Near me are a couple of lamp-posts on opposite sides of the road (busy
estate) which have some sort of camera device aiming at the oncoming
traffic. There are no additional boxes on the posts.

The cameras are about 1.5" high; 7" wide and about 8" deep. I think they
have 3 windows on the front.

I haven't seen any others so I have discounted traffic flow monitoring. Any
ideas?

DerbyBorn wrote:

Near me are a couple of lamp-posts on opposite sides of the road (busy
estate) which have some sort of camera device aiming at the oncoming
traffic. . Any ideas?

ANPR?

In article ,
Andy Burns writes:
DerbyBorn wrote:

Near me are a couple of lamp-posts on opposite sides of the road (busy
estate) which have some sort of camera device aiming at the oncoming
traffic. . Any ideas?

ANPR?

Sounds like it - the 3 windows are 2 for infrared LEDs, and one for
the camera lense. There are thousands of these, and it was their
roll-out which enabled the tax disc to be ditched.

Another new camera type being rolled out over last couple of years
is the new type of average speed camera. They point at a picture
frame painted on the road, and illuminated by a dedicated streetlamp
or LED spotlights. They raised £100,000 in fines on the A40 and
A406 North Circular Road in the first month of operation before the
signs were erected. They are being rolled out on many main roads in
London this year, and the Gatsos are being removed.

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In article ,
Andy Burns writes:
DerbyBorn wrote:

Near me are a couple of lamp-posts on opposite sides of the road (busy
estate) which have some sort of camera device aiming at the oncoming
traffic. . Any ideas?

ANPR?

Sounds like it - the 3 windows are 2 for infrared LEDs, and one for
the camera lense. There are thousands of these, and it was their
roll-out which enabled the tax disc to be ditched.

We don't have those and ditched our equivalent of the tax disc anyway.

The cop cars have what allowed the equivalent of
the tax disc to be ditched and allows the cops to
**** the driver of the car that fails the check over.

Another new camera type being rolled out over last couple of years
is the new type of average speed camera. They point at a picture
frame painted on the road, and illuminated by a dedicated streetlamp
or LED spotlights. They raised £100,000 in fines on the A40 and
A406 North Circular Road in the first month of operation before the
signs were erected. They are being rolled out on many main roads in
London this year, and the Gatsos are being removed.

I'm reliably informed Jay Leno commented to JC about remote automatic speed cameras or similar "we wouldn't have a problem with these in America, we'd just shoot them out". Wonder how protected they are against an airgun or a crossbow?

On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:47:14 -0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:

They raised £100,000 in fines on the A40 and A406 North Circular Road in
the first month of operation before the signs were erected.

Shirely, before the signs are in place and correct size, location,
colours etc, the "offences" recorded by the cameras are not
enforceable? Or did people just cough up without checking the
"evidence".

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Cheers
Dave.

On 21/02/2016 15:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:47:14 -0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:

They raised £100,000 in fines on the A40 and A406 North Circular Road in
the first month of operation before the signs were erected.

Shirely, before the signs are in place and correct size, location,
colours etc, the "offences" recorded by the cameras are not
enforceable? Or did people just cough up without checking the
"evidence".


As long as the speed limit signs are OK there is no requirement to make
speed traps visible. The signs are just to encourage you to drive
according to the law.

dennis@home wrote:

As long as the speed limit signs are OK there is no requirement to make
speed traps visible. The signs are just to encourage you to drive
according to the law.

There is (was?) a requirement to make them hi-viz if they wanted the
fine "income" to stay local, rather than get whisked off to central
government coffers ...

On Sun, 21 Feb 2016 16:04:18 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

They raised £100,000 in fines on the A40 and A406 North Circular
Road
in the first month of operation before the signs were erected.

Shirely, before the signs are in place and correct size, location,
colours etc, the "offences" recorded by the cameras are not
enforceable? Or did people just cough up without checking the
"evidence".

As long as the speed limit signs are OK there is no requirement to make
speed traps visible.

Unless they have changed the rules again single camera "gatso" type
devices or temporary/mobile cameras have to have speed camera signage
before them at specificed distances/sizes etc dependant on road and
camera sign and speed limit sign as well. The cameras themselves are
also supposed to be visible, which means the front and back have had
hi-viz stuck on them.

This is a new form of speed camera measuring average speed. Works
fine on motorway and or similar roads with no junctions, traffic
lights etc. People just pop cruise on at the specified speed and bowl
along.

But in a section of road with a nominal 40 mph limit and a set of
traffic lights that hold you up. If your average speed across those
lights and section of road is 40 mph you *must* have been exceeding
the speed limit. But they can't prove by how much (was it 2 mph over
all the way or 20 mph over for 50yds, the penalties are very
different), when (only sometime between your entry and exit times of
the road section or where (only the road section).

There must be more to this than meets the eye, some new offence?

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Cheers
Dave.

On 21/02/2016 16:04, dennis@home wrote:
On 21/02/2016 15:09, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 22:47:14 -0000 (UTC), Andrew Gabriel wrote:

They raised £100,000 in fines on the A40 and A406 North Circular Road in
the first month of operation before the signs were erected.

Shirely, before the signs are in place and correct size, location,
colours etc, the "offences" recorded by the cameras are not
enforceable? Or did people just cough up without checking the
"evidence".


As long as the speed limit signs are OK there is no requirement to make
speed traps visible. The signs are just to encourage you to drive
according to the law.

According to

http://www.speedcamerasuk.com/vector.htm

Did you know? Vectors cameras that are NOT yellow are normal ANPR
cameras. Only the yellow ones are used for speed enforcement.

They also say that other uses of Vector cameras include

Bus lane enforcement
€£Level crossings
€£Red light enforcement
€£Yellow box violations
€£Tolling
€£Access control
€£Congestion charging
€£Parking management


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Chris B News

DerbyBorn wrote:
Near me are a couple of lamp-posts on opposite sides of the road (busy
estate) which have some sort of camera device aiming at the oncoming
traffic. There are no additional boxes on the posts.

The cameras are about 1.5" high; 7" wide and about 8" deep. I think they
have 3 windows on the front.

I haven't seen any others so I have discounted traffic flow monitoring. Any
ideas?


Yes. A photo would be a huge help. ;-)

On 20/02/2016 18:44, DerbyBorn wrote:
Near me are a couple of lamp-posts on opposite sides of the road (busy
estate) which have some sort of camera device aiming at the oncoming
traffic. There are no additional boxes on the posts.

The cameras are about 1.5" high; 7" wide and about 8" deep. I think they
have 3 windows on the front.

I haven't seen any others so I have discounted traffic flow monitoring. Any
ideas?


ANPR.

Orwellian present?

It's a speedspike camera.

On 02/09/2016 21:28, wrote:
It's a speedspike camera.

There are several types of cameras on lamp posts..

council run CCTV
Police run CCTV
ANPR run by the DVLA
ANPR run by the counter terrorism unit
Police run speed traps (they can be hidden).
there used to be council run speed traps but they haven't got any
revenue from them for years so they have gone.
Council run parking cameras.
Council run bus lane cameras.
Lots of other organisations can also put cameras on lamp posts and other
poles including the AA and RAC.