Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?
--
Graeme

Can be, kind of like a radio gram over a dancette.
Brian

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"News" wrote in message
...

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of built
in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I started to
wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start around the
forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a definite
improvement?
--
Graeme

On 13/11/15 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

You can go to a Yamaha YSP-2500 that does some really weird stuff taking
advantage of sound reflections to simulate having speakers all over the
room. That had a crazy number of speakers, each one claiming to be
directional. And yes, it needs to calibrate to a room (using a supplied
external mic). It has extremely good reviews.

You can go even more insane in pricing.

The point being, that between that and the Goodmans, there are a whole
range of varying devices.

Amazon is a good place to plug one in and see real reviews. What do you
really want and what budget?

News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

Fitted a £100 LG soundbar and a 42" Samsung TV in an office the other
week - the TV sound was notably better.

Try before you buy!

--
Scott

Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?

In message , News
writes

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to
start around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price,
but a definite improvement?

Can I join your thread?

Huge price range.

I need something to *sharpen* up the audio; particularly on lower budget
American films. Simply turning up the volume causes annoyance.
Specsavers are very keen to help me but mostly I can manage without
expensive things stuffed in my ears.

Family joke... what bird is that singing? What bird?

I don't want cinema surround sound but would like the ability to tweak
the treble end of the output.

Skimming some of the reviews turned up criticism of compatibility with
other electronic gizmos. I suppose it is too much to hope the device
will not require a separate handset and power supply but simply plugging
in to *audio out* and cutting out the set speakers is attractive.

--
Tim Lamb

On 13/11/2015 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

You'll be subjected to more of that Strictly screeching. I'd invest in
some earplugs instead

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On 16:54 13 Nov 2015, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

A half decent telly can sound better than a £40 soundbar.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 19:08:06 -0000, Jonno wrote:

I've got a cheapish Maxell soundbar and I'm forever losing the credit
card sized remote.

If the telly has ARC (Audio Reverse Channel) on one of its HDMI
inputs get an external speaker set/sound bar that has an HDMI out
that also understands ARC.

You should then be able to control the external speakers via the TV's
remote over the HDMI connection.

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On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 20:22:06 GMT, pamela wrote:

On 16:54 13 Nov 2015, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

A half decent telly can sound better than a £40 soundbar.


My 28 inch Sony CRT set certainly did before I scrapped it, but where
can they put decent sized forward facing speakers, in modern,
virtually frameless, wafer thin sets that people demand today?


--

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:09:03 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 13/11/15 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

You can go to a Yamaha YSP-2500 that does some really weird stuff taking
advantage of sound reflections to simulate having speakers all over the
room. That had a crazy number of speakers, each one claiming to be
directional. And yes, it needs to calibrate to a room (using a supplied
external mic). It has extremely good reviews.

You can go even more insane in pricing.

The point being, that between that and the Goodmans, there are a whole
range of varying devices.

Amazon is a good place to plug one in and see real reviews. What do you
really want and what budget?

These soundbars certainly have their place, but they seem to have
stifled the pursuit of true surround-sound to some extent, which is a
pity.



--

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

In message , stuart noble
writes
On 13/11/2015 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly,

You'll be subjected to more of that Strictly screeching. I'd invest in
some earplugs instead

smile Indeed :-) I normally watch something else via YouTube and
wear headphones.
--
Graeme

In article , Tim Lamb
scribeth thus
In message , News
writes

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to
start around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price,
but a definite improvement?

Can I join your thread?

Huge price range.

I need something to *sharpen* up the audio; particularly on lower budget
American films. Simply turning up the volume causes annoyance.
Specsavers are very keen to help me but mostly I can manage without
expensive things stuffed in my ears.

Family joke... what bird is that singing? What bird?

I don't want cinema surround sound but would like the ability to tweak
the treble end of the output.

Skimming some of the reviews turned up criticism of compatibility with
other electronic gizmos. I suppose it is too much to hope the device
will not require a separate handset and power supply but simply plugging
in to *audio out* and cutting out the set speakers is attractive.


If you have a half decent hi-fi system then try the TV sound thru that.

Most sets have line level outlets....


Results can be very good indeed
--
Tony Sayer

On 13/11/2015 18:28, Tim Lamb wrote:

I need something to *sharpen* up the audio; particularly on lower budget
American films. Simply turning up the volume causes annoyance.
Specsavers are very keen to help me but mostly I can manage without
expensive things stuffed in my ears.



Digital TV could have given us world class surround sound audio but what
we have ended up with is highly filtered over compressed crap audio on
most channels.

IMO my Nicam decoder of 10/15 years ago on analogue transmissions
produced better audio than I'm getting today on majority of digital TV
channels.

IMO putting the audio through my AV amp produces a much better
experience than from than TV speakers alone. Visiting friends houses
and listening the output from the TV speakers confirms that my set-up is
better, However, after listening to inferior audio for any length of
time and it becomes almost acceptable.


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On 13/11/15 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

just about any junk shop or charity shop will be giving away old 'midfi'
units with an amp and a pair of loudspeakers - better than a 'soundbar'
by a huge margin.


--
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diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 22:13:01 -0000, Graham. wrote:

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:09:03 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 13/11/15 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

You can go to a Yamaha YSP-2500 that does some really weird stuff taking
advantage of sound reflections to simulate having speakers all over the
room. That had a crazy number of speakers, each one claiming to be
directional. And yes, it needs to calibrate to a room (using a supplied
external mic). It has extremely good reviews.

You can go even more insane in pricing.

The point being, that between that and the Goodmans, there are a whole
range of varying devices.

Amazon is a good place to plug one in and see real reviews. What do you
really want and what budget?

These soundbars certainly have their place, but they seem to have
stifled the pursuit of true surround-sound to some extent, which is a
pity.

I keep thinking of surround sound, but is anything actually recorded in it?

--
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So their shipmates will have something to read.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 16:54:09 -0000, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

What's wrong with connecting the line-out from your TV to your stereo that 's already in the room? Much better sound, a fiver for a connecting lead, and no extra clutter.

--
Bill Clinton thinks "harass" is two words.

On 13/11/2015 23:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

I keep thinking of surround sound, but is anything actually recorded in it?


Just most of the stuff on TV for the last few years and films for
longer. But its only DD5.1 not bluray quality.

On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 23:47:30 -0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 13/11/2015 23:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

I keep thinking of surround sound, but is anything actually recorded in it?

Just most of the stuff on TV for the last few years and films for
longer. But its only DD5.1 not bluray quality.

Last time I tried it there was always a reason that most of the stuff just didn't work. Only pretty new stuff had the extra sound on it, and only if you got it from the right TV channel.

I remember surround sound systems over 20 years ago, why the **** has it taken so long to record everything like this?

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On 13/11/2015 23:47, dennis@home wrote:
On 13/11/2015 23:41, Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

I keep thinking of surround sound, but is anything actually recorded
in it?


Just most of the stuff on TV for the last few years and films for
longer. But its only DD5.1 not bluray quality.


SD Stereo, Prologic II at best.

HD may get you multi-channel surround sound but for very few broadcasts.
Very little on the BBC Freeview is ACC5.1 and on the lesser channels you
will be lucky to get poor quality mono.

IMO experience some channels can get the front and back speaker decoding
swapped. For a couple of adverts this trick can get your attention but
it's bloody annoying and likely to put you off the product for life.

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In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
If you have a half decent hi-fi system then try the TV sound thru that.

Most sets have line level outlets....

If you mean analogue, most of the ones I've seen don't. Apart from a
headphone socket. So you may have to budget for a toslink to RCA convertor
too. More clutter. ;-)

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In article ,
alan_m wrote:
Digital TV could have given us world class surround sound audio but what
we have ended up with is highly filtered over compressed crap audio on
most channels.

IMO my Nicam decoder of 10/15 years ago on analogue transmissions
produced better audio than I'm getting today on majority of digital TV
channels.

It might well depend on how decent the original sound is they're
transmitting. Older stuff from analogue VTRs was generally not the best -
and often below par due to being transferred to digital by monkeys.

I use FreeView for radio, and that seems OK.

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 14/11/2015 00:43, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
If you have a half decent hi-fi system then try the TV sound thru that.

Most sets have line level outlets....

If you mean analogue, most of the ones I've seen don't. Apart from a
headphone socket. So you may have to budget for a toslink to RCA convertor
too. More clutter. ;-)

When I read that I thought "Damn, something I'll have to remember to
look for if this CRT ever dies". But then I remembered we watch mostly
through a PVR, and they're more likely to have the outputs.

Our PVR gets used for radio more than anything else. Though it might
count as clutter too :-)

In message , tony sayer
writes

If you have a half decent hi-fi system then try the TV sound thru that.

I have tried that in the dim and distant, and it certainly works, but I
really, really cannot get used to the sound coming from somewhere other
than the TV itself, IYSWIM. Yes, I could move the speakers, but they
are where I like them for music/radio.
--
Graeme

In message , alan_m
writes

However, after listening to inferior audio for any length of time and
it becomes almost acceptable.

Yes, I think that is the bottom line, coupled with aging ears that were
never terribly good years ago. My hearing is a family joke.

Earlier this week I brought my TT down from the loft, where it has been
since we moved here 14 years ago. Installed and balanced mainly because
son has never seen vinyl played! I am delighted, but do I really
appreciate it? Most listening is done whilst doing something else, and
I am used to hearing YouTube, mp3s etc. I cannot bring myself to sell
the vinyl, though.

Getting back on topic, I have the TV volume higher than other family
members, and still sometimes struggle to hear dialogue, which suggests
it is clarity rather than volume that is the problem. Perhaps a
soundbar would help? I suppose the only answer is suck it and see.
--
Graeme

In message , News
writes
In message , tony sayer
writes

If you have a half decent hi-fi system then try the TV sound thru that.

I have tried that in the dim and distant, and it certainly works, but I
really, really cannot get used to the sound coming from somewhere other
than the TV itself, IYSWIM. Yes, I could move the speakers, but they
are where I like them for music/radio.

I suspect that will be the problem here.

We have an Aiwa radio/tape/CD player with a good speaker set up just
round the corner from the lounge TV. Lots of bass in the set up for my
Dire Straits discs:-)

Perhaps I should investigate headphones as a longer lasting solution?

--
Tim Lamb

"News" wrote in message
...
In message , alan_m
writes

However, after listening to inferior audio for any length of time and it
becomes almost acceptable.

Yes, I think that is the bottom line, coupled with aging ears that were
never terribly good years ago. My hearing is a family joke.

Earlier this week I brought my TT down from the loft, where it has been
since we moved here 14 years ago. Installed and balanced mainly because
son has never seen vinyl played! I am delighted, but do I really
appreciate it? Most listening is done whilst doing something else, and I
am used to hearing YouTube, mp3s etc. I cannot bring myself to sell the
vinyl, though.

Getting back on topic, I have the TV volume higher than other family
members, and still sometimes struggle to hear dialogue, which suggests it
is clarity rather than volume that is the problem. Perhaps a soundbar
would help? I suppose the only answer is suck it and see.

Or get a hearing test and see what the problem is and then
fix that problem if its say a notch in the frequency response
of your ears etc. It is with some people.

In message , Tim Lamb
writes

We have an Aiwa radio/tape/CD player with a good speaker set up just
round the corner from the lounge TV. Lots of bass in the set up for my
Dire Straits discs:-)

Having set up my turntable yesterday, the first proper record I played,
for at least 15 years, was Walk of Life :-)
--
Graeme

On 14/11/15 08:02, News wrote:
In message , alan_m
writes

However, after listening to inferior audio for any length of time and
it becomes almost acceptable.

Yes, I think that is the bottom line, coupled with aging ears that were
never terribly good years ago. My hearing is a family joke.

Earlier this week I brought my TT down from the loft, where it has been
since we moved here 14 years ago. Installed and balanced mainly because
son has never seen vinyl played! I am delighted, but do I really
appreciate it? Most listening is done whilst doing something else, and
I am used to hearing YouTube, mp3s etc. I cannot bring myself to sell
the vinyl, though.

Getting back on topic, I have the TV volume higher than other family
members, and still sometimes struggle to hear dialogue, which suggests
it is clarity rather than volume that is the problem. Perhaps a
soundbar would help? I suppose the only answer is suck it and see.

Classic age related hearing loss. You need a massive treble boost to 3K
or so, (the rest will be gone above that) and you probably have some
intermodulation distortion, making it hard to distinguish one voice from
another.



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diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

Well yes, but in the average living room rather than a room dedicated to
audio and video, they are probably less intrusive and less annoying to those
who have to clean the place!
Brian

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"Graham." wrote in message
...
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 18:09:03 +0000, Tim Watts
wrote:

On 13/11/15 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

You can go to a Yamaha YSP-2500 that does some really weird stuff taking
advantage of sound reflections to simulate having speakers all over the
room. That had a crazy number of speakers, each one claiming to be
directional. And yes, it needs to calibrate to a room (using a supplied
external mic). It has extremely good reviews.

You can go even more insane in pricing.

The point being, that between that and the Goodmans, there are a whole
range of varying devices.

Amazon is a good place to plug one in and see real reviews. What do you
really want and what budget?

These soundbars certainly have their place, but they seem to have
stifled the pursuit of true surround-sound to some extent, which is a
pity.



--

Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On 13/11/2015 23:26, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/11/15 16:54, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

just about any junk shop or charity shop will be giving away old 'midfi'
units with an amp and a pair of loudspeakers - better than a 'soundbar'
by a huge margin.



Possibly - although some of them are utter tat. And I don't want all
that clutter in the telly-watching room.

I bought a Tannoy sound 'box' for about £100 from Richer Sounds - much
chunkier than a bar and a decent compromise IMO.

--
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"pamela" wrote in message
...
On 16:54 13 Nov 2015, News wrote:

Prompted partly by the recent discussion concerning the awfulness of
built in TV speakers, and partly by Wifey now enjoying Strictly, I
started to wonder about a soundbar. Worthwhile? Goodmans seem to start
around the forty quid mark. Not expecting hi-fi at that price, but a
definite improvement?

A half decent telly can sound better than a £40 soundbar.
#
How many people listen to a telly before they buy it?

Very few, and once you find you have a duff one, paying 400 quid for a new
one instead of adding a sound bar is silly

tim

In article ,
News wrote:
In message , tony sayer
writes

If you have a half decent hi-fi system then try the TV sound thru that.

I have tried that in the dim and distant, and it certainly works, but I
really, really cannot get used to the sound coming from somewhere other
than the TV itself, IYSWIM. Yes, I could move the speakers, but they
are where I like them for music/radio.

You have different seating positions in the same room for TV viewing and
listening to music?

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

In article ,
News wrote:
Getting back on topic, I have the TV volume higher than other family
members, and still sometimes struggle to hear dialogue, which suggests
it is clarity rather than volume that is the problem. Perhaps a
soundbar would help? I suppose the only answer is suck it and see.

If it is a problem with other family members, would you using headphones
help?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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A few generations ago, better TVs had quite respectable audio amps built
in and allowed you to just use extension speakers if you wanted better
than the built in ones.

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On Sat, 14 Nov 2015 10:40:17 +0000, RJH wrote:


I bought a Tannoy sound 'box' for about £100 from Richer Sounds - much
chunkier than a bar and a decent compromise IMO.

Ditto a Cambridge sound 'base' in last year's mad Friday (or whatever)
pre-Christmas shopping spree. I find it makes a subtle difference to
the sound, and control it (and the TV and PVR) with a universal
remote. You might have to configure the TV to tell it that you are
using an external device.

In article ,
tim..... wrote:
A half decent telly can sound better than a £40 soundbar.
# How many people listen to a telly before they buy it?

Very few, and once you find you have a duff one, paying 400 quid for a
new one instead of adding a sound bar is silly

Does anyone make a decent sounding telly at any money? To me, this would
mean forward firing speakers. At least for MF and HF. And every (large)
set I've seen these days is screen only at the front.

Not quite sure why adding a soundbar makes the total installation neater
looking than having decent built in speakers in the first place.

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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
News wrote:
Getting back on topic, I have the TV volume higher than other family
members, and still sometimes struggle to hear dialogue, which suggests
it is clarity rather than volume that is the problem. Perhaps a
soundbar would help? I suppose the only answer is suck it and see.

If it is a problem with other family members, would you using headphones
help?

I don't think so, because I have the same problem watching old TV
programmes via YouTube, using headphones. Which, having typed that,
makes me think a soundbar will probably not make any difference. I've
been watching old Morse episodes, and occasionally play the same
sentence two or three times before hearing the words, rather than just
the voice. Perhaps I need sub titles more than a soundbar :-)

Two people have politely suggested I have my ears checked. Well, I
have, and there is no physical problem. Were we having this
conversation face to face, it would not occur to you that my hearing is
iffy, unless perhaps we were in a crowded bar. Having said that, son
can say a complete paragraph, addressing both parents, and I'll catch
the odd word. However, if he faces me directly, and speaks rather than
mumbles, I'm fine.
--
Graeme

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
News wrote:

I have tried that in the dim and distant, and it certainly works, but I
really, really cannot get used to the sound coming from somewhere other
than the TV itself, IYSWIM. Yes, I could move the speakers, but they
are where I like them for music/radio.

You have different seating positions in the same room for TV viewing and
listening to music?

No, but the TV is off to one side, not between the speakers. It just
feels odd seeing the image to one side yet hearing the sound directly in
front. I suppose I could get used to it. No, I can't put the TV
between the speakers, and would prefer not to move the speakers.
--
Graeme

On 14/11/15 12:27, News wrote:
Two people have politely suggested I have my ears checked. Well, I
have, and there is no physical problem. Were we having this
conversation face to face, it would not occur to you that my hearing is
iffy, unless perhaps we were in a crowded bar. Having said that, son
can say a complete paragraph, addressing both parents, and I'll catch
the odd word. However, if he faces me directly, and speaks rather than
mumbles, I'm fine.

Intermodulation distortion doesn't necessarily show up on a hearing test.

I know several partially deaf people. They all say "and speaks rather
than mumbles, I'm fine."

You are half deaf, have severe upper octave losses and probably some
moderate to severe distortion.

A hearing aid might help.

Cans and an equaliser will be better, Boost the 1k-3k band, Its unlikely
you can hear much above that.

Learn to lipread.


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the biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

In article ,
News wrote:
I don't think so, because I have the same problem watching old TV
programmes via YouTube, using headphones. Which, having typed that,
makes me think a soundbar will probably not make any difference. I've
been watching old Morse episodes, and occasionally play the same
sentence two or three times before hearing the words, rather than just
the voice. Perhaps I need sub titles more than a soundbar :-)


Depending on the age of the Morse series, they went over to using radio
mics rather early on with quite appalling results. So not a benchmark for
decent speech quality.

I'd be inclined to fit a graphic equaliser between the device and the
headphones. Putting a large peak around 3 kHz can improve clarity
dramatically. As can rolling off the bass end. If nothing else you'll have
great fun playing. ;-)

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