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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. |
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Allen writes I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. The chimneys are rendered. Perhaps it is just external insulation over the original structure. -- Tim Lamb |
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote:
anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel- frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway. |
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On 19/09/2015 21:04, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. Isn't the warning sign "Cash Buyers Only"? It probably means that it would be difficult to get a mortgage on it. Possibly not a problem if you have cash to buy it but it may be difficult to sell if you move on. It's also worth asking the owners what is their building insurance premium as it may also give a clue for ongoing costs. -- mailto: news {at} admac {dot] myzen {dot} co {dot} uk |
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Allen writes I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. Looks like a 'Swedish House'; wooden construction. A lot of them in country areas and IIRC the old LCC estate in Burnt Oak-Edgware has hundreds of them. They seem to be still standing after 30 odd years so must be reasonably well made. -- Chris Holford |
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On 19/09/15 22:08, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:16:32 +0000 (UTC), Adrian wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote: anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel- frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway. Not easy to see, but it looks to me as if the outer skin is just vertical shiplap paneling or similar. So, probably timber construction throughout, coated in centuries worth of tar. Get it surveyed. Look for rot, particularly at ground level. Also, highly combustible; fire insurance may be expensive, even if you can get it. It can't be that hard - there are quite a lot of timber clad and timber framed buildings in Kent and East Sussex - some are even new-ish. But I agree that go in with eyes open is wise, but no need to panic just yet. |
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On 19/09/2015 21:04, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. It's a rather fancy garden shed! -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT), Allen
wrote: I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. You may know the area already but just in case you are not familiar with it Netheravon has an airfield where they do a lot of parachute training so there are often small aircraft droning around. The noise isn't in the realm of the flight path to Heathrow but sometimes the buzz of small aircraft can be equally annoying. And the Army are often making a racket with Artillery practice on Salisbury plain. yes the area and around it is fairly nice but it might not be quite as peaceful as living in a country village could be. G.Harman |
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 23:02:49 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel-frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway. Not easy to see, but it looks to me as if the outer skin is just vertical shiplap paneling or similar. So, probably timber construction throughout, coated in centuries worth of tar. Get it surveyed. Look for rot, particularly at ground level. Also, highly combustible; fire insurance may be expensive, even if you can get it. It can't be that hard - there are quite a lot of timber clad and timber framed buildings in Kent and East Sussex - some are even new-ish. Like our 10yo oak-framed extension... Or our garage, that's been up less than a year... Or the hundreds of traditional old black'n'white cottages around these parts. |
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On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:04:10 UTC+1, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. The sort of place you could demolish and build something better. Look at the area/other buildings nearby. Especially if the site/garden is large. It's cheap enough. (Even suspiciously so). Look for the catch, there must be one nearby if not the building itself. It may (not) be something you can get round If it's timber frame you can bet there'll be rot in it somewhere, the rot proofing back then was just creosote. Bits out of sight couldn't be redone so tended to deteriorate. Notably the bit of wood resting on the brick base. Also adjacent to chimneys. Burns well too. Could be a good opportunity/DIY project with a lot of money to be made. ALL DEPENDS ON LOCALITY. The advantage of demolishing a place is that all the services are already there. Big money saving. Also consider two (or more houses) on the site. DON'T buy if chavs live nearby. Pick neighbour's brains/find out what they're like. |
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... On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:04:10 UTC+1, Allen wrote: I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. The sort of place you could demolish and build something better. Look at the area/other buildings nearby. Especially if the site/garden is large. Being a semi, that could be problematical. It's cheap enough. (Even suspiciously so). Look for the catch, there must be one nearby if not the building itself. It may (not) be something you can get round If it's timber frame you can bet there'll be rot in it somewhere, the rot proofing back then was just creosote. Bits out of sight couldn't be redone so tended to deteriorate. Notably the bit of wood resting on the brick base. Also adjacent to chimneys. Burns well too. Could be a good opportunity/DIY project with a lot of money to be made. ALL DEPENDS ON LOCALITY. The advantage of demolishing a place is that all the services are already there. Big money saving. Also consider two (or more houses) on the site. DON'T buy if chavs live nearby. Pick neighbour's brains/find out what they're like. |
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/Being a semi, that could be problematical. /Q
:-D Jim K |
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"Richard" wrote in message
... "harry" wrote in message ... On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:04:10 UTC+1, Allen wrote: I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. The sort of place you could demolish and build something better. Look at the area/other buildings nearby. Especially if the site/garden is large. Being a semi, that could be problematical. :-) -- Adam |
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Hmm, if it was built a while back some wooden frames had asbestos in the
walls so one needs to be a bit careful. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active Remember, if you don't like where I post or what I say, you don't have to read my posts! :-) "Chris Hogg" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 20:16:32 +0000 (UTC), Adrian wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote: anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel- frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway. Not easy to see, but it looks to me as if the outer skin is just vertical shiplap paneling or similar. So, probably timber construction throughout, coated in centuries worth of tar. Get it surveyed. Look for rot, particularly at ground level. Also, highly combustible; fire insurance may be expensive, even if you can get it. -- Chris |
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writes In article , Allen writes I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. Looks like a 'Swedish House'; wooden construction. A lot of them in country areas and IIRC the old LCC estate in Burnt Oak-Edgware has hundreds of them. They seem to be still standing after 30 odd years so must be reasonably well made. 3 built here. Early 1950's. Gift from the people of Sweden and constructed as part of a London overspill council housing project. Now in private ownership they have been clad in brick. Notable for their steep roof pitch. -- Tim Lamb |
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"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 19/09/2015 21:04, Allen wrote: I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. Isn't the warning sign "Cash Buyers Only"? No the warning sign is already stated: "Non standard construction" this means that it is generally un-mortgagable and will thus be cash buyers only This will affect its value both now, and in the future. Probably to the order of 30% below value of an equivalent mortgagable house (accordingly NSCs make excellent BTL investments) But it doesn't, of itself, mean anything else. The house could be perfectly sound in every respect, or it could be a tumbledown Some NSCs can be "corrected" and made up to full value, some cannot (except by knocking down and starting again, of course) |
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the warning sign is already stated: "Non standard construction" Are SIP built houses considered non-standard these days? |
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On 20/09/15 14:12, tim..... wrote:
"alan_m" wrote in message ... On 19/09/2015 21:04, Allen wrote: I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. Isn't the warning sign "Cash Buyers Only"? No the warning sign is already stated: "Non standard construction" The true test will be to arrange a provisional mortgage and get some insurance quotes... |
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Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex loc al authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. There was one like that here and it burnt down. Bill |
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In article , Allen writes I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. Looks like a 'Swedish House'; wooden construction. A lot of them in country areas and IIRC the old LCC estate in Burnt Oak-Edgware has hundreds of them. They seem to be still standing after 30 odd years so must be reasonably well made. The one here that burnt down was called a Norwegian house. Bill |
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2015 16:05:06 +0100, Jonno wrote:
scribbled On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT), Allen wrote: I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. You may know the area already but just in case you are not familiar with it Netheravon has an airfield where they do a lot of parachute training so there are often small aircraft droning around And the Army are often making a racket with Artillery practice on Salisbury plain. Not to mention the hundreds of ****ed up squaddies living in the area. Limited opportunity to get ****ed in Netheravon itself,only one pub ISTR .Tidworth and Bulford are close and the former is rapidly expanding as a good proportion of the Army that is leaving Germany is being accommodated there but even squaddies don't normally trek 3 miles out and then back again across Salisbury Plain to get ****ed. G.Harman |
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"Allen" wrote in message ... I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. It's made of wood HTH |
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On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:16:38 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote: anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel- frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway. I wouldn't trust an EPC to tell me the construction further than I could throw it - with my hands cufflinked behind my back. |
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On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:04:10 UTC+1, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know... http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks. Good range of opinions here, the sort of quality advise I expected, after some thought I'm going to give it a miss. I'm fairly sure it will be standing for a good few years yet, with regular treatment of the wood and maybe a few replacement bits. But the resale problems concern me and being mid 40's it's unlikely to be my last home. |
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