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John Smith[_21_] March 23rd 16 10:48 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx




Tim Watts[_3_] March 23rd 16 10:50 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 23/03/16 22:48, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx




I used an electric plane - but check for nails first!

Green Bosch is what I have and it's still find since 1998

Rod Speed March 23rd 16 11:09 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
John Smith wrote

Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door
won't shut as pile is too thick. What's the best tool to
take off a bit off the bottom - a plane I presume


Yes.

but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable low cost one.


Makes more sense to hire one given you don't normally use one.

At most get a used one from freecycle or ebay etc.
Almost anything will do with what you want to do.

Just be careful about any metal bits in the
corners if it's a relatively modern door.

[email protected] March 23rd 16 11:30 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 23:10:06 UTC, Rod Speed wrote:
John Smith wrote

Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door
won't shut as pile is too thick. What's the best tool to
take off a bit off the bottom - a plane I presume


Yes.

but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable low cost one.


Makes more sense to hire one given you don't normally use one.


You can buy one for less than anything you can hire. Ignore Rod, he's a time waster.


NT

David Lang March 23rd 16 11:38 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 23/03/2016 22:48, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx



A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard

Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman

Rod Speed March 24th 16 12:07 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
David Lang wrote
John Smith wrote


Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile is
too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.


A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door,


It works fine there with an electric plane.

it's fine on the edges.


Its fine for the bottom too and is a lot easier to use
taking off a bit at a time so you don’t end up with too
much of a gap under the door when you are finished.

You need a circular saw and a sawboard


Nowhere near as good IMO.

http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.




Dave Plowman (News) March 24th 16 12:58 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.

--
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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Tim Watts[_3_] March 24th 16 08:11 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.

bm[_2_] March 24th 16 08:15 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the far
edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can knock
a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.


Spot on.



David Lang March 24th 16 08:24 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/2016 00:07, Rod Speed wrote:
David Lang wrote
John Smith wrote


Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as
pile is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the
bottom - a plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's
a reasonable low cost one.


A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door,


It works fine there with an electric plane.

it's fine on the edges.


Its fine for the bottom too and is a lot easier to use
taking off a bit at a time so you don’t end up with too
much of a gap under the door when you are finished.

You need a circular saw and a sawboard


Nowhere near as good IMO.


I've trimmed around 15 doors this year. Trust me, it's quicker & more
accurate.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman

David Lang March 24th 16 08:25 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/2016 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.

It will work, agreed. But a sawboard is easier and prevents splintering.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman

David Lang March 24th 16 08:26 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/2016 08:11, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.


That's precisely why a circular saw & sawboard s better.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman

Tim Watts[_3_] March 24th 16 08:28 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/16 08:26, David Lang wrote:
On 24/03/2016 08:11, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard

Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.

Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.


That's precisely why a circular saw & sawboard s better.


My reasons we I had no use for a circular saw, but a plane looked
useful, so I went for the plane.

For some reason I've never liked hand held circular saws - I would
rather muddle through with a jigsaw :)

Rod Speed March 24th 16 08:50 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
David Lang wrote
Rod Speed wrote
David Lang wrote
John Smith wrote


Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.


A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door,


It works fine there with an electric plane.


it's fine on the edges.


Its fine for the bottom too and is a lot easier to use
taking off a bit at a time so you don’t end up with too
much of a gap under the door when you are finished.


You need a circular saw and a sawboard


Nowhere near as good IMO.


I've trimmed around 15 doors this year. Trust me,


No thanks.

it's quicker & more accurate.


But not as good for the OP who isnt likely to be able to work
out just how much should be removed. Much safer to do it
more gradually with an electric plane for someone like that.

Doesn’t matter how quick it is for him.


Stuart Noble March 24th 16 09:03 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/2016 08:25, David Lang wrote:
On 24/03/2016 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.

It will work, agreed. But a sawboard is easier and prevents splintering.



+1
For accuracy on door trimming the tool needs to be following a guide,
hence the circ saw method really is a no brainer

Rod Speed March 24th 16 09:38 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 


"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/2016 08:25, David Lang wrote:
On 24/03/2016 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard

Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.

Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.

It will work, agreed. But a sawboard is easier and prevents splintering.



+1
For accuracy on door trimming the tool needs to be following a guide,


Doesn’t need to be accurate with the bottom of a door.

hence the circ saw method really is a no brainer


Wrong, as always.


Capitol March 24th 16 09:50 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
David Lang wrote:
On 24/03/2016 00:07, Rod Speed wrote:
David Lang wrote
John Smith wrote


Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as
pile is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the
bottom - a plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's
a reasonable low cost one.


A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door,


It works fine there with an electric plane.

it's fine on the edges.


Its fine for the bottom too and is a lot easier to use
taking off a bit at a time so you don’t end up with too
much of a gap under the door when you are finished.

You need a circular saw and a sawboard


Nowhere near as good IMO.


I've trimmed around 15 doors this year. Trust me, it's quicker & more
accurate.



If it's a composite hollow door, the bottom strip will be very thin. You
may be better off to remove the strip carefully before sawing off the
bottom of the door, then replace the strip. BTDTBTTS!

RJH[_2_] March 24th 16 10:28 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 23/03/2016 23:38, David Lang wrote:
On 23/03/2016 22:48, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx



A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Agreed. Unless it's only 1 or 2mm - and even then I find it difficult to
get a consistent depth with a plane.

Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Yep - just did one with the Lidl cordless circular saw and the
surprisingly good sawboard.

--
Cheers, Rob

Dave Plowman (News) March 24th 16 11:27 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.


I suppose it depends on the door design, but planing across the grain
isn't usually the best way. And electric planes ain't the easiest of
things to get a perfect edge with either. A sharp circular saw up against
a bit of straight wood as a guide will give a near perfect cut along and
across the grain.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.


I learnt that on door #1 !


After that it was fine.


--
*The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is required on it *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

bm[_2_] March 24th 16 11:32 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/16 08:26, David Lang wrote:
On 24/03/2016 08:11, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine
on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard

Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.

Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.


That's precisely why a circular saw & sawboard s better.


My reasons we I had no use for a circular saw, but a plane looked
useful, so I went for the plane.

For some reason I've never liked hand held circular saws - I would rather
muddle through with a jigsaw :)


TBF, a jigsaw is crap for straight unless you plane it afterwards :D



whisky-dave[_2_] March 24th 16 11:43 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:48:22 UTC, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx


I used a rasp last time, took a while longer than perhaps a plane would have,
but I only needed a few mm's off, it was a relativley weak bathroom door rather than solid wood.

charles March 24th 16 11:44 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
In article om, bm
wrote:

"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/16 08:26, David Lang wrote:
On 24/03/2016 08:11, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , David Lang
wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's
fine on the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard

Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.

Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door
to use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off
the far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise
you can knock a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.

That's precisely why a circular saw & sawboard s better.


My reasons we I had no use for a circular saw, but a plane looked
useful, so I went for the plane.

For some reason I've never liked hand held circular saws - I would
rather muddle through with a jigsaw :)


TBF, a jigsaw is crap for straight unless you plane it afterwards :D


The obvious answer is the circular saw for bulk removal and the plane for
finishing off.

When we had out utility room rebuilt the new floor tiles meant the door
needed to be trimmed. Of course, the door had come from elsewhere hand had
a 2" extension on the bottom - held in with 4" nails.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

curious March 24th 16 11:51 AM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On Thursday, March 24, 2016 at 11:32:40 AM UTC, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Tim Watts wrote:
Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.


I suppose it depends on the door design, but planing across the grain
isn't usually the best way. And electric planes ain't the easiest of
things to get a perfect edge with either. A sharp circular saw up against
a bit of straight wood as a guide will give a near perfect cut along and
across the grain.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.


I learnt that on door #1 !


After that it was fine.


--
*The colder the X-ray table, the more of your body is required on it *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.


That's what I did on two occasions with no problems.

Tim Watts[_3_] March 24th 16 12:37 PM

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On 24/03/16 11:32, bm wrote:
"Tim Watts" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/16 08:26, David Lang wrote:
On 24/03/2016 08:11, Tim Watts wrote:
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine
on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard

Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.

Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.

That's precisely why a circular saw & sawboard s better.


My reasons we I had no use for a circular saw, but a plane looked
useful, so I went for the plane.

For some reason I've never liked hand held circular saws - I would rather
muddle through with a jigsaw :)


TBF, a jigsaw is crap for straight unless you plane it afterwards :D



I can get good long straight cuts - using a guide if necessary. Widest
blade helps (obviously using an actual "jigsaw" blade will be a road to
disaster for straight cuts).

Anyway the OP can make his choice - I hate circular saws (unless
stationary like a sliding combo mitre saw) but I can found a jigsaw an
invaluable tool and bearable for the very few straight cust I need that
can't be done with a handsaw or on a sliding saw.

Stuart Noble March 24th 16 12:54 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/2016 11:43, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:48:22 UTC, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx


I used a rasp last time, took a while longer than perhaps a plane would have,
but I only needed a few mm's off, it was a relativley weak bathroom door rather than solid wood.


The beauty of the circ saw method is that you can take off nothing at
all at one end and, say, 5mm at the other. Perfect cut every time.
Plenty of doors have been butchered over the years by plane and handsaw
merchants, and this is a way of straightening things up.

bm[_2_] March 24th 16 01:13 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 

"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/2016 11:43, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:48:22 UTC, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx


I used a rasp last time, took a while longer than perhaps a plane would
have,
but I only needed a few mm's off, it was a relativley weak bathroom door
rather than solid wood.


The beauty of the circ saw method is that you can take off nothing at all
at one end and, say, 5mm at the other. Perfect cut every time.
Plenty of doors have been butchered over the years by plane and handsaw
merchants, and this is a way of straightening things up.


I recently replaced 6 internal doors, whichever cowboys did them originally
didn't even bother to replace the bottom rails on 3, just open-bottomed
doors.



Dave Plowman (News) March 24th 16 01:50 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
You need a circular saw and a sawboard


Nowhere near as good IMO.


I've trimmed around 15 doors this year. Trust me,


No thanks.


it's quicker & more accurate.


But not as good for the OP who isnt likely to be able to work
out just how much should be removed. Much safer to do it
more gradually with an electric plane for someone like that.


Something else you've never used, obviously. Even with the work horizontal
and on a workbench, it's not easy to make a perfect job with a power
plane. Indeed, a hand plane is easier to use for the unskilled.

Something as large as a door is going to be even more difficult. Why not
just for once take the word of those who have actually done the job?

Doesn’t matter how quick it is for him.


--
*Husbands should come with instructions

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) March 24th 16 01:51 PM

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
For accuracy on door trimming the tool needs to be following a guide,


Doesn’t need to be accurate with the bottom of a door.


In your ramshackle place, perhaps not. Others might have higher standards.

--
*I never drink anything stronger than gin before breakfast *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Tricky Dicky[_4_] March 24th 16 02:22 PM

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Might as well put in my two penneth alternative which is to use a router. I have a tee-shaped guide which is simply clamped to the door with a suitable offset for the router base and simply run it along the guide, a sacrificial timber at the end of the pass prevents any splintering.

Richard

Jim March 24th 16 03:17 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
Tim Watts Wrote in message:
On 24/03/16 00:58, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
David Lang wrote:

A plane isn't the right tool to trim the bottom of a door, it's fine on
the edges. You need a circular saw and a sawboard
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Sawboard


Even a cheap circular saw will work fine with a sawboard.


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood clamped to the door to
use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will be fine - I've done it, on
several doors.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to come off the
far edge, but to plane from both edges to the middle, otherwise you can
knock a lump off the corner.

I learnt that on door #1 !

After that it was fine.


Indeed +1

Which fits with laying the door on each of its long edges and
planingin vertically down from each of the bottom corners
towards the middle (of the door bottom), watching your marked
line and squareness across the door thickness of the planing as
you progress....iyswim :-D

--
Jim K


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http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

David Lang March 24th 16 04:34 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
On 24/03/2016 13:13, bm wrote:
"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/2016 11:43, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:48:22 UTC, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx

I used a rasp last time, took a while longer than perhaps a plane would
have,
but I only needed a few mm's off, it was a relativley weak bathroom door
rather than solid wood.


The beauty of the circ saw method is that you can take off nothing at all
at one end and, say, 5mm at the other. Perfect cut every time.
Plenty of doors have been butchered over the years by plane and handsaw
merchants, and this is a way of straightening things up.


I recently replaced 6 internal doors, whichever cowboys did them originally
didn't even bother to replace the bottom rails on 3, just open-bottomed
doors.


I come across hem all the time.....


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman

Rod Speed March 24th 16 04:35 PM

Shaving off door bottom
 
Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Tim Watts wrote


Agreed about the saw, but a bit of straight wood
clamped to the door to use as a guide will do fine.


Not entirely true - an electric plane will
be fine - I've done it, on several doors.


Me too.

I suppose it depends on the door design,


Not much.

but planing across the grain isn't usually the best way.


You aren't planing across the grain with the bottom of a door and
you don’t need the best way with the bottom of a door anyway.

And electric planes ain't the easiest of
things to get a perfect edge with either.


You don’t need a perfect edge with the bottom of the door.

A sharp circular saw up against a bit of straight wood as a
guide will give a near perfect cut along and across the grain.


You don’t need a perfect cut with the bottom of the door.

Yes, a circular saw and a sawboard is certainly quicker when
you have those and are being paid to do that, but the plane
is a lot better when doing it for the first time because you
get to take a bit off at a time until the door work well and
there is no risk of taking off too much when its done in one
go. It isnt easy for someone like the OP who doesn’t even
know how to do it to work out how much to take off. With
a plane you can do it a bit at a time and stop when its enough.

The one thing with a plane on a door top/bottom is not to
come off the far edge, but to plane from both edges to the
middle, otherwise you can knock a lump off the corner.


I learnt that on door #1 !


After that it was fine.




Stuart Noble March 24th 16 05:01 PM

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You aren't planing across the grain with the bottom of a door


Oh dear.


Rod Speed March 24th 16 05:12 PM

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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...
On 24/03/2016 11:43, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:48:22 UTC, John Smith wrote:
Wife has fitted a new carpet in a room and now door won't shut as pile
is too thick. What's the best tool to take off a bit off the bottom - a
plane I presume but I've not used one for years so what's a reasonable
low cost one.

thx


I used a rasp last time, took a while longer than perhaps a plane would
have,
but I only needed a few mm's off, it was a relativley weak bathroom door
rather than solid wood.


The beauty of the circ saw method is that you can take off nothing at all
at one end and, say, 5mm at the other. Perfect cut every time.
Plenty of doors have been butchered over the years by plane and handsaw
merchants, and this is a way of straightening things up.


But the major downside for someone like the OP is that you
do need to be able to calculate how much needs to be taken
off and you've ****ed the door if you take off too much. The
big advantage with using a plane is that that approach is a
lot more forgiving so you are much less likely to **** the door.


Rod Speed March 24th 16 05:20 PM

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote


You need a circular saw and a sawboard


Nowhere near as good IMO.


I've trimmed around 15 doors this year. Trust me,


No thanks.


it's quicker & more accurate.


But not as good for the OP who isnt likely to be able to work
out just how much should be removed. Much safer to do it
more gradually with an electric plane for someone like that.


Something else you've never used, obviously.


There you go, face down in the mud, as always.

Even with the work horizontal and on a workbench,
it's not easy to make a perfect job with a power plane.


You don't need a perfect job with the
bottom of a ****ing door, ****wit.

Indeed, a hand plane is easier to use for the unskilled.


Bull**** for someone who has never used one before.

Something as large as a door is going to be even more difficult.


Nope, just have the door on one of the long edges and the bottom
vertical. Do it half at a time and turn the door over so its on the other
long side when you have done half the bottom and do the other half.

Why not just for once take the word of
those who have actually done the job?


Because I have done the ****ing job a lot more often
than you ever have and done it fine with an electric
plane and have enough of a clue to be able to realise
that someone like the OP isnt going to be able to
work out how much to take off with a circular saw
and is much safer doing it a bit at a time until the
door works fine, with an electric planer.

Doesn't matter how quick it is for him.



Rod Speed March 24th 16 05:21 PM

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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
For accuracy on door trimming the tool needs to be following a guide,


Doesn't need to be accurate with the bottom of a door.


reams of your desperate attempt at insults any 2 year old
could leave for dead flushed where it belongs, as always


bm[_2_] March 24th 16 05:24 PM

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"Stuart Noble" wrote in message
...

You aren't planing across the grain with the bottom of a door


Oh dear.


Yep, nothing more to be said.
Cept maybe - **** off Wodney.



bm[_2_] March 24th 16 05:30 PM

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"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
For accuracy on door trimming the tool needs to be following a guide,


Doesn't need to be accurate with the bottom of a door.


reams of your desperate attempt at insults any 2 year old
could leave for dead flushed where it belongs, as always


You snipped a bit there -

"In your ramshackle place, perhaps not. Others might have higher standards."

It's difficult enough to decipher your normal ****e, we need a clue FFS.



Dave Plowman (News) March 24th 16 05:40 PM

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In article ,
Rod Speed wrote:
but planing across the grain isn't usually the best way.


You aren't planing across the grain with the bottom of a door and
you don’t need the best way with the bottom of a door anyway.


Thanks for confirming you know less about doors than most things. Didn't
think this possible.

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Dave Plowman (News) March 24th 16 05:41 PM

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In article ,
Stuart Noble wrote:

You aren't planing across the grain with the bottom of a door


Oh dear.


Doors in his 'house' are obviously a bit of old rag or beads for the posh
bit.

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