:

"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
tim... wrote:

"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers

they made me need to go to the toilet 6 times every night

really debilitating

tim





Which species if beta blockers?


Bisoprolo Fumarate



all they did to me was make me laid back and lazy.


so far they all make me tired, some make me fatigued as well

still looking for the one that works that doesn't knacker me


They are adrenaline blockers and are there to stop you getting stressed
out


I don't get stressed out
(except when arguing with some internet **** - FTAOD that comment is not
aimed at anyone here)

and over revving a weak heart


I don't have a weak heart, just high BP

tim




whisky-dave[_2_] April 8th 16 02:11 PM

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On Friday, 8 April 2016 13:03:21 UTC+1, Andrew wrote:
On 08/04/2016 11:58, whisky-dave wrote:


of course you can eat anything whether or not you'll get any nutritional or food value from it is another matter.


Apart from teeth, beak, nails and claws, are there any parts of a pig or
chicken that a typical Chinese person won't eat ?.


I'm really not sure, I thought they ate chicken feet/claws from what they were taking into AUstralian on the Boarder force program.


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 8th 16 02:12 PM

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On 08/04/16 13:54, tim... wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/16 12:31, tim... wrote:

"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
tim... wrote:

"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers

they made me need to go to the toilet 6 times every night

really debilitating

tim





Which species if beta blockers?

Bisoprolo Fumarate



all they did to me was make me laid back and lazy.


so far they all make me tired, some make me fatigued as well

still looking for the one that works that doesn't knacker me


They are adrenaline blockers and are there to stop you getting
stressed out


I don't get stressed out
(except when arguing with some internet **** - FTAOD that comment is not
aimed at anyone here)

and over revving a weak heart


I don't have a weak heart, just high BP


well then beta blockers probably won't help.

I have a BP monitor and dropped mine. No change to BP

Just take perindropril for BP and some other crap that dilates arteries,
and some anti-clots


tim





--
If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will
eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such
time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic
and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally
important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for
the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the
truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

Joseph Goebbels




tim... April 8th 16 02:18 PM

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/16 13:54, tim... wrote:

"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/16 12:31, tim... wrote:

"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
tim... wrote:

"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers

they made me need to go to the toilet 6 times every night

really debilitating

tim





Which species if beta blockers?

Bisoprolo Fumarate



all they did to me was make me laid back and lazy.


so far they all make me tired, some make me fatigued as well

still looking for the one that works that doesn't knacker me


They are adrenaline blockers and are there to stop you getting
stressed out


I don't get stressed out
(except when arguing with some internet **** - FTAOD that comment is not
aimed at anyone here)

and over revving a weak heart


I don't have a weak heart, just high BP


well then beta blockers probably won't help.


Actually they were the only combo with the Lercan that countered the raised
pulse rate that all the other attempts gave me

tim




michael adams[_6_] April 8th 16 02:24 PM

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/16 13:54, tim... wrote:

I don't have a weak heart, just high BP


well then beta blockers probably won't help.



says Dr Leslie Gormless-Turnip FRCS,

The UseNet Doctor you can trust.


If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to
believe it.


Not with you they won't. Even on the off-chance you ever got something right
which you obviously haven't here, they wouldn't believe that either. No matter
how many times you repeated it.


michael adams



Dennis@home April 8th 16 02:43 PM

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On 08/04/2016 10:27, Stuart Noble wrote:

Bear in mind that GPs are obsessed with prescribing blood pressure
pills, and they get very heavy handed if you try to reduce the dose. The
drugs are presumably cheap, so why wouldn't they keep you on them?


My GP keeps telling me to lose weight so he can stop the tablets.

If yours just wants to prescribe the pills I suggest you find a better one.



Dennis@home April 8th 16 02:47 PM

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On 08/04/2016 12:39, tim... wrote:



Having been told by a specialist, that if nothing else worked (he could
try me on a course of some expensive drugs @ £120 pm) I casually asked
my GP what was the cost of the drugs that he was currently prescribing.

97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to charge me
8 quid for them

*******s


It costs a hell of a lot more than £8 to diagnose you, write a script
and dispense it than the £8 tax.


Thomas Prufer April 8th 16 03:25 PM

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On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 18:37:22 +0100, polygonum wrote:

Is that simply mashed celeriac, or mashed potatoes with some celeriac added?


I've done both, with celeriac straight up being a bit watery, and the potato
starch binds that well.

Also goes well with parsley root, with or without potato.

In an expensive restaurant I was served a dish of pork and calf jowls stewed in
a sauce, possibly with red wine or dark beer and onions, celeriac-parsley
root-potato mash. Worth the expense...


Thomas Prufer

Capitol April 8th 16 05:52 PM

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tim... wrote:

"S Viemeister" wrote in message
...
On 4/7/2016 1:38 PM, news wrote:
In article , S Viemeister
wrote:
I thought I might be able to tolerate beetroot in a
carrot-cake-like incarnation. Nope. Still tastes like
dirt.

I recognise that dirt/soil taste.

Try sliced beetroot with finely sliced or chopped garlic or
onion to get rid of that taste.

You benefit from beetroot AND garlic

I've tried beetroot many times, in many ways. Never again.



I like Beetroot, unfortunately, my bowels do not :-(

But even if I were to be prepared to suffer the side effect, the
clinically tested results from taking this, or any other single food
in excess, on your BP is going 2 or 3 points.

And as I need to find 30, what's the point!

(and the effect of indulging in multiple single foods in excess is not
additive)

tim






I found razilez to have fewest side effects, however its a
marked laxative for many people at the 300mg level.

Capitol April 8th 16 05:59 PM

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michael adams wrote:
wrote in message
...

On 08/04/2016 11:58, whisky-dave wrote:


of course you can eat anything whether or not you'll get any nutritional or food value
from it is another matter.

Apart from teeth, beak, nails and claws, are there any parts of a pig or chicken that a
typical Chinese person won't eat ?.

If they eat in MacDonalds you mean ?

What did you think Chicken McNuggets were made of then ?



They still are in the US. Made the mistake of thinking Jamie Oliver
had persuaded them to upgrade the product and bought it once!

RayL12 April 8th 16 06:19 PM

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On 06/04/2016 1:13 PM, Stuart Noble wrote:
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers (and now also with amlodipine), I'm determined to
get off medication altogether. I've got me a Nutri Ninja but I hate
beetroot, so anyone got any alternatives? Not that keen on kale either
as it happens :-)



Most living cultures, such as beetroot vinegar, are a very healthy
balance of usable material. Virtually no waste. Because beetroot and,
other living matter, learns to defend itself against nature, it can
carry some good information.

Many types of vinegars are healthy. A small glass of red wine in a 4
hour margin is known to strip the arteries and veins of sticky deposits
and reduce heart pressure.

Look into making your own 'brews'. Dandelion & Burdock really is a
nice tasting healthy drink. Kombucha Tea is another highly recommended
source of goodness.

We evolved from living breathing plants. It makes sense to eat what we
are made of, and gain what they have learned.

....Ray.

polygonum April 8th 16 06:24 PM

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On 08/04/2016 15:25, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016 18:37:22 +0100, polygonum wrote:

Is that simply mashed celeriac, or mashed potatoes with some celeriac added?


I've done both, with celeriac straight up being a bit watery, and the potato
starch binds that well.

Also goes well with parsley root, with or without potato.

In an expensive restaurant I was served a dish of pork and calf jowls stewed in
a sauce, possibly with red wine or dark beer and onions, celeriac-parsley
root-potato mash. Worth the expense...


Thomas Prufer

Fully agree that potatoes add something and that is much more to my
taste. (Though a lot of spuds these days are incredibly sugary sweet. I
want floury/starchy! And flavoursome.)

--
Rod

tim... April 8th 16 07:31 PM

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"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 08/04/2016 10:27, Stuart Noble wrote:

Bear in mind that GPs are obsessed with prescribing blood pressure
pills, and they get very heavy handed if you try to reduce the dose. The
drugs are presumably cheap, so why wouldn't they keep you on them?


My GP keeps telling me to lose weight so he can stop the tablets.

If yours just wants to prescribe the pills I suggest you find a better
one.


Of course he wants me to lose 3 stone and go to the gym every day.

but it ain't gonna happen

tim





tim... April 8th 16 07:32 PM

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"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 08/04/2016 12:39, tim... wrote:



Having been told by a specialist, that if nothing else worked (he could
try me on a course of some expensive drugs @ £120 pm) I casually asked
my GP what was the cost of the drugs that he was currently prescribing.

97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to charge me
8 quid for them

*******s


It costs a hell of a lot more than £8 to diagnose you, write a script and
dispense it than the £8 tax.


sorry

why should the cost of my script subsidise the consolation costs?

That's most unfair on those of us who have to pay

tim









Dennis@home April 8th 16 07:59 PM

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On 08/04/2016 19:32, tim... wrote:

"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 08/04/2016 12:39, tim... wrote:



Having been told by a specialist, that if nothing else worked (he could
try me on a course of some expensive drugs @ £120 pm) I casually asked
my GP what was the cost of the drugs that he was currently prescribing.

97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to charge me
8 quid for them

*******s


It costs a hell of a lot more than £8 to diagnose you, write a script
and dispense it than the £8 tax.


sorry

why should the cost of my script subsidise the consolation costs?

That's most unfair on those of us who have to pay


Its just another tax, its no more unfair than VAT or income tax.


Rod Speed April 8th 16 08:10 PM

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 8 April 2016 00:44:29 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 7 April 2016 19:48:29 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote
Stuart Noble wrote


I think I might switch to celery instead. That I quite like,
although my
sons can't bear it. Who knows how these lifelong aversions come
about

They're an evolutionary survival tactic. If a food source turns
bad, at least some will survive and the village/tribe continues.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Food sources don't turn bad in the sense that they
start killing people when they didn't previously.


Lol, ergotism anybody? Dodgy meat/fish etc.

And if you meant crop failure, it makes much
more sense to have evolved to be able to eat
almost anything and that is what humans have
done and we have seen people eat almost
anything when the **** hits the fan spectacularly
like it has in North Korea etc at times.


people do eat anything when sufficienly hungry.
Oh well, your run of 1 correct point couldn't last.


of course you can eat anything


Eat a brick. Have someone video that and post it on youtube.



polygonum April 8th 16 08:24 PM

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On 08/04/2016 19:32, tim... wrote:

"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 08/04/2016 12:39, tim... wrote:



Having been told by a specialist, that if nothing else worked (he
could try me on a course of some expensive drugs @ £120 pm) I
casually asked my GP what was the cost of the drugs that he was
currently prescribing.

97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to
charge me 8 quid for them

*******s


It costs a hell of a lot more than £8 to diagnose you, write a
script and dispense it than the £8 tax.


sorry

why should the cost of my script subsidise the consolation costs?

That's most unfair on those of us who have to pay

tim


Your prescription charge almost certainly doesn't cover the cost of
prescribing and dispensing the medicine - even if it were supplied to
the pharmacy for no cost at all.

The rationale for charges, and charge exemptions, is wayward and odd,
but the worst charge should be £104 a year. Surely anyone who has any
idea they will need more than twelve prescriptions a year would be mad
not to purchase a prepayment certificate (PPC)?

Being exempt and often reading of others being gleeful at their
exemption status, they are somewhat less happy when they realise the
fairly modest advantage it gives them.

The unlucky ones (financially) are those who would have been better off
with a PPC but didn't know that when they started getting prescriptions.
For example, someone who gets three items in one go, then nothing, then
some more items, and so on.

--
Rod

bm[_2_] April 8th 16 08:46 PM

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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 05:10:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 8 April 2016 00:44:29 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 7 April 2016 19:48:29 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote
Stuart Noble wrote

I think I might switch to celery instead. That I quite like,
although my
sons can't bear it. Who knows how these lifelong aversions come
about

They're an evolutionary survival tactic. If a food source turns
bad, at least some will survive and the village/tribe continues.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Food sources don't turn bad in the sense that they
start killing people when they didn't previously.

Lol, ergotism anybody? Dodgy meat/fish etc.

And if you meant crop failure, it makes much
more sense to have evolved to be able to eat
almost anything and that is what humans have
done and we have seen people eat almost
anything when the **** hits the fan spectacularly
like it has in North Korea etc at times.

people do eat anything when sufficienly hungry.
Oh well, your run of 1 correct point couldn't last.

of course you can eat anything


Eat a brick. Have someone video that and post it on youtube.

http://tinyurl.com/hxwlfsc


LOL
Now expect to have your **** flushed where it belongs.
LMFAO.
He gets funnier by the day.



Capitol April 8th 16 10:09 PM

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tim... wrote:

"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 08/04/2016 10:27, Stuart Noble wrote:

Bear in mind that GPs are obsessed with prescribing blood pressure
pills, and they get very heavy handed if you try to reduce the dose.
The
drugs are presumably cheap, so why wouldn't they keep you on them?


My GP keeps telling me to lose weight so he can stop the tablets.

If yours just wants to prescribe the pills I suggest you find a
better one.


Of course he wants me to lose 3 stone and go to the gym every day.

but it ain't gonna happen

tim




Most of the people I know who went for exercise have died early!

Rod Speed April 9th 16 08:33 AM

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"RayL12" wrote in message
...
On 06/04/2016 1:13 PM, Stuart Noble wrote:
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers (and now also with amlodipine), I'm determined to
get off medication altogether. I've got me a Nutri Ninja but I hate
beetroot, so anyone got any alternatives? Not that keen on kale either
as it happens :-)



Most living cultures, such as beetroot vinegar, are a very healthy
balance of usable material. Virtually no waste. Because beetroot and,
other living matter, learns to defend itself against nature, it can carry
some good information.

Many types of vinegars are healthy. A small glass of red wine in a 4 hour
margin is known to strip the arteries and veins of sticky deposits and
reduce heart pressure.

Look into making your own 'brews'. Dandelion & Burdock really is a nice
tasting healthy drink. Kombucha Tea is another highly recommended source
of goodness.

We evolved from living breathing plants.


And that is why some like you obviously have no brain.

It makes sense to eat what we are made of,


Soorreee, cannibalism is illegal.

and gain what they have learned.


Even sillier than you usually manage.


Rod Speed April 9th 16 08:51 AM

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"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 9 Apr 2016 05:10:29 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 8 April 2016 00:44:29 UTC+1, wrote:
On Thursday, 7 April 2016 19:48:29 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote
Stuart Noble wrote

I think I might switch to celery instead. That I quite like,
although my
sons can't bear it. Who knows how these lifelong aversions come
about

They're an evolutionary survival tactic. If a food source turns
bad, at least some will survive and the village/tribe continues.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Food sources don't turn bad in the sense that they
start killing people when they didn't previously.

Lol, ergotism anybody? Dodgy meat/fish etc.

And if you meant crop failure, it makes much
more sense to have evolved to be able to eat
almost anything and that is what humans have
done and we have seen people eat almost
anything when the **** hits the fan spectacularly
like it has in North Korea etc at times.

people do eat anything when sufficienly hungry.
Oh well, your run of 1 correct point couldn't last.

of course you can eat anything


Eat a brick. Have someone video that and post it on youtube.

http://tinyurl.com/hxwlfsc


Which one is Dave the sot ?


tim... April 9th 16 09:11 AM

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"dennis@home" wrote in message
web.com...
On 08/04/2016 19:32, tim... wrote:

"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 08/04/2016 12:39, tim... wrote:



Having been told by a specialist, that if nothing else worked (he could
try me on a course of some expensive drugs @ £120 pm) I casually asked
my GP what was the cost of the drugs that he was currently prescribing.

97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to charge me
8 quid for them

*******s

It costs a hell of a lot more than £8 to diagnose you, write a script
and dispense it than the £8 tax.


sorry

why should the cost of my script subsidise the consolation costs?

That's most unfair on those of us who have to pay


Its just another tax, its no more unfair than VAT or income tax.


of course it's more unfair

it's a charge based upon how "unlucky" you have been this year

none of the other taxes work this way

tim







tim... April 9th 16 09:16 AM

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"polygonum" wrote in message
...
On 08/04/2016 19:32, tim... wrote:

"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 08/04/2016 12:39, tim... wrote:



Having been told by a specialist, that if nothing else worked (he
could try me on a course of some expensive drugs @ £120 pm) I
casually asked my GP what was the cost of the drugs that he was
currently prescribing.

97 pence for a month - and the bleeding HNS have the nerve to
charge me 8 quid for them

*******s

It costs a hell of a lot more than £8 to diagnose you, write a
script and dispense it than the £8 tax.


sorry

why should the cost of my script subsidise the consolation costs?

That's most unfair on those of us who have to pay

tim


Your prescription charge almost certainly doesn't cover the cost of
prescribing and dispensing the medicine - even if it were supplied to
the pharmacy for no cost at all.


well then it should!

I can by a packet of aspirin in the supermarket for 30p

Were I to get them on a script it would (nominally) cost me 8 pounds, which
you say doesn't cover the dispensing fee.

where are all the additional costs that use up this 8 pounds?

The rationale for charges, and charge exemptions, is wayward and odd, but
the worst charge should be £104 a year. Surely anyone who has any idea
they will need more than twelve prescriptions a year would be mad not to
purchase a prepayment certificate (PPC)?


but you don't, do you?

Even now I know that I'm going to need these BP meds every day, because the
doctor gives me 2 months at a time I still only "know" that I need 6 per
year. Allowing for an average of 3-4 per year for my other "problems, I'm
up to 10

But will I need 12 this year? - I just don't know.

Being exempt and often reading of others being gleeful at their exemption
status, they are somewhat less happy when they realise the fairly modest
advantage it gives them.

The unlucky ones (financially) are those who would have been better off
with a PPC but didn't know that when they started getting prescriptions.
For example, someone who gets three items in one go, then nothing, then
some more items, and so on.


Which is how it is for most people

tim




Rod Speed April 9th 16 10:43 AM

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"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
tim... wrote:

"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 08/04/2016 10:27, Stuart Noble wrote:

Bear in mind that GPs are obsessed with prescribing blood pressure
pills, and they get very heavy handed if you try to reduce the dose.
The
drugs are presumably cheap, so why wouldn't they keep you on them?

My GP keeps telling me to lose weight so he can stop the tablets.

If yours just wants to prescribe the pills I suggest you find a better
one.


Of course he wants me to lose 3 stone and go to the gym every day.

but it ain't gonna happen


Most of the people I know who went for exercise have died early!


Far more of those I know who didn't died earlier.


whisky-dave[_2_] April 11th 16 10:19 AM

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On Friday, 8 April 2016 20:10:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message



of course you can eat anything


Eat a brick. Have someone video that and post it on youtube.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-cravings.html

although I was refering to teh models that ate paper.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...stay-full.html

Rod Speed April 11th 16 11:05 AM

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 8 April 2016 20:10:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message



of course you can eat anything


Eat a brick. Have someone video that and post it on youtube.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-cravings.html


I didn't realise that you not only were
a drunken ****, you had a **** as well.



whisky-dave[_2_] April 11th 16 02:11 PM

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On Monday, 11 April 2016 11:05:49 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Friday, 8 April 2016 20:10:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message



of course you can eat anything

Eat a brick. Have someone video that and post it on youtube.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-cravings.html


I didn't realise that you not only were
a drunken ****, you had a **** as well.


Takes one to know one.

Rod Speed April 11th 16 07:18 PM

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"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Monday, 11 April 2016 11:05:49 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
...
On Friday, 8 April 2016 20:10:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message


of course you can eat anything

Eat a brick. Have someone video that and post it on youtube.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-cravings.html


I didn't realise that you not only were
a drunken ****, you had a **** as well.


Takes one to know one.


Not with ****s.


RayL12 April 15th 16 01:12 AM

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On 09/04/2016 8:33 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"RayL12" wrote in message
...
On 06/04/2016 1:13 PM, Stuart Noble wrote:
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers (and now also with amlodipine), I'm determined to
get off medication altogether. I've got me a Nutri Ninja but I hate
beetroot, so anyone got any alternatives? Not that keen on kale either
as it happens :-)



Most living cultures, such as beetroot vinegar, are a very healthy
balance of usable material. Virtually no waste. Because beetroot and,
other living matter, learns to defend itself against nature, it can
carry some good information.

Many types of vinegars are healthy. A small glass of red wine in a 4
hour margin is known to strip the arteries and veins of sticky
deposits and reduce heart pressure.

Look into making your own 'brews'. Dandelion & Burdock really is a
nice tasting healthy drink. Kombucha Tea is another highly recommended
source of goodness.

We evolved from living breathing plants.


And that is why some like you obviously have no brain.

It makes sense to eat what we are made of,


Soorreee, cannibalism is illegal.

and gain what they have learned.


Even sillier than you usually manage.



This time next year, Rodney, we will still have infinite regression.

Rod Speed April 15th 16 08:17 AM

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"RayL12" wrote in message
...
On 09/04/2016 8:33 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"RayL12" wrote in message
...
On 06/04/2016 1:13 PM, Stuart Noble wrote:
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers (and now also with amlodipine), I'm determined
to
get off medication altogether. I've got me a Nutri Ninja but I hate
beetroot, so anyone got any alternatives? Not that keen on kale either
as it happens :-)


Most living cultures, such as beetroot vinegar, are a very healthy
balance of usable material. Virtually no waste. Because beetroot and,
other living matter, learns to defend itself against nature, it can
carry some good information.

Many types of vinegars are healthy. A small glass of red wine in a 4
hour margin is known to strip the arteries and veins of sticky
deposits and reduce heart pressure.

Look into making your own 'brews'. Dandelion & Burdock really is a
nice tasting healthy drink. Kombucha Tea is another highly recommended
source of goodness.

We evolved from living breathing plants.


And that is why some like you obviously have no brain.

It makes sense to eat what we are made of,


Soorreee, cannibalism is illegal.

and gain what they have learned.


Even sillier than you usually manage.



This time next year, Rodney, we will still have infinite regression.


Just another your pathetic little drug crazed vegy fantasys.


Bob Martin April 16th 16 08:38 AM

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in 1476642 20160415 081718 "Rod Speed" wrote:
"RayL12" wrote in message
...
On 09/04/2016 8:33 AM, Rod Speed wrote:


"RayL12" wrote in message
...
On 06/04/2016 1:13 PM, Stuart Noble wrote:
IIRC there was some discussion recently about the above re blood
pressure. Having had some unpleasant experiences with the legal high
known as beta blockers (and now also with amlodipine), I'm determined
to
get off medication altogether. I've got me a Nutri Ninja but I hate
beetroot, so anyone got any alternatives? Not that keen on kale either
as it happens :-)


Most living cultures, such as beetroot vinegar, are a very healthy
balance of usable material. Virtually no waste. Because beetroot and,
other living matter, learns to defend itself against nature, it can
carry some good information.

Many types of vinegars are healthy. A small glass of red wine in a 4
hour margin is known to strip the arteries and veins of sticky
deposits and reduce heart pressure.

Look into making your own 'brews'. Dandelion & Burdock really is a
nice tasting healthy drink. Kombucha Tea is another highly recommended
source of goodness.

We evolved from living breathing plants.

And that is why some like you obviously have no brain.

It makes sense to eat what we are made of,

Soorreee, cannibalism is illegal.

and gain what they have learned.

Even sillier than you usually manage.



This time next year, Rodney, we will still have infinite regression.


Just another your pathetic little drug crazed vegy fantasys.


ITYM "fantasies". ****.

bm[_2_] April 16th 16 09:10 AM

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"Bob Martin" wrote in message
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in 1476642 20160415 081718 "Rod Speed" wrote:
Just another your pathetic little drug crazed vegy fantasys.


ITYM "fantasies". ****.


It's an Aussie ****, whadaya expect?




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