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The other day when installing an extractor fan, I needed a 5" hole
though the wall. The wall in question was made up from several layers of
cladding and ply, but was basically a stud wall. Hence, I stuck a 5"
holesaw on my combi drill, romped up the ladder, and went at it.

Having found that I was making rather slow progress, it was also cold
and the wind was blowing, and I had nearly twisted my wrist twice when
the saw snagged, I decided it was time to go and get big FO drill with a
clutch.

I then wasted 30 mins looking for my core drill. It was not where it
should be, or anywhere else likely. Phoned the last person I lent it to,
he had brought it back. Hmmmm. In the end I got out the SDS, and found a
rare use for the normal chuck adaptor in it.

So tonight I though I would go have another look for it in the workshop
- looked on the floor under the bottom tool shelf (got down on my hands
and knees with a torch this time). Nope, definitely not there. Then I
was about to get up, when I looked at a big yellow and black bag on the
bottom shelf that I did not recognise immediately. Oh yes, one core
drill and all the cores!

I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

--
Cheers,

John.

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John Rumm wrote:
The other day when installing an extractor fan, I needed a 5" hole
though the wall. The wall in question was made up from several layers of
cladding and ply, but was basically a stud wall. Hence, I stuck a 5"
holesaw on my combi drill, romped up the ladder, and went at it.

Having found that I was making rather slow progress, it was also cold
and the wind was blowing, and I had nearly twisted my wrist twice when
the saw snagged, I decided it was time to go and get big FO drill with a
clutch.

I then wasted 30 mins looking for my core drill. It was not where it
should be, or anywhere else likely. Phoned the last person I lent it to,
he had brought it back. Hmmmm. In the end I got out the SDS, and found a
rare use for the normal chuck adaptor in it.

So tonight I though I would go have another look for it in the workshop
- looked on the floor under the bottom tool shelf (got down on my hands
and knees with a torch this time). Nope, definitely not there. Then I
was about to get up, when I looked at a big yellow and black bag on the
bottom shelf that I did not recognise immediately. Oh yes, one core
drill and all the cores!

I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

It is comforting to know that I'm not the only one to do this soft of thing.

Another thing that catches me out is I have a number of chesterman
flexible steel rules 300mm x 12mm x less than 1mm thick which get
scattered around the desk, bench etc where I'm working and they just
disappear.
Invariably they manage to get lodged at an angle so that the only view
is the 1 x300mm one and I just don't see it for ages.

Bob

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On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 19:49:45 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

snip


I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Funny isn't it, how we get used to something being a certain way and
then don't recognise any changes.

I wonder how many of us have accidentally called our second wife by
the name of the first? (And you could imagine all the times when that
could be *really* bad / awkward). ;-)

And as you say, in the workshop, even though I may not have used
something for a fair while can't really remember since the last
reorganisation / tidy-up where it is, some sort of sixth sense draws
me (us?) to where it is? We can probably see where it isn't, so by
definition, it must be somewhere else (or actually where we thought it
was in the first place but just in a different container). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think,
"What the hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
The other day when installing an extractor fan, I needed a 5" hole though
the wall. The wall in question was made up from several layers of cladding
and ply, but was basically a stud wall. Hence, I stuck a 5" holesaw on my
combi drill, romped up the ladder, and went at it.

Having found that I was making rather slow progress, it was also cold and
the wind was blowing, and I had nearly twisted my wrist twice when the saw
snagged, I decided it was time to go and get big FO drill with a clutch.

I then wasted 30 mins looking for my core drill. It was not where it
should be, or anywhere else likely. Phoned the last person I lent it to,
he had brought it back. Hmmmm. In the end I got out the SDS, and found a
rare use for the normal chuck adaptor in it.

So tonight I though I would go have another look for it in the workshop -
looked on the floor under the bottom tool shelf (got down on my hands and
knees with a torch this time). Nope, definitely not there. Then I was
about to get up, when I looked at a big yellow and black bag on the bottom
shelf that I did not recognise immediately. Oh yes, one core drill and all
the cores!

I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

What really annoys me is when I go to the shed for something, I know I have
one but it's nowhere to be found.
I then go and buy another one. Much later, it turns up when I'm looking for
something else.

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"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
The other day when installing an extractor fan, I needed a 5" hole though
the wall. The wall in question was made up from several layers of cladding
and ply, but was basically a stud wall. Hence, I stuck a 5" holesaw on my
combi drill, romped up the ladder, and went at it.

Having found that I was making rather slow progress, it was also cold and
the wind was blowing, and I had nearly twisted my wrist twice when the saw
snagged, I decided it was time to go and get big FO drill with a clutch.

I then wasted 30 mins looking for my core drill. It was not where it
should be, or anywhere else likely. Phoned the last person I lent it to,
he had brought it back. Hmmmm. In the end I got out the SDS, and found a
rare use for the normal chuck adaptor in it.

So tonight I though I would go have another look for it in the workshop -
looked on the floor under the bottom tool shelf (got down on my hands and
knees with a torch this time). Nope, definitely not there. Then I was
about to get up, when I looked at a big yellow and black bag on the bottom
shelf that I did not recognise immediately. Oh yes, one core drill and all
the cores!

I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

That's Alzheimer's for you.

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On 01/02/16 07:30, Blanco wrote:


"John Rumm" wrote in message
...
The other day when installing an extractor fan, I needed a 5" hole
though the wall. The wall in question was made up from several layers
of cladding and ply, but was basically a stud wall. Hence, I stuck a
5" holesaw on my combi drill, romped up the ladder, and went at it.

Having found that I was making rather slow progress, it was also cold
and the wind was blowing, and I had nearly twisted my wrist twice when
the saw snagged, I decided it was time to go and get big FO drill with
a clutch.

I then wasted 30 mins looking for my core drill. It was not where it
should be, or anywhere else likely. Phoned the last person I lent it
to, he had brought it back. Hmmmm. In the end I got out the SDS, and
found a rare use for the normal chuck adaptor in it.

So tonight I though I would go have another look for it in the
workshop - looked on the floor under the bottom tool shelf (got down
on my hands and knees with a torch this time). Nope, definitely not
there. Then I was about to get up, when I looked at a big yellow and
black bag on the bottom shelf that I did not recognise immediately. Oh
yes, one core drill and all the cores!

I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

That's Alzheimer's for you.

You are Rod speedo and I claim my vegamite


--
Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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On 31/01/2016 23:01, bm wrote:
What really annoys me is when I go to the shed for something, I know I have
one but it's nowhere to be found.
I then go and buy another one. Much later, it turns up when I'm looking for
something else.

.... and when you finish using the new one and put it away you find the
original in the same place.

--
Mike Clarke

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On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think,
"What the hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always* got
one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in a
shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

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On 01/02/16 10:47, Huge wrote:
On 2016-02-01, Mike Clarke wrote:
On 31/01/2016 23:01, bm wrote:
What really annoys me is when I go to the shed for something, I know I have
one but it's nowhere to be found.
I then go and buy another one. Much later, it turns up when I'm looking for
something else.

... and when you finish using the new one and put it away you find the
original in the same place.

BTDT.

Although I never did find my plastic hammer. The roofers did.


When I demolished my house I found the big tube of PVA I had left in a
wall cavity that I covered in plasterboard...

--
"I am inclined to tell the truth and dislike people who lie consistently.
This makes me unfit for the company of people of a Left persuasion, and
all women"

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On Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:10:20 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 19:49:45 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

snip


I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Funny isn't it, how we get used to something being a certain way and
then don't recognise any changes.

I wonder how many of us have accidentally called our second wife by
the name of the first? (And you could imagine all the times when that
could be *really* bad / awkward). ;-)

I can categorically promise I have never done that. I have on a couple
of occasions called SWMBO "Mum" though (there might be a time when that
isn't really bad / awkward, but I haven't found one yet).

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On Sunday, 31 January 2016 19:49:37 UTC, John Rumm wrote:
The other day when installing an extractor fan, I needed a 5" hole
though the wall. The wall in question was made up from several layers of
cladding and ply, but was basically a stud wall. Hence, I stuck a 5"
holesaw on my combi drill, romped up the ladder, and went at it.

Having found that I was making rather slow progress, it was also cold
and the wind was blowing, and I had nearly twisted my wrist twice when
the saw snagged, I decided it was time to go and get big FO drill with a
clutch.

I then wasted 30 mins looking for my core drill. It was not where it
should be, or anywhere else likely. Phoned the last person I lent it to,
he had brought it back. Hmmmm. In the end I got out the SDS, and found a
rare use for the normal chuck adaptor in it.

So tonight I though I would go have another look for it in the workshop
- looked on the floor under the bottom tool shelf (got down on my hands
and knees with a torch this time). Nope, definitely not there. Then I
was about to get up, when I looked at a big yellow and black bag on the
bottom shelf that I did not recognise immediately. Oh yes, one core
drill and all the cores!

I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Fed up with being unable to find tape measures, I bought another 9. I still often can't find one


NT

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On 2/1/2016 8:26 AM, wrote:

Fed up with being unable to find tape measures, I bought another 9. I still often can't find one

Scissors. I buy extra, but they still disappear.

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In message ,
writes

Fed up with being unable to find tape measures, I bought another 9. I
still often can't find one

Often a freebie with an ITS London order:-)

The one I can always find is kept in the house by senior management!

--
Tim Lamb

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On 01/02/16 15:48, Chris French wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2016-02-01, newshound wrote:
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think,
"What the hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always* got
one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in a
shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..


--
"It is an established fact to 97% confidence limits than left wing
conspirators see right wing conspiracies everywhere"

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In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 01/02/16 15:48, Chris French wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2016-02-01, newshound wrote:
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was
in broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for
it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think, "What the
hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always*
got one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in
a shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

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On 1 Feb 2016 12:23:51 GMT, Huge wrote:


What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

On a visit to the Pentagon myself and three BAe engineers went in for
a meeting, visited several offices and came out again. The car didn't
seem to be where we expected so I said "How can you lose a Green Ford
(whatever)" to which engineer No1 said - "no it was a blue Chrysler"
and engineer No2 said "no that was yesterday - today was a red Dodge".
Engineer No3 couldnt remember but was adamant it wasn't a Green Ford,
a blue Chrysler or a red Dodge.

The key didn't help as it was an anonymouse one. We then resorted to
wondering around pressing the button on the key fob in the hope
something beeped. After a bit it became clear we were attracting an
audience of large gentlemen with guns. Deciding it was better to ask
for help before being shot and having no female with us to be sent to
do the asking we gave in and declared we had lost our car.

"Which car park was it in" said gunman1 "The only one - we didn't
get a choice" said we. " There are 5 car parks" said gunman2, "one for
each door. Which door did you go in?" "The main one" said we. "There
are 5 main doors - one in each wing". Lots of looking at each other
and shrugging ensued. Eventually gunman 1 and 3 agreed to take us to
each car park in turn (so their mates wouldn't shoot us as we wandered
around pressing the key fob.). 2 hours later we found it (and it was
a green Ford).

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:18:36 -0800 (PST), Martin Bonner
wrote:

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:10:20 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 19:49:45 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

snip


I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Funny isn't it, how we get used to something being a certain way and
then don't recognise any changes.

I wonder how many of us have accidentally called our second wife by
the name of the first? (And you could imagine all the times when that
could be *really* bad / awkward). ;-)

I can categorically promise I have never done that.

How long were you with the first Mrs Bonner though (IIMA)? My first
was 7 years, this one 27 so far (I think)?

I have on a couple
of occasions called SWMBO "Mum" though

Now I don't think I've done that. I did call a complete stranger 'Mum'
in the supermarket the other day (doing some shopping for one of her
friends) and that only because mine swapped places with (potentially)
someone else's when my back was turned. ;-)

(there might be a time when that
isn't really bad / awkward, but I haven't found one yet).

Luckily, that was just embarrassing / funny for us.

Cheers, T i m

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Huge Wrote in message:
On 2016-02-01, newshound wrote:
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think,
"What the hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always* got
one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in a
shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).
--
Chris French


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/

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On Monday, 1 February 2016 17:11:16 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:18:36 -0800 (PST), Martin Bonner
wrote:

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:10:20 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I wonder how many of us have accidentally called our second wife by
the name of the first? (And you could imagine all the times when that
could be *really* bad / awkward). ;-)

I can categorically promise I have never done that.

How long were you with the first Mrs Bonner though (IIMA)? My first
was 7 years, this one 27 so far (I think)?

I have been with the first Mrs Bonner (or functional equivalent) for 31
years so far (no previous girlfriend could stand me for more than six
months).

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On 01/02/16 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 01/02/16 15:48, Chris French wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2016-02-01, newshound wrote:
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was
in broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for
it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think, "What the
hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always*
got one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in
a shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!

My phone makes p0hine calls. Thats all it does.


--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

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On 2/1/2016 10:36 AM, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Tim Lamb
wrote:

In message ,
writes

Fed up with being unable to find tape measures, I bought another 9. I
still often can't find one

Often a freebie with an ITS London order:-)

The one I can always find is kept in the house by senior management!

Thing to do with tape measures is to have one in each drawer where you
might reasonably want one. But label each one, so it can make its way
back when it strays: office, utility room, etc.

Trouble is even the permanent marker stuff seems to rub off after a
while.

I use a Brother label maker, with a narrow ribbon.

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On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

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On 01/02/16 17:33, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

If you don't have a smart phone, a tablet, or a surface and you own a
car, and you can read a map, its amazing what you don't need.

--
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

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On 01/02/2016 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/02/16 17:33, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

If you don't have a smart phone, a tablet, or a surface and you own a
car, and you can read a map, its amazing what you don't need.


How does map reading help you find your car amongst lots of others in a
big car park which is what the thread was about? Do you have maps of car
parks or do you draw one when you park?

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/02/16 17:33, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

If you don't have a smart phone, a tablet, or a surface and you own a
car, and you can read a map, its amazing what you don't need.

a map won't necessarily help you find your car in a car park

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 08:18:25 -0800 (PST), Martin Bonner
wrote:

On Monday, 1 February 2016 17:11:16 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 05:18:36 -0800 (PST), Martin Bonner
wrote:

On Sunday, 31 January 2016 22:10:20 UTC+1, T i m wrote:
I wonder how many of us have accidentally called our second wife by
the name of the first? (And you could imagine all the times when that
could be *really* bad / awkward). ;-)

I can categorically promise I have never done that.

How long were you with the first Mrs Bonner though (IIMA)? My first
was 7 years, this one 27 so far (I think)?

I have been with the first Mrs Bonner (or functional equivalent) for 31
years so far (no previous girlfriend could stand me for more than six
months).

Ah, then that explains your comment. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

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On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 17:38:12 +0000, dennis@home
wrote:



How does map reading help you find your car amongst lots of others in a
big car park which is what the thread was about? Do you have maps of car
parks or do you draw one when you park?


You leave the map on the dashboard top, it will be the only car with
one :-).

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On 01/02/16 17:38, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 17:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/02/16 17:33, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

If you don't have a smart phone, a tablet, or a surface and you own a
car, and you can read a map, its amazing what you don't need.


How does map reading help you find your car amongst lots of others in a
big car park which is what the thread was about? Do you have maps of car
parks or do you draw one when you park?

No, that's all about owning your own car.

Little things like actually remembering where you left -it - you know
like you used to do before you had a 'stupid phone'* help.


*stupid phone. A phone designed to make stupid people feel smart. See
also 'Apple'.

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On 01/02/16 17:47, charles wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/02/16 17:33, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

If you don't have a smart phone, a tablet, or a surface and you own a
car, and you can read a map, its amazing what you don't need.

a map won't necessarily help you find your car in a car park

Never said it did, it just extends the range of technology you don't need.

I had an argument with a technophile friend. Full of himself and his
gadgets 'a satnav will always tell you how to get there better than a map'

'Possibly, but it doesn't help me decide where I want to go, does it?'



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On 01/02/16 17:49, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

On 01/02/16 17:33, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

If you don't have a smart phone, a tablet, or a surface and you own a
car, and you can read a map, its amazing what you don't need.

Well quite. I just got a new phone for £25. It has a 2Mpx camera, but
only because I couldn't get one without.


I did. It cost me £19.95 Nokia 105. You can get them for even less.




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On 01/02/16 18:08, Peter Parry wrote:
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 17:38:12 +0000, dennis@home
wrote:



How does map reading help you find your car amongst lots of others in a
big car park which is what the thread was about? Do you have maps of car
parks or do you draw one when you park?


You leave the map on the dashboard top, it will be the only car with
one :-).


Well I think that deserves a prize for lateral thinking.


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On 01/02/2016 19:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/02/16 17:38, dennis@home wrote:

8

How does map reading help you find your car amongst lots of others in a
big car park which is what the thread was about? Do you have maps of car
parks or do you draw one when you park?

No, that's all about owning your own car.

So your not going to try and explain what maps are and how to use one then?

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"newshound" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think,
"What the hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere with
the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back window of
his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly coloured cuddly
toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always* got one for his hire
cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in a shopping mall car park
with about a hundred other identical cars.

Nowadays I take a photo of it with the phone camera.
And do that when I am driving someone else's car too.

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"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2016-02-01, newshound wrote:
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think,
"What the hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always* got
one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in a
shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

Makes a lot more sense to take a photo of it with the phone now.

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On 01/02/16 20:08, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 19:37, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/02/16 17:38, dennis@home wrote:

8

How does map reading help you find your car amongst lots of others in a
big car park which is what the thread was about? Do you have maps of car
parks or do you draw one when you park?

No, that's all about owning your own car.

So your not going to try and explain what maps are and how to use one then?

I thunk dennis, that its one of those sort of adult things that you have
to have a certain amount of je ne sais quoi to understand.

And you haven't.


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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 01/02/16 15:48, Chris French wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2016-02-01, newshound wrote:
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was in
broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think,
"What the hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always* got
one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in a
shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

Another good reason to have at least a basic camera in the phone.

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
...
On 01/02/16 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher
wrote:
On 01/02/16 15:48, Chris French wrote:
Huge Wrote in message:
On 2016-02-01, newshound wrote:
On 31/01/2016 22:59, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
John Rumm writes:
I forgot that last time I used it, the zip on the weedy bag it was
in broke, and I had been organized enough to order a better bag for
it!

Another variation... Flying off somewhere and remember at the last
minute that your check-in bag was broken and you need a new one.
Whizz out and get it, pack and off to the airport. Once you've
landed you arrive at the luggage carousel only to think, "What the
hell did that new bag I just bought look like?"


I was once at a conference in the USA and I hitched a ride somewhere
with the (very experienced) Brit who had organised it. In the back
window of his hire car he had a particularly absurd and brightly
coloured cuddly toy. When I asked him about it, he said he *always*
got one for his hire cars abroad. There's nothing worse than being in
a shopping mall car park with about a hundred other identical cars.

What a brilliant idea. I went into a mall in Rochester, NY, came out
of a different door to the one I went in and couldn't find my hire
car. I didn't even know what make, model or colour it was.

Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!

My phone makes p0hine calls. Thats all it does.

More fool you. Its also handy to take a
quick photo instead of taking notes etc.

Also handy to be able to do a quick voice
recording in the phone too instead of
taking notes when a photo wont work.

And to take a note into the phone when neither will do.

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"dennis@home" wrote in message
b.com...
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the location
too.

Not accurate down to the car. You need the photo too.

Very handy to get to roughly where the car is and start looking at
individual cars tho.

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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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On 01/02/16 17:33, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/02/2016 16:06, charles wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher


Nowadays, I take a photo of the car (with reg plate).

yebbut I keep my camera in the car..

use your phone!


If you have a recent smart phone you can use the GPS to mark the
location too.

If you don't have a smart phone, a tablet, or a surface and you own a car,
and you can read a map, its amazing what you don't need.

Hell of a lot more convenient to have it all in the phone.