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Moving primary phone socket
Looking for advice about relocating my primary telephone socket (not an
extension socket). I found this discussion, http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/mo...-point.101068/ and it seems the necessary bits can be acquired readily, http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-BT-O.../dp/B0085O3O8I Anyone here done this? Any good pointers or pitfalls or I-wish-I'd-knowns? Thanks -- N_i_c_k |
Moving primary phone socket
N_i_c_k wrote:
Looking for advice about relocating my primary telephone socket obviously, you're not supposed to do it, but ignoring that as most would ... Is it moving so the cable will be shortened, lengthened, or neither? |
Moving primary phone socket
On 2015-08-23, Andy Burns wrote:
N_i_c_k wrote: Looking for advice about relocating my primary telephone socket obviously, you're not supposed to do it, but ignoring that as most would ... :-) Is it moving so the cable will be shortened, lengthened, or neither? Shortened, to about 4m. My plan, such as it is, is to throw away the current cable which is about 12m long and replace it with a new one. There is a sort of junction box where the outside phone cable comes into the house and connects to the cable which goes to the primary socket. So I'd have to disconnect the old cable there, connect mine and route mine to the new or reused socket panel. I'd prefer new so it can be surface mounted, my existing socket has a recess into the wall. -- N_i_c_k |
Moving primary phone socket
N_i_c_k wrote:
There is a sort of junction box where the outside phone cable comes into the house With screw connections, or jelly crimps? So long as you use proper CW1308 cable, make sure you don't short anything out while doing it and make a neat job you should be fine, taking a photo before can be helpful. |
Moving primary phone socket
Andy Burns wrote:
N_i_c_k wrote: There is a sort of junction box where the outside phone cable comes into the house With screw connections, or jelly crimps? So long as you use proper CW1308 cable, make sure you don't short anything out while doing it and make a neat job you should be fine, taking a photo before can be helpful. But remember that BT put 1kV into the phone cable at random intervals to discourage DIY. Fred |
Moving primary phone socket
On 2015-08-23, Andy Burns wrote:
N_i_c_k wrote: There is a sort of junction box where the outside phone cable comes into the house With screw connections, or jelly crimps? Jelly, like these http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B007FGYV3Y So long as you use proper CW1308 cable, make sure you don't short anything out while doing it and make a neat job you should be fine, taking a photo before can be helpful. Sounds good - thanks! -- N_i_c_k |
Moving primary phone socket
On 2015-08-23, Bill Wright wrote:
But remember that BT put 1kV into the phone cable at random intervals to discourage DIY. That's shocking. -- N_i_c_k |
Moving primary phone socket
N_i_c_k wrote:
On 2015-08-23, Bill Wright wrote: But remember that BT put 1kV into the phone cable at random intervals to discourage DIY. That's shocking. And possibly ********? Tim |
Moving primary phone socket
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 20:33:57 UTC+1, N_i_c_k wrote:
Anyone here done this? Any good pointers or pitfalls or I-wish-I'd-knowns? Don't use copper-clad aluminium cable, it doesn't comply with CW1308 but is sometimes sold as such. Use the latest (Mk 3?) filter faceplate. Owain |
Moving primary phone socket
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 21:17:00 +0100, Bill Wright
wrote: Andy Burns wrote: N_i_c_k wrote: There is a sort of junction box where the outside phone cable comes into the house With screw connections, or jelly crimps? So long as you use proper CW1308 cable, make sure you don't short anything out while doing it and make a neat job you should be fine, taking a photo before can be helpful. But remember that BT put 1kV into the phone cable at random intervals to discourage DIY. Fred Easily dealt with , before commencing work contact the operator give them a number and ask to reverse the charges. G.Harman |
Moving primary phone socket
On 2015-08-23, wrote:
Use the latest (Mk 3?) filter faceplate. Thanks - this? http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-BT-O.../dp/B00NMUXPOS which it looks like is installed in this http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-BT-O.../dp/B007ZH2PFY ? -- N_i_c_k |
Moving primary phone socket
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:29:21 +0000 (UTC), N_i_c_k wrote:
But remember that BT put 1kV into the phone cable at random intervals to discourage DIY. That's shocking. I can assure you the normal 50 V DC on a Direct Exchange Line (ordinary phone line) is pretty shocking when you are up a ladder putting on the talkback, music and control lines for an outside broadcast in the peeing rain with you, the block and everything soaking wet. -- Cheers Dave. |
Moving primary phone socket
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Moving primary phone socket
On 23/08/2015 22:26, N_i_c_k wrote:
On 2015-08-23, wrote: Use the latest (Mk 3?) filter faceplate. Thanks - this? http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-BT-O.../dp/B00NMUXPOS which it looks like is installed in this http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-BT-O.../dp/B007ZH2PFY ? You might find https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technic...e%20Wiring.htm useful. The only amendment I would suggest is only connect the blue/bluewhite as all modern phones work with two wires, it's only fairly old ones that need the ringing connection (orange/orange white) and that, if installed, can/may be detremental to your broadband speed. Peter |
Moving primary phone socket
On Sunday, 23 August 2015 22:28:29 UTC+1, N_i_c_k wrote:
Use the latest (Mk 3?) filter faceplate. Thanks - this? http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-BT-O.../dp/B00NMUXPOS That's the way to do it. Owain |
Moving primary phone socket
En el artículo o.uk,
Dave Liquorice escribió: I can assure you the normal 50 V DC on a Direct Exchange Line (ordinary phone line) is pretty shocking Just you wait until someone rings it. Been there, done that. -- (\_/) (='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke! (")_(") |
Moving primary phone socket
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 19:32:11 +0000 (UTC), N_i_c_k
wrote: Looking for advice about relocating my primary telephone socket (not an extension socket). I found this discussion, http://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/mo...-point.101068/ and it seems the necessary bits can be acquired readily, http://www.amazon.co.uk/GENUINE-BT-O.../dp/B0085O3O8I Anyone here done this? Any good pointers or pitfalls or I-wish-I'd-knowns? http://www.rob-r.co.uk/other/UKphonecatwiring.htm |
Moving primary phone socket
Mike Tomlinson wrote in news:YsL1vFQcSu2VFw
: En el artículo o.uk, Dave Liquorice escribió: I can assure you the normal 50 V DC on a Direct Exchange Line (ordinary phone line) is pretty shocking Just you wait until someone rings it. Been there, done that. MY house had a BT instalation. Then I went to Virgin. The BT underground wire was disconnected in the grey box outside and the wire from the Virgin box was joined to the wire in the box that comes into the house. I recently replaced the wire as I wanted to reroute it directly to the Virgin box. I have burried the BT box. Who might I have upset? |
Moving primary phone socket
In message , Bill Wright
writes Andy Burns wrote: N_i_c_k wrote: There is a sort of junction box where the outside phone cable comes into the house With screw connections, or jelly crimps? So long as you use proper CW1308 cable, make sure you don't short anything out while doing it and make a neat job you should be fine, taking a photo before can be helpful. But remember that BT put 1kV into the phone cable at random intervals to discourage DIY. Fred I used to have a commercially made device that did just that. It was a 1960s vintage bug detector and destroyer. Not sure how BT would react to its use today. It had a big red button marked "Destroy" !!!!! -- Bill ( A different one ) |
Moving primary phone socket
In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 20:29:21 +0000 (UTC), N_i_c_k wrote: But remember that BT put 1kV into the phone cable at random intervals to discourage DIY. That's shocking. I can assure you the normal 50 V DC on a Direct Exchange Line (ordinary phone line) is pretty shocking when you are up a ladder putting on the talkback, music and control lines for an outside broadcast in the peeing rain with you, the block and everything soaking wet. I had a customer with leased lines that carried audio, they were a bit shocked one day when BT decided to phone them up. The ringing volts were a bit LOUD apparently the monitor speaker nearly jumped off the desk. -- Bill ( A different one ) |
Moving primary phone socket
DerbyBorn wrote:
I have burried the BT box. Who might I have upset? Whoever in future wants a BT line connecting; they're likely to pay full whack for a new connection rather than a few quid to reconnect. |
Moving primary phone socket
Andy Burns wrote in
o.uk: DerbyBorn wrote: I have burried the BT box. Who might I have upset? Whoever in future wants a BT line connecting; they're likely to pay full whack for a new connection rather than a few quid to reconnect. When I say "buried", the underground cable still goes to it from a pavement manhole. The grey box was just taken off the wall and put under some decorative pebbles. Virgin were the first to "abuse it" by linking through it. As you suggest though - it won't be my problem unless BT comes up with something to beat my Virgin service. |
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