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Radio controlled clock an hour fast
In message s.com,
John writes replying to Chris Hogg , John wrote: me wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 +0000, Chris French I also have a Lidl RC clock that gets it's time signal from Frankfurt. It's an Auriol IAN 100706. Big flat round face, two rectangular windows, wall-hanging, displays time, day, date, week no., temperature and moon phase. Yours may be different. Somewhere in the instructions or set-up routine there's an option to set the time zone. Just found whe page 9. As they say, when all else fails, read the instructions. :-) -- Chris There are hundreds of these being sold from today - and they're all wrong by an hour. The intructions for this clock make no mention of any means of adjusting it by an hour, and Lidl themselves say they're getting loads of complaints - but have no answer beyond a refund. They're either very stupid or just assume their customers are stupid enough to put up with defective clocks. I assume that they were supposed to be UK specific ones, and they cocked up somewhere. I'm mostly just amused by it :-) -- Chris French |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On 21/12/2015 19:15, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote: On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote: The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason? Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly. That's illogical. Farmers work whenever it's light. The number on the clock is irrelevant. Have a look at 'Debates on reform' at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Summer_Time -- F |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. You might. Parliament didn't. 366 votes to 81. Since when has our government done anything sensible? When they pulled the plug on your benefits. The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't. Corse that isn't true of fools like Farage eh ? |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On 21/12/2015 19:16, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote: On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote: The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason? Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly. Since when did Scots farmers outnumber everyone else in the UK? They don't but, like a good number of Scots, they tend to exercise their vocal chords quite vigorously. Devolution, referendum anybody? -- F |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On 21/12/2015 12:06, Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) Going off at a tangent... Let us contemplate the idea that Scotland becomes independent, or despite not being fully independent gained control over their time zone. They then decide to shift their time zone differently to England and Wales. But the MSF transmitter is in England. Would there be vast numbers of radio-controlled clocks appearing on eBay? With "Item located in Kirkcaldy, Dundee, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow, ..." I can't think of a obvious technical solution unless the clocks are switchable between time sources (as some are). Even then, the switch I have seen is between existing sources - not some new fangled one on a different frequency. -- Rod |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
"Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Chris B writes On 21/12/2015 12:06, Chris French wrote: A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) I have bought 3 from Lidl over the years and they all have had the ability to set the displayed time as +/- 1, 2 or 3 hours. Try playing with the menus or if all else fails try google for the exact type - you will probably find the info. There are no menus, googling it up produces no results. Manual is here is any one thinks I'm not reading them correctly. http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/...lsp/hs.xsl/pro duct.html?id=140798043&rdeLocaleAttr=en&title=RADI O-CONTROLLED%20WALL%20C LOCK My reading of that is that you can use the manual time setting to move the time forward 1 minute at a time and that that offset will be used when it acquires the radio time. I think Lidl have cocked up :-) I find it hard to believe that krauts could **** up as spectacularly as that. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:19:56 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:
On 21/12/2015 19:15, Mr Macaw wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote: On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote: The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason? Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly. That's illogical. Farmers work whenever it's light. The number on the clock is irrelevant. Have a look at 'Debates on reform' at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Summer_Time Looks like most people are in favour. -- Question: Are there too many immigrants in Britain? 17% said yes, 11% said no, 72% said "I am not understanding the question please." |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:20:27 -0000, Phucker ****er wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. You might. Parliament didn't. 366 votes to 81. Since when has our government done anything sensible? When they pulled the plug on your benefits. No they didn't. The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't. Corse that isn't true of fools like Farage eh ? We don't know, because our ****ed up voting system the Conservatives have fiddled means that they got THREE TIMES more votes than the SNP, yet a FIFTIETH of the seats. -- Question: Are there too many immigrants in Britain? 17% said yes, 11% said no, 72% said "I am not understanding the question please." |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:22:24 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote:
On 21/12/2015 19:16, Mr Macaw wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 18:19:32 -0000, F news@nowhere wrote: On 21/12/2015 12:28, Mr Macaw wrote: The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason? Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly. Since when did Scots farmers outnumber everyone else in the UK? They don't but, like a good number of Scots, they tend to exercise their vocal chords quite vigorously. Hey guess what? You don't have to listen to complaints! The government oughta just tell them to sod off. Democracy is about majority rule, and farmers are not the majority. Devolution, referendum anybody? What? Fairness in politics? -- If people from Poland are called Poles, why aren't people from Holland called Holes? |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
"Phucker ****er" wrote in message ...
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Radio controlled clock an hour fast
"John" wrote in message roups.com... replying to Chris Hogg , John wrote: me wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 +0000, Chris French I also have a Lidl RC clock that gets it's time signal from Frankfurt. It's an Auriol IAN 100706. Big flat round face, two rectangular windows, wall-hanging, displays time, day, date, week no., temperature and moon phase. Yours may be different. Somewhere in the instructions or set-up routine there's an option to set the time zone. Just found whe page 9. As they say, when all else fails, read the instructions. :-) There are hundreds of these being sold from today - and they're all wrong by an hour. The intructions for this clock make no mention of any means of adjusting it by an hour, and Lidl themselves say they're getting loads of complaints - but have no answer beyond a refund. They're either very stupid or just assume their customers are stupid enough to put up with defective clocks. Or someone ****ed up on what got shipped to the UK to be sold there. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
polygonum wrote:
Going off at a tangent... NWWT :-) Let us contemplate the idea that Scotland becomes independent, or despite not being fully independent gained control over their time zone. They then decide to shift their time zone differently to England and Wales. But the MSF transmitter is in England. Would there be vast numbers of radio-controlled clocks appearing on eBay? With "Item located in Kirkcaldy, Dundee, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow, ..." I can't think of a obvious technical solution unless the clocks are switchable between time sources (as some are). Even then, the switch I have seen is between existing sources - not some new fangled one on a different frequency. I seems to recall hearing about r-c clocks that you can adjust plus or minus an hour (or several hours). That would be OK if the new time zone was an exact number of hours different, and changed summer/winter time on the same dates. The Scots would be mad to do anything else. My preference would be for the UK to shift to CET. Without the Scots, if necessary. -- Mike Barnes Cheshire, England |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:00:37 -0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Adrian escribió: Feel free to ask for an explanation if you don't understand the difference. Thank **** my killfile picked up PHucker's latest morph. Clearly not, as you're in a discussion about me. -- If the English language made any sense, lackadaisical would have something to do with a shortage of flowers. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:38:49 -0000, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 +0000, Chris French wrote: A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) I also have a Lidl RC clock that gets it's time signal from Frankfurt. It's an Auriol IAN 100706. Big flat round face, two rectangular windows, wall-hanging, displays time, day, date, week no., temperature and moon phase. Yours may be different. Somewhere in the instructions or set-up routine there's an option to set the time zone. Just found whe page 9. As they say, when all else fails, read the instructions. :-) ^W^W^W Get a bigger hammer. -- What has four legs, is big, green, fuzzy, and if it fell out of a tree would kill you? A pool table. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:05:15 -0000, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Chris French wrote: A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) I'd be amazed if it's not possible to switch it to GMT. Lidl seem to manage to sell electrical stuff with UK plugs on them. ;-) What happened to the days when people knew how to fit their own plugs? -- I'm not a vegetarian because I love animals. It's because I hate plants. |
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On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:27:30 -0000, Mike Barnes wrote:
polygonum wrote: Going off at a tangent... NWWT :-) Let us contemplate the idea that Scotland becomes independent, or despite not being fully independent gained control over their time zone. They then decide to shift their time zone differently to England and Wales. But the MSF transmitter is in England. Would there be vast numbers of radio-controlled clocks appearing on eBay? With "Item located in Kirkcaldy, Dundee, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow, ..." I can't think of a obvious technical solution unless the clocks are switchable between time sources (as some are). Even then, the switch I have seen is between existing sources - not some new fangled one on a different frequency. I seems to recall hearing about r-c clocks that you can adjust plus or minus an hour (or several hours). That would be OK if the new time zone was an exact number of hours different, and changed summer/winter time on the same dates. The Scots would be mad to do anything else. My preference would be for the UK to shift to CET. Without the Scots, if necessary. You'd get a tectonic rift along Hadrian's Wall, are you sure you want to go ahead with this? -- Death is the number 1 killer in the world. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:20:27 -0000, Phucker ****er wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. You might. Parliament didn't. 366 votes to 81. Since when has our government done anything sensible? When they pulled the plug on your benefits. No they didn't. The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't. Corse that isn't true of fools like Farage eh ? We don't know, Yes we do. because our ****ed up voting system the Conservatives have fiddled means that they got THREE TIMES more votes than the SNP, yet a FIFTIETH of the seats. Not relevant to whether Farage is one of those you object to taking up politics. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter. If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates you might find useful to remember. 1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are back home by then |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:47:58 -0000, Phucker ****er wrote:
"Mr Macaw" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 19:20:27 -0000, Phucker ****er wrote: "Mr Macaw" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:40:31 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:28:18 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. You might. Parliament didn't. 366 votes to 81. Since when has our government done anything sensible? When they pulled the plug on your benefits. No they didn't. The problem is the type of power hungry morons who like to take up politics are precisely the type of people that shouldn't. Corse that isn't true of fools like Farage eh ? We don't know, Yes we do. Don't interrupt Rod, or you'll be deleted again. I do however find it amusing you change name every time you think I won't talk to you anymore. Is this a crush or what? I thought there were no poofters in Australia? because our ****ed up voting system the Conservatives have fiddled means that they got THREE TIMES more votes than the SNP, yet a FIFTIETH of the seats. Not relevant to whether Farage is one of those you object to taking up politics. His policies are FAR better than other parties. Except the BNP of course. -- Before you set out on a journey, ring your local radio station and say there's a teerrible congestion on your road. Everybody avoids it and it's clear for you! -- Jack Dee |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter. If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates you might find useful to remember. 1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are back home by then Why let kids ruin it for the rest of us? Especially as they're taken to school by car nowadays anyway. Oh and they've invented streetlamps by the way. -- Alfred Hitchcock didn't have a belly button. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter. If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates you might find useful to remember. 1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are back home by then Yes, and they could have light when they went out to play, which is just, if not more, likely to cause them to get run over. -- What animal has genitals on its back? A police horse. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 20:55:21 -0000, Phil L wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:25:41 -0000, Adrian wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:14:02 +0000, Mr Macaw wrote: It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter. If you're going to blame politicians, then there's three different dates you might find useful to remember. 1916, when it was first introduced. 1966, when the start of a trial saw the UK move to GMT+1 all year. 1970, when the House of Commons reviewed the trial and voted overwhelmingly to go back to the hour change. But it still wouldn't be right all year, because Germany has an hour clock change in autumn and spring, too. The 1966 thing is what we need. Summer doesn't matter what time it is, there's loads of light. Winter has not enough light, particularly in the evening. So we want the clocks FORWARDS not backwards in winter. Might aswell leave them forwards as summer doesn't matter then we don't have to bother changing the clocks. And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are back home by then But but but, we have those pesky 20mph limits, it's impossible to kill people on the road.... -- What animal has genitals on its back? A police horse. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
... In article , F news@nowhere wrote: Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason? Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly. Do their cows tell the time, then? They know when to go to sleep - at pasture bedtime -- Adam |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
In message , Chris French
writes In message , Mathew Newton writes On Monday, 21 December 2015 13:40:41 UTC, Chris French wrote: I think Lidl have cocked up :-) It seems that way! Could you carefully remove the hour hand and refit it an hour previous? It might be a keyed shaft to ease assembly (no calibration) however if it is just a splined/interference shaft you might be okay. Quite possibly, but I've got better things to do right now. Well, as it happens, I was sat with the clock nearby, and I thought I've nothing to lose by having a poke about. The front came off easily , secured with 4 sprung clips. I pulled off the second hand, but the main hands seem to be on a hexagonal shaft. They wouldn't easily come off anyway. On a whim I just moved the hands back to 11 o'clock and set it off again. Low and behold it now shows the correct time :-) Actually the minute hand is about 1/4 minute off, but I'm sure I can tweak that if it bothers me. Presumably that is how they should have been sold. -- Chris French |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On 21/12/2015 12:06, Chris French wrote:
A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) There is a setting on both my lidl clocks to set the offset from the German time signal. RTFM to see how to set it as I doubt that yours doesn't also have a setting. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On 21/12/2015 20:27, Mike Barnes wrote:
polygonum wrote: Going off at a tangent... NWWT :-) Let us contemplate the idea that Scotland becomes independent, or despite not being fully independent gained control over their time zone. They then decide to shift their time zone differently to England and Wales. But the MSF transmitter is in England. Would there be vast numbers of radio-controlled clocks appearing on eBay? With "Item located in Kirkcaldy, Dundee, Edinburgh, Aberdeen, Glasgow, ..." I can't think of a obvious technical solution unless the clocks are switchable between time sources (as some are). Even then, the switch I have seen is between existing sources - not some new fangled one on a different frequency. I seems to recall hearing about r-c clocks that you can adjust plus or minus an hour (or several hours). That would be OK if the new time zone was an exact number of hours different, and changed summer/winter time on the same dates. The Scots would be mad to do anything else. My preference would be for the UK to shift to CET. Without the Scots, if necessary. I am imagining Scotland choosing no summer/winter change, changing on different dates, doubled change, or something else that can't ready be handled by the existing simplistic "which transmitter" and "extra hour/minus hour" mechanisms. -- Rod |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French wrote: A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter. ???? Do they change the earth rotation |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
In message , pamela
writes On 14:56 21 Dec 2015, Chris French wrote: In message , Thomas Prufer writes On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:30:02 +0000, Chris French wrote: Manual is here is any one thinks I'm not reading them correctly. http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/SID-31E28FCE- A4508391/lsp/hs.xsl/pro duct.html?id=140798043&rdeLocaleAttr=en&title= RADIO-CONTROLLED %20WALL%20CLOCK I think Lidl have cocked up :-) Sounds like it. Does the clock start at 12, 4, or 8? Could be the hands were put on wrong...? They start at 12. However, perusing the Lidl service site, I found the same looking clock sold previously under a different model number. It says for UK the hands should go to 11 (and for a couple of other countries to 1, presumably as they are an hour ahead) looks like my clock should have stayed on the mainland :-) So even if you set the time manually, soon enough the clock will adjust itself to German time? Yup. That would mean every clock sold is unsuitable for use in the UK. Yup, they have cocked up. -- Chris French |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
In message , Rod Speed
writes "Chris French" wrote in message ... In message , Chris B writes On 21/12/2015 12:06, Chris French wrote: A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) I have bought 3 from Lidl over the years and they all have had the ability to set the displayed time as +/- 1, 2 or 3 hours. Try playing with the menus or if all else fails try google for the exact type - you will probably find the info. There are no menus, googling it up produces no results. Manual is here is any one thinks I'm not reading them correctly. http://www.lidl-service.com/cps/rde/...lsp/hs.xsl/pro duct.html?id=140798043&rdeLocaleAttr=en&title=RADI O-CONTROLLED%20WALL%20C LOCK My reading of that is that you can use the manual time setting to move the time forward 1 minute at a time and that that offset will be used when it acquires the radio time. I don't think so, whilst it doesn't specify it in the manual, with radio control clocks they normally revert to the automatically set time once they recieve the signal again. I think Lidl have cocked up :-) I find it hard to believe that krauts could **** up as spectacularly as that. shrug believe what you want. -- Chris French |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
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Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:56:05 -0000, F Murtz wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French wrote: A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter. ???? Do they change the earth rotation The earth's rotation changes by up to 50 seconds either way per day. -- 23% of all photocopier faults worldwide are caused by people sitting on them and photocopying their buttocks. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:56:05 -0000, F Murtz wrote:
Mr Macaw wrote: On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:06:36 -0000, Chris French wrote: A new Lidl has recently in our local town - a bit of a novelty as the nearest Aldlidls are about 20 miles away. Anyway, popped in today for the first time when passing, to see if they had any interesting things in their deals. I picked up a new radio controlled clock as our old one died. Thing is, it's it sets itself an hour fast. Instructions say it uses the DCF77 signal from Mainflingen in Germany, which presumably is giving time in CET (GMT+1). Now I don't really know how the system works, but the clocks obviously don't know where in the world they are so presumably are set to pickup a specific signal. I have a radio controlled watch, but on that I can set the time zone) So are Lidl are selling a load of clocks which will set themselves wrong :-) It would be right if our ****wit government hadn't put the clocks back to give us even less light in an already dark winter. ???? Do they change the earth rotation No, they come and paint different numbers on all our clocks and watches so the light happens earlier in the day. -- 23% of all photocopier faults worldwide are caused by people sitting on them and photocopying their buttocks. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
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Radio controlled clock an hour fast
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Phil L wrote: And as now it only gets light at 8AM, if it were left like that, it would still be dark when all the kids were going to school at 8:30, this is why they changed it - an extra hour at 4pm is a waste of light, all the kids are back home by then When I were a kid in the NE of Scotland, we went to school in the dark as well as coming home after dark for some of the winter. But had daylight until after 11pm in mid summer. -- *Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
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ARW wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , F news@nowhere wrote: Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason? Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly. Do their cows tell the time, then? They know when to go to sleep - at pasture bedtime That's good. Know any udder ones? -- *The longest recorded flightof a chicken is thirteen seconds * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
replying to alan_m , John wrote:
junk wrote: The aldi/lidl clocks often have a UK/CET switch to set the time zone. -- mailto: news admac {dot] myzen co uk Sadly, though, this one doesn't. -- |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
replying to Chris French , Unclefista wrote:
newsgrp wrote: In message , Thomas Prufer writes They start at 12. However, perusing the Lidl service site, I found the same looking clock sold previously under a different model number. It says for UK the hands should go to 11 (and for a couple of other countries to 1, presumably as they are an hour ahead) looks like my clock should have stayed on the mainland :-) -- Chris French I've just sorted mine out, no menu or anything complicated ;) The clock face/mechanism is held into the case with 4 wire clips. Unclip these from the case (the end closest to you, not the point of the V that presses against the black plastic of the mechanism, you'll see what I mean when you look. Then I physically moved the hour hand back an hour. Clips clip back into place. That's it.. Took me about 2 minutes because I was being careful. HTH -- |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Tue, 22 Dec 2015 00:05:26 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , ARW wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , F news@nowhere wrote: Apparently most English want the above, but not Scots for some reason? Scottish farmers, if I remember correctly. Do their cows tell the time, then? They know when to go to sleep - at pasture bedtime That's good. Know any udder ones? You're milking this. G.Harman |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 22:51:57 +0000, polygonum wrote:
I am imagining Scotland choosing no summer/winter change, changing on different dates, doubled change, or something else that can't ready be handled by the existing simplistic "which transmitter" and "extra hour/minus hour" mechanisms. The smallest time increment the current time zones show is 15 minutes. That would be outside the usual reception area: Nepal, Australia, New Zealand... Thomas Prufer |
Radio controlled clock an hour fast
In message , Rod Speed
writes I find it hard to believe that krauts could **** up as spectacularly as that. Oh Ye of little Faith... Volkswagen? Energiewiende? Cultural Marxism has rendered Germany more ****ed up than most places -- the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with what it actually is. |
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