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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.

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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction,
it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly
sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems
quite nice. Thanks.


The chimneys are rendered. Perhaps it is just external insulation over
the original structure.


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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote:

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me


The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel-
frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway.
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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.




Isn't the warning sign "Cash Buyers Only"?

It probably means that it would be difficult to get a mortgage on it.
Possibly not a problem if you have cash to buy it but it may be
difficult to sell if you move on.

It's also worth asking the owners what is their building insurance
premium as it may also give a clue for ongoing costs.

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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not
any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure
it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice.
Thanks.

Looks like a 'Swedish House'; wooden construction. A lot of them in
country areas and IIRC the old LCC estate in Burnt Oak-Edgware has
hundreds of them. They seem to be still standing after 30 odd years so
must be reasonably well made.
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On 19/09/15 22:08, Chris Hogg wrote:
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote:

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me


The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel-
frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway.


Not easy to see, but it looks to me as if the outer skin is just
vertical shiplap paneling or similar. So, probably timber construction
throughout, coated in centuries worth of tar. Get it surveyed. Look
for rot, particularly at ground level. Also, highly combustible; fire
insurance may be expensive, even if you can get it.


It can't be that hard - there are quite a lot of timber clad and timber
framed buildings in Kent and East Sussex - some are even new-ish.

But I agree that go in with eyes open is wise, but no need to panic just
yet.
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On 19/09/2015 21:04, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.


It's a rather fancy garden shed!
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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.


You may know the area already but just in case you are not familiar
with it Netheravon has an airfield where they do a lot of parachute
training so there are often small aircraft droning around. The noise
isn't in the realm of the flight path to Heathrow but sometimes the
buzz of small aircraft can be equally annoying.
And the Army are often making a racket with Artillery practice on
Salisbury plain. yes the area and around it is fairly nice but it
might not be quite as peaceful as living in a country village could
be.

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The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual
steel-frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway.


Not easy to see, but it looks to me as if the outer skin is just
vertical shiplap paneling or similar. So, probably timber construction
throughout, coated in centuries worth of tar. Get it surveyed. Look for
rot, particularly at ground level. Also, highly combustible; fire
insurance may be expensive, even if you can get it.


It can't be that hard - there are quite a lot of timber clad and timber
framed buildings in Kent and East Sussex - some are even new-ish.


Like our 10yo oak-framed extension... Or our garage, that's been up less
than a year... Or the hundreds of traditional old black'n'white cottages
around these parts.
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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.


The sort of place you could demolish and build something better. Look at the area/other buildings nearby.
Especially if the site/garden is large.

It's cheap enough. (Even suspiciously so).
Look for the catch, there must be one nearby if not the building itself. It may (not) be something you can get round

If it's timber frame you can bet there'll be rot in it somewhere, the rot proofing back then was just creosote.
Bits out of sight couldn't be redone so tended to deteriorate.
Notably the bit of wood resting on the brick base. Also adjacent to chimneys.
Burns well too.

Could be a good opportunity/DIY project with a lot of money to be made. ALL DEPENDS ON LOCALITY.

The advantage of demolishing a place is that all the services are already there. Big money saving.
Also consider two (or more houses) on the site.

DON'T buy if chavs live nearby.
Pick neighbour's brains/find out what they're like.


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On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:04:10 UTC+1, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction,
it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly
sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems
quite nice. Thanks.


The sort of place you could demolish and build something better. Look at
the area/other buildings nearby.
Especially if the site/garden is large.


Being a semi, that could be problematical.


It's cheap enough. (Even suspiciously so).
Look for the catch, there must be one nearby if not the building itself. It
may (not) be something you can get round

If it's timber frame you can bet there'll be rot in it somewhere, the rot
proofing back then was just creosote.
Bits out of sight couldn't be redone so tended to deteriorate.
Notably the bit of wood resting on the brick base. Also adjacent to
chimneys.
Burns well too.

Could be a good opportunity/DIY project with a lot of money to be made. ALL
DEPENDS ON LOCALITY.

The advantage of demolishing a place is that all the services are already
there. Big money saving.
Also consider two (or more houses) on the site.

DON'T buy if chavs live nearby.
Pick neighbour's brains/find out what they're like.


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/Being a semi, that could be problematical. /Q

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On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:04:10 UTC+1, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction,
it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly
sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems
quite nice. Thanks.


The sort of place you could demolish and build something better. Look at
the area/other buildings nearby.
Especially if the site/garden is large.


Being a semi, that could be problematical.



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Hmm, if it was built a while back some wooden frames had asbestos in the
walls so one needs to be a bit careful.

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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote:

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me


The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel-
frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway.


Not easy to see, but it looks to me as if the outer skin is just
vertical shiplap paneling or similar. So, probably timber construction
throughout, coated in centuries worth of tar. Get it surveyed. Look
for rot, particularly at ground level. Also, highly combustible; fire
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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction,
it's not
any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure
it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems
quite nice.
Thanks.

Looks like a 'Swedish House'; wooden construction. A lot of them in
country areas and IIRC the old LCC estate in Burnt Oak-Edgware has
hundreds of them. They seem to be still standing after 30 odd years so
must be reasonably well made.


3 built here. Early 1950's. Gift from the people of Sweden and
constructed as part of a London overspill council housing project.

Now in private ownership they have been clad in brick. Notable for their
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On 19/09/2015 21:04, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction,
it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly
sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems
quite nice. Thanks.




Isn't the warning sign "Cash Buyers Only"?


No

the warning sign is already stated: "Non standard construction"

this means that it is generally un-mortgagable and will thus be cash buyers
only

This will affect its value both now, and in the future. Probably to the
order of 30% below value of an equivalent mortgagable house (accordingly
NSCs make excellent BTL investments)

But it doesn't, of itself, mean anything else. The house could be perfectly
sound in every respect, or it could be a tumbledown

Some NSCs can be "corrected" and made up to full value, some cannot (except
by knocking down and starting again, of course)





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the warning sign is already stated: "Non standard construction"


Are SIP built houses considered non-standard these days?

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On 19/09/2015 21:04, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard
construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm
fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the
village seems quite nice. Thanks.




Isn't the warning sign "Cash Buyers Only"?


No

the warning sign is already stated: "Non standard construction"


The true test will be to arrange a provisional mortgage and get some
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al authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.


There was one like that here and it burnt down.

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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not
any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure
it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice.
Thanks.

Looks like a 'Swedish House'; wooden construction. A lot of them in
country areas and IIRC the old LCC estate in Burnt Oak-Edgware has
hundreds of them. They seem to be still standing after 30 odd years so
must be reasonably well made.


The one here that burnt down was called a Norwegian house.

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On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700 (PDT), Allen
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I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.


You may know the area already but just in case you are not familiar
with it Netheravon has an airfield where they do a lot of parachute
training so there are often small aircraft droning around
And the Army are often making a racket with Artillery practice on
Salisbury plain.


Not to mention the hundreds of ****ed up squaddies living in the area.


Limited opportunity to get ****ed in Netheravon itself,only one pub
ISTR .Tidworth and Bulford are close and the former is rapidly
expanding as a good proportion of the Army that is leaving Germany is
being accommodated there but even squaddies don't normally trek 3
miles out and then back again across Salisbury Plain to get ****ed.

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http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

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It's made of wood


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On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:16:38 UTC+1, Adrian wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2015 13:04:05 -0700, Allen wrote:

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me


The full EPC refers to it as timber-frame, which'd rule the usual steel-
frame corrosion or concrete cancer right out, anyway.


I wouldn't trust an EPC to tell me the construction further than I could throw
it - with my hands cufflinked behind my back.
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On Saturday, 19 September 2015 21:04:10 UTC+1, Allen wrote:
I'm think about having a look at a house of non standard construction, it's not any of the non standard types I know...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-...-53106542.html

anyone know what it is, and what problems it might cause me, I'm fairly sure it's ex local authority but I've driven past and the village seems quite nice. Thanks.


Good range of opinions here, the sort of quality advise I expected, after some thought I'm going to give it a miss. I'm fairly sure it will be standing for a good few years yet, with regular treatment of the wood and maybe a few replacement bits. But the resale problems concern me and being mid 40's it's unlikely to be my last home.
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