Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 18:09:20 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:


"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article5_ydndeLUZDrTYXLnZ2dnUU78XmdnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk,
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In ,
Tough Guy no. wrote:


Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
****ing tickets.


Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.



Why would anyone want to from choice?

Some 9 million?


You don't really think they want to live there do you? It has to
be experienced on an occasional basis to really see and smell how bad it
is. Transport is messed up, no parking, even if you can reach your
destination. The people are very unappealing, I suspect because they are
so unhappy. Housing is unobtainable for the average wage individual. It's
a mess.

It's the arsehole of England, biggest ******** in the country.

[notifies press] Mr Pounder has agreed with someone.

--
Thank you velly much. I'm not Wan King the chef, I'm Fu King the owner.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 00:27:10 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:

Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:

All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.


It's other people who live close to me, not me who lives close to them.

What, they all moved in after you did?

--
Peter is listening to "The Shadows - Sleepwalk"

Lidl parking
 

ARW wrote:
"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Tim Watts wrote:
On 09/10/15 15:37, charles wrote:
In article ,
Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:35:48 +0100, Davey wrote:

Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first
reason is
that there isn't one near us.

Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it
returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually
mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.


Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).

Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...

[1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

That was my thinking about a year ago. Now about 80% of our weekly
shop comes from Aldi and the rest from a fortnightly trip to ASDA and
the odd trip to Costco.

What don’t you get from Aldi and is that because you don’t like
Aldi's offering on that, the price or because its not stocked ?

It is a mix of offering and stock Rod. We prefer unsliced bread and
Aldi don't stock that. I am diabetic so we buy diet cold drinks and
Aldi are often sold out.
Prices are better or equal to those of ASDA.
Wine quality at Aldi is excellent but stock levels are variable which
leads me to stock up when I see a favourite in stock, which depletes
the stock for the next customer of course!


Diet drinks and wine! Good way to keep the bloods sugars down:-)

Seems to work for me, I pass my medical assessment each year with good
blood test parameters.
They don't seem to worry about modest regular alcohol consumption just
against binging.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:26:33 +0100, Capitol wrote:

The traffic was still buggered up in the 50s.

London traffic was buggered up several centuries before the 1950s.

The London smogs were appalling.

And, before them, the piles of horse**** in the streets were a health
hazard.

Lidl parking
 

On 10/10/2015 16:31, michael adams wrote:

In this case the OP is in the right, he shopped at Lidl and
didn't exceed the limit. And there's proof of this as he paid
by credit card and his car was filmed by the CCTV both
in and out. So he doesn't need to do anything or explain
himself in any way. As it happens he helpfully explained to
them that he'd paid by CC, which is more than I'd have done.


michael adams

As I posted further up the thread, I'm not sure how this proves that the
OP made a purchase at the relevant time unless

(a) his bank provided the name and address associated with his card to
Lidl and they passed them to the parking enforcers who obtained those
associated with his car registration from the DVLA and matched the two up

or

(b) he told the parking enforcers his card number and they got Lidl to
confirm from their records that he made a purchase at the relevant time.

Lidl parking
 

"Chris" wrote in message
...
On 10/10/2015 16:31, michael adams wrote:

In this case the OP is in the right, he shopped at Lidl and
didn't exceed the limit. And there's proof of this as he paid
by credit card and his car was filmed by the CCTV both
in and out. So he doesn't need to do anything or explain
himself in any way. As it happens he helpfully explained to
them that he'd paid by CC, which is more than I'd have done.


michael adams

As I posted further up the thread, I'm not sure how this proves that the OP made a
purchase at the relevant time unless

Unless nothing.

The CC transaction will give the location and exact time and date.

You can't really get a much better standard of proof than that.

The fact that the claimant may have to jump through hoops to
satisfy themselves that the OP is speaking the truth as he
claims, or in the end find themselves unable to do so, is
entirely their problem. Not his.

Its not for the OP to jump through hoops to prove anything.
Not even to answer letters or emails.

It's up to the company to either swallow it, or take him to
Court and when judgement goes against them, at a bare minumum
pay him his costs when he produces the CC evidence as supplied
by his CC provider which proves he was speaking the truth.


michael adams

....


(a) his bank provided the name and address associated with his card to Lidl and they
passed them to the parking enforcers who obtained those associated with his car
registration from the DVLA and matched the two up

or

(b) he told the parking enforcers his card number and they got Lidl to confirm from
their records that he made a purchase at the relevant time.

Lidl parking
 

In message , Bob Minchin
writes
Rod, it is possible that they may have different stocking policies in
your part of the world. Initially I used to go in for their promotional
items - tools etc and then tried a few food items and liked them and it
grew from there. I still can't just write out my shopping list and
expect to get everything in ALDI but in UK they and several other
supermarkets supply their prices to www.mysupermarket.com
And so I can see exactly who sells what and for how much as well as the
special offers. So far LIDL have refused to play ball with the website
but ALDI, ASDA, Tesco, sainsburys, morrisons waitrose and ocado show
their wares.

Bob, I don't shop and had not come across the *mysupermarket* site.
Warburtons seeded loaf are an issue with my shopper as they are not
always in stock.

Does that site do an *availability* service. I had a poke round and gave
it my post code but could not find an *in stock* feature.

--
Tim Lamb

Lidl parking
 

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

I'd expect so. When I were a lad in the '50s, it was
far less common for women to drive - even if there
was a family car, which again wasn't everyone.

I can think of only a few of the ones I knew at that time that
didn't. None of the mothers of those I knew couldn't, the
few that couldn't were entirely of the generation before that.

Well yes, but you live in a big country like
the US with appalling public transport,

That isn't true of the capital citys and biggest towns, particularly at that
time.

and only the company store miles away.

We don't have anything like that here.

So it was a question of learning how to drive or starve.

Nope.

In the UK we had shops close by

So did we, and the delivery of the commonly used
stuff like bread and milk and fruit and veg too. I can
still remember the delivery being done by horse and
cart and being sent to get some bread and eating the
guts of it on the way home. Didn't go down too well.

and decent public transport.

We had plenty of that in the capital citys and bigger towns.

And plenty including me road a bike at that time.

We had plenty of shearers ride bikes to get to work pre
war and quite a few country kids rode a horse to school
and back or walked if they lived in the town. I did too.

Lidl parking
 

Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Why haven't they built a car park?

Why would you want a car park at a train station?
If you have a car, why not use it for the whole journey?

Because the train is a lot better value in some situations.

It wouldn't occur to you that if there wasn't
room for a carpark at station in London,

We were discussing the situation where the
station car park was rarely more than half full.

there's be equally as little chance of finding
one at your journey's end in London?

That wasn’t necessarily the case at the time being discussed.

Lidl parking
 

"ARW" wrote in message
...
"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
MM wrote
Chris wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote

The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.

Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On
that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details.
Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system
anyway.

Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic
so they could check with the store easily that I'd used the
store on the date and time in question.

Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove
I made a purchase. They want a copy of the till receipt.

As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.

So I've told them to check themselves.
Be interesting to see what happens next.

How do they link your car registration with your payment card?

Nowadays, EVERYthing's linked, EVERYthing's discoverable.

Nope. Tell me what my mobile phone number is.

Tell me what my care number plate is.

You have a care number?

Car number plate.

Lidl parking
 

On 10/10/2015 19:13, michael adams wrote:
"Chris" wrote in message
...
On 10/10/2015 16:31, michael adams wrote:

In this case the OP is in the right, he shopped at Lidl and
didn't exceed the limit. And there's proof of this as he paid
by credit card and his car was filmed by the CCTV both
in and out. So he doesn't need to do anything or explain
himself in any way. As it happens he helpfully explained to
them that he'd paid by CC, which is more than I'd have done.


michael adams

As I posted further up the thread, I'm not sure how this proves that the OP made a
purchase at the relevant time unless

Unless nothing.

The CC transaction will give the location and exact time and date.

And the cardholder's name? I didn't realise that. In that I case I
would agree that...

You can't really get a much better standard of proof than that.



The fact that the claimant may have to jump through hoops to
satisfy themselves that the OP is speaking the truth as he
claims, or in the end find themselves unable to do so, is
entirely their problem. Not his.

Its not for the OP to jump through hoops to prove anything.
Not even to answer letters or emails.

It's up to the company to either swallow it, or take him to
Court and when judgement goes against them, at a bare minumum
pay him his costs when he produces the CC evidence as supplied
by his CC provider which proves he was speaking the truth.


michael adams

Lidl parking
 

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...

"ARW" wrote in message
...
"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.

Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details.
Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system
anyway.

Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and
time
in question.

Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.

As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.

So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
happens
next.

I'm not being horrible, but it seems to me that most of these parking
problems happen in the south.
We have never ever had problems parking in supermarket car parks in the
north.
Even if we won £40M we would never move to the south.
See, I've not been horrible.

We?

Is there more than one of you?

There is a Mrs Pounder Esquire.

No Mrs is ever an esquire, you illiterate clown.

Lidl parking
 

"tim....." wrote in message
...

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...
Fredxxx wrote
wrote
Graham. wrote

Even if I successfully appeal the parking charge or Road Traffic Act
offence, the admin charge still stands

If you successfully appeal the parking charge then you should
counterclaim against them for the admin charge. It's a loss wholly
due to their pursuing an unenforceable claim against you.

That was my thought initially, but this is really defamation and its
consequences.

No its not, any more than receiving a speed camera fine is.
They can't even demand that you tell them who was driving the car in the
Lidl car park situation.

they no longer need to

in the absence of proof that someone else was driving, the owner (keeper)
is now liable for "fines".

Nope, they aren't legally liable with a private car park.

Lidl parking
 

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:51:23 +0100, tim.....
wrote:


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:45:00 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article ,
charles wrote:
And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of
the
spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
take their place.

Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of
their
others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large
areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to park my
car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with ****ing
tickets.

and bugger the people who live in town centres and don't have cars then

That's a stupid place to live.

Not necessarily.

Towns are for shops and factories.

It can be quite convenient to live above/behind the shop.

Lidl parking
 

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:19:06 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Tough Guy no. wrote:

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
****ing tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.


Why would anyone want to from choice?

Because a lot more happens there than anywhere else.

That's one of the main reasons not to go there.

Not for those into what happens more than anywhere else.

Lidl parking
 

"dennis@home" wrote in message
b.com...
On 10/10/2015 11:38, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

I'd expect so. When I were a lad in the '50s, it was far less common for
women to drive - even if there was a family car, which again wasn't
everyone.

Women drivers don't have to be bad..

But normally are worse than male
drivers except for risk taking etc.

I find the ones taught to drive by their husbands are bad, the ones that
had a driving instructor are far better.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

Lidl parking
 

"tim....." wrote in message
...

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"ARW" wrote in message
...
"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 22:58:45 +0100, Graham. wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 09/10/2015 21:25, charles wrote:
In article , Tough Guy no. 1265

wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:11:19 +0100, charles

wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
charles wrote:

How do they link your car registration with your payment
card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but
it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of
purchase
does.


I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you
have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's
beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and
Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was
seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXzqAC_7Vxg


Blocked.

Nope.

what part of:

"This video contains content from BBC Worldwide, who has blocked it in
your country on copyright grounds"

do you not understand

;-)

Don't get anything like that. And stop that smirking
or you will be sent to your room, again.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:04:30 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:19:06 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Tough Guy no. wrote:

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
****ing tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.


Why would anyone want to from choice?

Because a lot more happens there than anywhere else.

That's one of the main reasons not to go there.

Not for those into what happens more than anywhere else.

Things cause noise. What's wrong with some natural surroundings like trees?

--
In a recent survey 40% found they didn't have time to answer the
question, 25% hung up the phone when the question was being
asked, 20% couldn't speak English, and 15% gave answers that
weren't asked.

Lidl parking
 

"tim....." wrote in message
...

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...

"ARW" wrote in message
...
"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.

Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On
that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details.
Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system
anyway.

Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they
could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and
time
in question.

Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.

As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.

So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
happens
next.

I'm not being horrible, but it seems to me that most of these parking
problems happen in the south.
We have never ever had problems parking in supermarket car parks in the
north.
Even if we won £40M we would never move to the south.
See, I've not been horrible.

We?

Is there more than one of you?

There is a Mrs Pounder Esquire.

shouldn't it be Mrs Pounder Madam

Nope. There is no equivalent for a woman
and only an illiterate clown ever has both
Mr and Esq on the address at the same time.
it's one or the other, not both.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:18:45 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"tim....." wrote in message
...

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"ARW" wrote in message
...
"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 22:58:45 +0100, Graham. wrote:

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 09/10/2015 21:25, charles wrote:
In article , Tough Guy no. 1265

wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:11:19 +0100, charles

wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
charles wrote:

How do they link your car registration with your payment
card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but
it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of
purchase
does.


I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you
have to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's
beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and
Town &
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was
seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

Women driving? Next thing they'll will be smoking pipes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXzqAC_7Vxg


Blocked.

Nope.

what part of:

"This video contains content from BBC Worldwide, who has blocked it in
your country on copyright grounds"

do you not understand

;-)

Don't get anything like that. And stop that smirking
or you will be sent to your room, again.

Will there be spanking?

--
Why do Italians hate Jehovah's Witnesses?
Italians hate ALL witnesses.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:02:56 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:51:23 +0100, tim.....
wrote:


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:45:00 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article ,
charles wrote:
And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of
the
spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
take their place.

Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of
their
others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large
areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to park my
car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with ****ing
tickets.

and bugger the people who live in town centres and don't have cars then

That's a stupid place to live.

Not necessarily.

Towns are for shops and factories.

It can be quite convenient to live above/behind the shop.

Yes, so you can hear everyone talking all day. How wonderful.

--
Sat opposite an Indian lady on the train today, she shut her eyes and stopped breathing. I thought she was dead, until I saw the red spot on her forehead and realised she was just on standby.

Lidl parking
 

"michael adams" wrote in message
...

"tim....." wrote in message
...

"michael adams" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.

Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them.

There's plenty online, especially in local groups, of people
who've ignored these demands and simply thrown them away
without any consequences at all.
As its cropped up before, and so presumably is actually
in their letter they can't "fine" anyone. Only the Courts
can do that.

I'm not sure of the legal basis on which people have got away
with ignoring these things, but a few minutes Googling may
provide more information.


the legal basis is that it's more expensive for the company to collect
the required evidence that they have complied with all the rules on
"private parking enforcement" than to let you off.

That's a purely practical consideration and isn't a satisfactory
legal basis for ignoring their letters.

The only legal basis for doing so, would be if they'd never won such a
case.

Its not that black and white on the never.

If you know for an absolute fact that you did
not do what they are accusing you of doing,
as Dave does, because he knows that he was
legally entitled to use that carpark at that
time because he did use the Lidl store, he
is legally free to ignore any communication
from those clowns and see them face down
in the mud and legally liable for all costs
if they are stupid enough to take it to court.

He is under no legal obligation to prove
anything to them, or even to tell them
that they have ****ed up either.

And even then circumstances might change.

Not in the situation being discussed they wont.

Lidl parking
 

"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:19:06 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Tough Guy no. wrote:

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
****ing tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.


Why would anyone want to from choice?

Because a lot more happens there than anywhere else.

That's one of the main reasons not to go there.

Not for those into what happens more than anywhere else.

Been there have you?
Stupid Australian dickhead.

Lidl parking
 

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
You do know what a supermarket is, right? I fill the equivalent of 6
large rucksacks when I go to a supermarket. That requires a car.

You use rucksacks with a car?

He said the EQUIVALENT, stupid.

Knew you were odd.

Knew you really are that stupid.

Lidl parking
 

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...

"tim....." wrote in message
...

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...

"ARW" wrote in message
...
"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
...

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking.

Had a demand for a fine from the company that runs it for them. On
that
occasion, the till person obviously forgot to ask me for my details.
Not
that I noticed at the time. And they could have changed the system
anyway.

Emailed the car park company and said I'd paid by plastic so they
could
check with the store easily that I'd used the store on the date and
time
in question.

Some time later, I've had an email asking me to prove I made a
purchase.
They want a copy of the till receipt.

As it happens I do still have it - as I bought something with a
warranty.
But had it been just groceries, would have been junked the same day.

So I've told them to check themselves. Be interesting to see what
happens
next.

I'm not being horrible, but it seems to me that most of these parking
problems happen in the south.
We have never ever had problems parking in supermarket car parks in
the north.
Even if we won £40M we would never move to the south.
See, I've not been horrible.

We?

Is there more than one of you?

There is a Mrs Pounder Esquire.

shouldn't it be Mrs Pounder Madam

As in Madam Pounder?

Nope, as in Mrs Pounder the madam.

Lidl parking
 

"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article5_ydndeLUZDrTYXLnZ2dnUU78XmdnZ2d@brightvie w.co.uk,
wrote:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

In ,
Tough Guy no. wrote:


Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
****ing tickets.


Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.



Why would anyone want to from choice?

Some 9 million?


You don't really think they want to live there do you?

Plenty of them do, much more than where you are.

It has to be experienced on an occasional basis to really see and smell
how bad it is.

They say the same thing about where you are.

Transport is messed up,

They say the same thing about where you are.

no parking, even if you can reach your destination.

There is always parking. It may not be cheap tho.

The people are very unappealing,

They say the same thing about where you are.

I suspect because they are so unhappy.

Corse that isn't true of where you are, eh ?

Housing is unobtainable for the average wage individual.

Must be why they all live in boxes under bridges etc.

It's a mess.

They say the same thing about where you are.

Lidl parking
 

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:36:59 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article ,
Tough Guy no. 1265 wrote:
You do know what a supermarket is, right? I fill the equivalent of 6
large rucksacks when I go to a supermarket. That requires a car.

You use rucksacks with a car? Knew you were odd.

You'd have to if you walked.

Nope, you can use a trolley or even the pram.

Lidl parking
 

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 05:12:24 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:45:00 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article ,
charles wrote:
And the more people that follow your example the quicker they will
drop the scheme as uneconomic.

is it? Our local one has a comparatively small car park where it was
usually necessary to wait some considerable time to get an parking
space. Often, I just went elsewhere. Now, with a camera monitored
system, a parking space is usually available, implying that many of
the
spaces were being used by non-customers - so I will continue to shop
there. Some people may, on principle stop going there, but others will
take their place.

Yes. The Lidl car park at Clapham Junction isn't as big as many of
their
others - and before the scheme could be difficult to get a space.

Supermarkets should have adequate parking.

Easier said than done in some places.

Then they shouldn't be in those places.

They don't necessarily have a choice on that.

People shopping in supermarkets buy a lot at once,

Plenty don't.

so need a car.

Nope. Plenty of ours just take the trolley home.

They should be sited on large areas of ground.

Tends to a bit of a shortage of those in some places
where some are silly enough to want to live and shop.

Then they can drive out to where the supermarket is.

Not if they don't have a car they can't.

If they don't, they can **** off.

Off got sick of being ****ed.

You're supposed to turn somebody on before ****ing.

You wouldn't know.

I want to park my car, go shopping, then go home.

And I use supermarkets where I can do that.

Tad radical I know.

Same here. So what are they grumbling about up there?

The places where its not that easy to do.

I will not mess about with ****ing tickets.

I might well do if there is no alternative and I want to use that
supermarket because what they have on offer is better than in the
supermarket that doesn't use tickets, particularly if when not having
tickets you can't find anywhere to park.

Having tickets would be a BIG reason to avoid it.

Nope, just one consideration. What they have on offer
is much more important, particularly with the operations
that are quite different the average supermarket.

Other reasons include having to remember a £1 coin for your trolley,

Anyone with even half a clue just keeps one of those in the car.

having silly voucher schemes,

I'm happy to use them when they save me substantial money,
particularly with the best of the automatic electronic ones.

and insisting you wear a shirt to shop.

I don't care if they insist that I'm not starkers.

The last thing I need is to **** myself laughing at yours.
and have everyone else in the supermarket pointing
and laughing at yours and getting in the way of me
getting what I need from the supermarket.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 14:39:21 +0100, Davey wrote:

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:30:09 +0100 "ARW"
wrote:

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 17:31:38 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:

Most of the local hospitals use this sort of system these days,
but what throws a lot of them is blind people with blue badges,
as we can turn up in almost any car, so their cunning plan to ally
a car number with a badge won't work.

But they can (and do) insist only disabled tax cars are valid ...
certainly Birmingham Town Hall does ...

Well, since it's unlikely the blind person will be driving

Considering the way many motorists leave their cars parked I would not
be so sure about that.


Around here, it seems as though Volvo Estates, driven by women, and with
a ton of stuff in the back, need to park at an angle, so blocking the
parking places on both sides. This is worse at Tesco, which has narrower
parking places than anywhere else, except for those at the new Aldi,
which are equally tiny, but the Volvos seem to stay away from there.

Our station has half a dozen 'short stay' bays right in front of the main
entrance. One day, some woman in a Chelsea tractor managed to occupy
three bays at once by just parking at right angles to the bays (none were
occupied).

I parked in the bay right in front of her, forcing her to (shock, horror)
reverse. Apparently she swore a lot (I was inside buying an advance
ticket, but my son was in the car and tought it highly amusing).

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:56:54 +0100, Bob Minchin wrote:

Rod, it is possible that they may have different stocking policies in
your part of the world.

I bet he still wears them.

Lidl parking
 

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 18:13:08 +0100, "Nightjar.me.uk" wrote:

The Lidl branch I most use is at Clapham Junction. They have
number
recognition cameras, and ask you for your car number at the
checkout.
Which then gives you up to 90 minutes free parking...

Why don't they just read the number going in and the number going out,
which is what my local Lidl does?

Presumably becase the car park is only free for 90 minutes to
customers of Lidl.

Personally if I got a notice from such a parking co and I had used
the related shop and told the parking co that it would be up to the
parking co to prove I hadn't used the shop. The shop will have CCTV,
I don't see why I have to provide any evidence, make the shop and
parking co do the work.

This has interesting Data Protection implications, can the parking co
have access to the shops CCTV recordings without a court order?

--
Cheers
Dave.

Lidl parking
 

"Chris" wrote in message
...
On 10/10/2015 19:13, michael adams wrote:
"Chris" wrote in message
...
On 10/10/2015 16:31, michael adams wrote:

In this case the OP is in the right, he shopped at Lidl and
didn't exceed the limit. And there's proof of this as he paid
by credit card and his car was filmed by the CCTV both
in and out. So he doesn't need to do anything or explain
himself in any way. As it happens he helpfully explained to
them that he'd paid by CC, which is more than I'd have done.


michael adams

As I posted further up the thread, I'm not sure how this proves that the OP made a
purchase at the relevant time unless

Unless nothing.

The CC transaction will give the location and exact time and date.

And the cardholder's name? I didn't realise that. In that I case I would agree that...

Why would it need to show the cardholder's name ?

The CC transaction will give the CC number. Which is unique to the
cardholder.

As I explained before the fact that the name of the cardholder
might not be transparent to the claimant, is their problem.
Not that of the OP. Did you not understand this ?

As I explained before the OP has all the "proof" he needs, to
show he's speaking the truth, should the need arise.

To repeat. Should the need arise.

Which would be in Court, should the company choose to doubt
his word.

Before then it's not incumbent on the OP to "prove" to the
Parking co. or anyone else, that he's speaking the truth.

If they choose not to believe him, then they can take him
to Court and find out the hard way.

In particular in explaining why, in this particular instance,
they chose not to believe him.

This is the only context in which the notion of "proof"
arises in this present instance.


michael adams


....

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 13:02:31 +0100, DJC wrote:

I can't remember if the recording system failed or it was a
software
error - but it recorded here as being there all day

Or bad programming. Counting only the first in and the last out.

The cynic says good programming. The notices take a while to arrive,
the dozy won't be able to remember what they did on that day and just
pay up...

--
Cheers
Dave.

Lidl parking
 

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 05:34:03 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 09/10/2015 21:25, charles wrote:
In article , Tough Guy no. 1265

wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:11:19 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
charles wrote:

How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase
does.


I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have
to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town
&
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was
seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

But you do have a hell of a problem getting
and keeping a well paid job or even one
that you would be happy to do for free.

No more than I would in London.

Much more than you would in London in fact.

And in London you need a much better paid job as the house prices are
stupid.

And there are far more of those there than where you are now.

Lidl parking
 

"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 05:30:54 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:25:52 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265

wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:11:19 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
charles wrote:

How do they link your car registration with your payment
card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but
it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of
purchase
does.


I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have
to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's
beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town
&
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

And everything nearby is equally old is it?

Irrelevant.

See below.

Useless.

When a building is knocked down, a car park should be made if there
aren't enough already.

Pity about who owns that building and the land
its on and why the knocked the building down
and what they replaced it with.

The council is in control of what is allowed to be built where.

But has to pay for what they take over
to turn into a carpark for the local station.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:26:36 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:


"Rod Speed" wrote in message
...


"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:19:06 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Capitol" wrote in message
o.uk...
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In ,
Tough Guy no. wrote:

Supermarkets should have adequate parking. They should be sited on
large areas of ground. If they don't, they can **** off. I want to
park my car, go shopping, then go home. I will not mess about with
****ing tickets.

Excellent news. Means you'll not be moving to London.


Why would anyone want to from choice?

Because a lot more happens there than anywhere else.

That's one of the main reasons not to go there.

Not for those into what happens more than anywhere else.

Been there have you?
Stupid Australian dickhead.

ROTFPMSL!

--
Aristotle believed wind direction determined whether a baby would be a boy or a girl.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:01:45 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 05:30:54 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:25:52 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265

wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:11:19 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
charles wrote:

How do they link your car registration with your payment
card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but
it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of
purchase
does.


I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have
to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's
beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town
&
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

And everything nearby is equally old is it?

Irrelevant.

See below.

Useless.

When a building is knocked down, a car park should be made if there
aren't enough already.

Pity about who owns that building and the land
its on and why the knocked the building down
and what they replaced it with.

The council is in control of what is allowed to be built where.

But has to pay for what they take over
to turn into a carpark for the local station.

That's their job.

--
People are more violently opposed to fur than leather because it's safer to harass rich women than motorcycle gangs.

Lidl parking
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 20:59:58 +0100, Rod Speed wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 05:34:03 +0100, Rod Speed
wrote:



"Tough Guy no. 1265" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:38:48 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 09/10/2015 21:25, charles wrote:
In article , Tough Guy no. 1265

wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 21:11:19 +0100, charles
wrote:

In article , Tough Guy no. 1265
wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 16:39:24 +0100, Dave Plowman (News)
wrote:

In article , Bill Wright
wrote:
charles wrote:

How do they link your car registration with your payment card?
Did you give them your card number in the first email?

at the branch I use, the cashier asks for your car number but it
doesn't end up on the receipt - but the date & time of purchase
does.


I don't use shops that have these parking systems.

It's actually less trouble than the close by ASDA, where you have
to
get and display a free ticket from a machine.

They obviously have to control parking in some way, as it's beside
an extremely busy station, with no car park.

Then the station should build themselves a car park. Why did the
council approve a station with no car park?

That's rather like asking why Windsor Castle was built so close to
Heathrow airport.

No it isn't.

Since the station waa built before the age of the motor car - and Town
&
Country planning did not exist - it is very similar

Yes indeed. When I was a lad (1950's) my local suburban commuter
station
(Ewell West) had a couple of dozen car parking spaces, but it was
seldom
more than half full. Most of those commuters who were lucky enough to
have a car left it at home with the wife.

All these problems are solved by not living so close to each other. I
don't have parking problems in Scotland.

But you do have a hell of a problem getting
and keeping a well paid job or even one
that you would be happy to do for free.

No more than I would in London.

Much more than you would in London in fact.

Statistics show otherwise.

And in London you need a much better paid job as the house prices are
stupid.

And there are far more of those there than where you are now.

Why get paid more just to pay more?

--
Then there was the Eskimo girl who spent the night with her
boyfriend and next morning found she was six months pregnant.

Lidl parking
 

"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:


"Bob Minchin" wrote in message
...
Tim Watts wrote:
On 09/10/15 15:37, charles wrote:
In article ,
Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 14:35:48 +0100, Davey wrote:

Sounds like another good reason not to use Lidl. The first
reason is
that there isn't one near us.

Another reason: I put my postcode into their website, and it
returned
the wrong location for my home.

I'll just stick with the usual reasons. Their food's usually
mediocre,
rarely much that much cheaper than supermarkets with a proper and
predictable range, and the store's always full of knuckle-dragging
wuckfits.

not my findings round here.


Tunbridge Wells is getting an Aldi - not far from the station (well
right next to, if you include Tunbridge Wells West station!).

Although it's not somewhere I'm likely to do my regular shop[1] I'm
expecting to go and sample their more interesting items...

[1] I could be persuaded, but we'll have to see...

That was my thinking about a year ago. Now about 80% of our weekly
shop comes from Aldi and the rest from a fortnightly trip to ASDA and
the odd trip to Costco.

What don’t you get from Aldi and is that because you don’t like
Aldi's offering on that, the price or because its not stocked ?

It is a mix of offering and stock Rod. We prefer unsliced bread and
Aldi don't stock that. I am diabetic so we buy diet cold drinks and
Aldi are often sold out.
Prices are better or equal to those of ASDA.
Wine quality at Aldi is excellent but stock levels are variable which
leads me to stock up when I see a favourite in stock, which depletes
the stock for the next customer of course!

Thanks for that. We are about to get one. Previously the closest
was $50 in petrol away and I never did buy anything on the few
occasions I was in that town for other reasons, mainly because
I do have very decent stocks of what I use much. Going to be
interesting to see how much I use it when it opens. Quite a bit
I expect, may as much as you do, although I do get quite a bit
of stuff from the source of the stuff like with the biggest
chicken operation in the southern hemisphere which is
just down the road and from the producers with stuff
like limes and lemons.

Rod, it is possible that they may have different stocking policies in your
part of the world.

Yeah, it would be interesting to compare. Bit hard
tho because they are so down market that you can't
see their entire offering in all of their stores online.

Initially I used to go in for their promotional items - tools etc and then
tried a few food items and liked them and it grew from there.

I've sort of done it like that, looking at the special
offers online seeing if any of them can justify the
$50 in petrol to get it. None of them have yet.

But also have a mate of mine who needed to
have someone drive him in his own car that
town for medical stuff who did always visit
Aldi when he was there, and saw that with
quite a bit of stuff I do buy much off that
the prices were quite a bit better than I
have paid, particularly with stuff like the
tinned tomatoes I make the relish with.

I still can't just write out my shopping list and expect to get everything
in ALDI

Hardly anyone can here and we know that
from the surveys that have been done here.

My shopping is very different to most tho,
I don’t buy any coffee or tea or beer or spirits
or milk or bread anymore, I make my own of
most of that except the milk coffee and tea.

but in UK they and several other supermarkets supply their prices to
www.mysupermarket.com

I normally only buy stuff that is on special with
the stuff I buy much of and keep very good stocks.

And so I can see exactly who sells what and for how much as well as the
special offers. So far LIDL have refused to play ball with the website but
ALDI, ASDA, Tesco, sainsburys, morrisons waitrose and ocado show their
wares.

We don’t have anything like that here, but everyone does
have proper electronic catalogs of the specials every week
and since I hardly ever buy anything else but specials for the
stuff I buy much of, that works fine for me. Aldi does that here.

Lidl parking
 

"Adrian" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:26:33 +0100, Capitol wrote:

The traffic was still buggered up in the 50s.

London traffic was buggered up several centuries before the 1950s.

The London smogs were appalling.

And, before them, the piles of horse****
in the streets were a health hazard.

Nope, just a nuisance.