On 29/02/2016 12:27, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:30:01 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Difference is moderate consumption of alcohol is unlikely to cause
health issues of any sort. But heavy use of it most likely will.

If you repeat something over and over and over again maybe you can make
it come true, eh, Dave?

Evidence suggests that moderate consumption of alcohol may well be good
for you.

Here's Harvard on the subject:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritio...ol-full-story/

Andy

On 01/03/2016 21:33, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 29/02/2016 12:27, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:30:01 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Difference is moderate consumption of alcohol is unlikely to cause
health issues of any sort. But heavy use of it most likely will.

If you repeat something over and over and over again maybe you can make
it come true, eh, Dave?

Evidence suggests that moderate consumption of alcohol may well be good
for you.

Here's Harvard on the subject:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritio...ol-full-story/

Sadly that one got debunked - the research underlying that piece has
been shown to be flawed. It hasn't gone as far as saying moderate
consumption (1-2 units/day) is bad though.

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On 01/03/2016 21:33, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 29/02/2016 12:27, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:30:01 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Difference is moderate consumption of alcohol is unlikely to cause
health issues of any sort. But heavy use of it most likely will.

If you repeat something over and over and over again maybe you can make
it come true, eh, Dave?

Evidence suggests that moderate consumption of alcohol may well be good
for you.

Here's Harvard on the subject:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritio...ol-full-story/

Sadly that one got debunked

No it did not. Over a HUNDRED studies did show a reduction
in the risk of cardiovascular disease with moderate drinking.

- the research underlying that piece has been shown to be flawed.

There wasnt just one piece of research.

It hasn't gone as far as saying moderate consumption (1-2 units/day) is
bad though.

And there is still a worthwhile reduction in risk
when you exclude those who stopped drinking
because of the health downsides with heavy
drinking.

On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 21:33:11 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

Evidence suggests that moderate consumption of alcohol may well be good
for you.

Here's Harvard on the subject:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritio...ol-full-story/

Andy

They say it's the full story but they've missed out the 3 most important
facts:

1. Men who drink are more confident in social surroundings and therefore
more attractive to women, who find confidence an attractive trait.

2. Alcohol makes fat, ugly women appear less fat and ugly - giving them a
better chance of scoring with more confident men.

3. Men and women who drink have a far more enjoyable night out and get
more sex than men and women who don't.

And only a fool believes otherwise.

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Cursitor Doom wrote:
They say it's the full story but they've missed out the 3 most important
facts:

1. Men who drink are more confident in social surroundings and therefore
more attractive to women, who find confidence an attractive trait.

It's certainly true that many who need alcohol to give them confidence end
up alcoholic.

2. Alcohol makes fat, ugly women appear less fat and ugly - giving them
a better chance of scoring with more confident men.

Yes - of course. Most men think women fancy a beer gut. Those who don't
must be lesbians.

3. Men and women who drink have a far more enjoyable night out and get
more sex than men and women who don't.

Do you really need to be under the influence of alcohol to enjoy the
company of the opposite sex? That's sad.

And only a fool believes otherwise.

How do you feel about those who prefer heroin or cocaine?

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Cursitor Doom wrote

They say it's the full story but they've missed out the 3 most important
facts:

1. Men who drink are more confident in social surroundings and therefore
more attractive to women, who find confidence an attractive trait.

It's certainly true that many who need alcohol
to give them confidence end up alcoholic.

That's another one straight from your arse.

And it isnt need either, it's just prefer.

2. Alcohol makes fat, ugly women appear less fat and ugly -
giving them a better chance of scoring with more confident men.

Yes - of course. Most men think women fancy
a beer gut. Those who don't must be lesbians.

Irrelevant to the point he was making.

3. Men and women who drink have a far more enjoyable
night out and get more sex than men and women who don't.

Do you really need to be under the influence of alcohol
to enjoy the company of the opposite sex? That's sad.

He said MORE enjoyable.

And only a fool believes otherwise.

How do you feel about those who prefer heroin or cocaine?

You don’t get the same result with those,
they aren't the social lubricant that alcohol is.

Caffeine certainly is and maybe even nicotine too.

So is food.

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Rod Speed wrote:
It's certainly true that many who need alcohol
to give them confidence end up alcoholic.

That's another one straight from your arse.

Keep on saying, Wodney, do some research and learn. It's not just my
opinion.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

It's certainly true that many who need alcohol
to give them confidence end up alcoholic.

That's another one straight from your arse.

Keep on saying, Wodney, do some research

Don’t need to, that particular question has been very
thoroughly researched for well over a century now.

It's not just my opinion.

It ain't about opinion, it is about what can be established
with rigorous scientific research. That claim can not be.

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:17:52 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

How do you feel about those who prefer heroin or cocaine?

None of my business. Since I've never tried either, I cannot have an
informed view on the matter. I suspect they're ****ing idiots, but my
suspicions alone are not sufficient grounds to lecture others about their
lifestyles which they're welcome to pursue so long as it doesn't
adversely affect me or others.

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Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 01:17:52 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

How do you feel about those who prefer heroin or cocaine?

None of my business. Since I've never tried either, I cannot have an
informed view on the matter. I suspect they're ****ing idiots, but my
suspicions alone are not sufficient grounds to lecture others about
their lifestyles which they're welcome to pursue so long as it doesn't
adversely affect me or others.

You seem happy enough to lecture on here that there are absolutely no
health issues with smoking and drinking as much as you want.

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On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 14:44:40 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You seem happy enough to lecture on here that there are absolutely no
health issues with smoking and drinking as much as you want.

Never made such a blanket statement! I'm merely pointing out that your
typical Leftie finger-wagging "one size fits all" approach does NOT apply
to all individuals and your Stalinist mindset is deeply flawed. I cannot
believe you have never personally met some heavy drinkers and smokers who
made it to a ripe old age.
All I'm saying is that some people have either the luck or the
constitution to be able to get away with it; some don't.
The only other thing I would add is that the most erudite and sagacious
individuals I have ever met have all, without exception, been what you
would label "alcoholics" - and they all made it into their 70s quite
comfortably. If you want to live beyond that and end your days in a care
home costing the health service a fortune whilst you're slowly
deliquescing in your own excrement, then good luck with that. It's not a
future that I for one aspire to, though.

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Vir Campestris wrote:
On 29/02/2016 12:27, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:30:01 +0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Difference is moderate consumption of alcohol is unlikely to cause
health issues of any sort. But heavy use of it most likely will.

If you repeat something over and over and over again maybe you can make
it come true, eh, Dave?

Evidence suggests that moderate consumption of alcohol may well be good
for you.

Here's Harvard on the subject:

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritio...ol-full-story/

I doubt many would argue that moderate use would do any harm - if not
positive good.

But the absolute ******** that drinking a bottle of spirits in one go for
breakfast wouldn't do any harm? If a moderate drinker tried it, it might
well kill him. And someone who did it on a regular basis, on the short
road to death.

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