The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571
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Tony Sayer

On 08/09/2015 08:24, tony sayer wrote:


The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

Probably it is.

But it's nothing new really, remember the 3 day week in the 70's?

There a more sophisticated methods of load shedding these days but if we
persist in closing coal fired power stations and not replacing the time
expired nuclear plants, it could become a reality for us.

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Ash Burton wrote:
On 08/09/2015 08:24, tony sayer wrote:


The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

Probably it is.

But it's nothing new really, remember the 3 day week in the 70's?

But can't be blamed on the unions this time? ;-)

There a more sophisticated methods of load shedding these days but if we
persist in closing coal fired power stations and not replacing the time
expired nuclear plants, it could become a reality for us.

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Seems to be better to spend vast sums on headline grabbing new projects
like HS2. Rather than invest in making sure a system which has worked well
in the past continues to work well.

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On 08/09/15 11:00, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Ash Burton wrote:
On 08/09/2015 08:24, tony sayer wrote:


The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

Probably it is.

But it's nothing new really, remember the 3 day week in the 70's?

But can't be blamed on the unions this time? ;-)

well yes, if you mean the generally socialist attitude towards energy
and the attempts to bring it totally under government control.

Naturally enough, businesses are walking away from investment where
viability, let alone profitability, is at the whim of a government whose
policies are based on ideology and knee jerk political advantage.



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the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
But can't be blamed on the unions this time? ;-)

well yes, if you mean the generally socialist attitude towards energy
and the attempts to bring it totally under government control.

Far far better to leave it all to market forces and natural competition,
as now. Which is why our energy prices are so reasonable.

Which planet are you currently on, Turnip?

Naturally enough, businesses are walking away from investment where
viability, let alone profitability, is at the whim of a government whose
policies are based on ideology and knee jerk political advantage.

Of course. They are waiting around for the biggest handout they can winkle
out of whatever government. As usual. Why would they risk any of their
money when they will be given it anyway?

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Dave Plowman London SW
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On 08/09/15 13:16, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
But can't be blamed on the unions this time? ;-)

well yes, if you mean the generally socialist attitude towards energy
and the attempts to bring it totally under government control.

Far far better to leave it all to market forces and natural competition,
as now. Which is why our energy prices are so reasonable.

It isn't left to market forces, and thats why its so expensive

What planet are you on Dave?


Which planet are you currently on, Turnip?

Naturally enough, businesses are walking away from investment where
viability, let alone profitability, is at the whim of a government whose
policies are based on ideology and knee jerk political advantage.

Of course. They are waiting around for the biggest handout they can winkle
out of whatever government. As usual. Why would they risk any of their
money when they will be given it anyway?

Unreal. They wont risk money because =- as Drax discovered - one moment
they invest 4billion into woodburners and the next the government says
'but that wont qualify for the subsidy we promised you'

Eon EDf and the like look on and say 'sod that for a game of soldiers,
lets build power stations somewhere else where the government stay out
of the market


Its all about controlling a non free market for political and social
purposes. As usual it results in a total ****up.

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New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 11:05:04 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Ash Burton wrote:
On 08/09/2015 08:24, tony sayer wrote:


The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

Probably it is.

But it's nothing new really, remember the 3 day week in the 70's?

But can't be blamed on the unions this time? ;-)

PM Edward Heath made the decision to restrict electricity supplies to three days a week, and then blamed the unions. The public didn't swallow it, that's why the Tories lost the election in 1974, and they still blamed the miners and took it out on them in the 1980's pit closures.

There a more sophisticated methods of load shedding these days but if we
persist in closing coal fired power stations and not replacing the time
expired nuclear plants, it could become a reality for us.

--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: ---

Seems to be better to spend vast sums on headline grabbing new projects
like HS2. Rather than invest in making sure a system which has worked well
in the past continues to work well.

--
*Elephants are the only mammals that can't jump *

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On 09/09/15 08:35, Jaffna Dog wrote:
PM Edward Heath made the decision to restrict electricity supplies to
three days a week, and then blamed the unions. The public didn't
swallow it, that's why the Tories lost the election in 1974, and they
still blamed the miners and took it out on them in the 1980's pit
closures.


As an example of how to rewrite history to fit bigotry and prejudice
this has to be one of the finest examples every produced.


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New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On Wednesday, 9 September 2015 09:51:13 UTC+1, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/09/15 08:35, Jaffna Dog wrote:
PM Edward Heath made the decision to restrict electricity supplies to
three days a week, and then blamed the unions. The public didn't
swallow it, that's why the Tories lost the election in 1974, and they
still blamed the miners and took it out on them in the 1980's pit
closures.


As an example of how to rewrite history to fit bigotry and prejudice
this has to be one of the finest examples every produced.


The unions did not make the decision to restrict supply to a three-day week, Ted Heath did for political reasons, and it backfired. Continuous supply could have been maintained until coal stocks at power stations were exhausted, and then sections of the grid around oil and nuclear plants could have been islanded, and the North Scotland Hydro-Electric run independently from the rest of the Grid.

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New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 08:29:05 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

With the cheap availability of electronics it seems only sensible to roll out something like economy 7 country-wide. Then consumers will be motivated to spend an extra little on appliances that wait when appropriate for cheaper electricity. Fridges, freezers, washing machines and immersion heaters often can, and perhaps small appliances like battery chargers can play the same game.


NT

On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 11:43:32 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 08:29:05 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

With the cheap availability of electronics it seems only sensible to roll out something like economy 7 country-wide. Then consumers will be motivated to spend an extra little on appliances that wait when appropriate for cheaper electricity. Fridges, freezers, washing machines and immersion heaters often can, and perhaps small appliances like battery chargers can play the same game.


NT

It's called a smart meter.

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harry writes
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 11:43:32 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 08:29:05 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:
The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

With the cheap availability of electronics it seems only sensible to
roll out something like economy 7 country-wide. Then consumers will be
motivated to spend an extra little on appliances that wait when
appropriate for cheaper electricity. Fridges, freezers, washing
machines and immersion heaters often can, and perhaps small appliances
like battery chargers can play the same game.


NT

It's called a smart meter.
It's called a thermostat
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bert

On Friday, 11 September 2015 23:54:14 UTC+1, bert wrote:
In article ,
harry writes
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 11:43:32 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 8 September 2015 08:29:05 UTC+1, tony sayer wrote:

The shape of things to come to the UK?....


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34176571

With the cheap availability of electronics it seems only sensible to
roll out something like economy 7 country-wide. Then consumers will be
motivated to spend an extra little on appliances that wait when
appropriate for cheaper electricity. Fridges, freezers, washing
machines and immersion heaters often can, and perhaps small appliances
like battery chargers can play the same game.

It's called a smart meter.

It's called a thermostat

obviously it's neither


NT