I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road. There
were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided tarmac and
replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely migrate into the
soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby where the edges are always
in need of repair - but without drains and kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road. There
were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided tarmac and
replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely migrate into the
soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby where the edges are always
in need of repair - but without drains and kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class
of road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris
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Plant amazing Acers.

In article , DerbyBorn
wrote:
I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road. There
were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided tarmac
and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely migrate
into the soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby where the
edges are always in need of repair - but without drains and kurbs I feel
it is fruitless.

nothing new, I saw that technique in the Highlands of Scotland 50* years
ago.

Chris J Dixon wrote in
:

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided
tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely
migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby
where the edges are always in need of repair - but without drains and
kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class
of road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris

A bit of machinery instead of blokes with barrows and spades. Use a rotary
cutting machine to make a trench for the edge, Cast a concrete kurb. Then
repair the road with tarmac up to the kurb. Continuous casting machines are
used to make centre barriers - I would think a version of this tech could
be used to fill the trench and provide a haunch.

In article 6, DerbyBorn
wrote:
Chris J Dixon wrote in
:

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided
tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely
migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby where
the edges are always in need of repair - but without drains and kurbs I
feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class of
road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris

A bit of machinery instead of blokes with barrows and spades. Use a
rotary cutting machine to make a trench for the edge, Cast a concrete
kurb. Then repair the road with tarmac up to the kurb. Continuous
casting machines are used to make centre barriers - I would think a
version of this tech could be used to fill the trench and provide a
haunch.

But, if there are no drains and a continuous kerb is created, where does
the rain water go?

In article ,
Charles Hope wrote:
In article , DerbyBorn
wrote:
I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided
tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely
migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby
where the edges are always in need of repair - but without drains and
kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

nothing new, I saw that technique in the Highlands of Scotland 50* years
ago.

What they don't show you is the odd upright stone installed as perhaps a
marker for something which gets overgrown, then demolishes your suspension
when you pull in as far as possible for that tractor...

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Charles Hope wrote in
:

In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Chris J Dixon wrote in
:

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the
subsided tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it
will merely migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used
lanes nearby where the edges are always in need of repair - but
without drains and kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class of
road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris

A bit of machinery instead of blokes with barrows and spades. Use a
rotary cutting machine to make a trench for the edge, Cast a concrete
kurb. Then repair the road with tarmac up to the kurb. Continuous
casting machines are used to make centre barriers - I would think a
version of this tech could be used to fill the trench and provide a
haunch.

But, if there are no drains and a continuous kerb is created, where
does the rain water go?

My kerb would be low and the tarmac would be flush to its top. The rain
would then run off into the soil.

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...

Charles Hope wrote in
:

In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Chris J Dixon wrote in
:

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the
subsided tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it
will merely migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used
lanes nearby where the edges are always in need of repair - but
without drains and kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class of
road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris

A bit of machinery instead of blokes with barrows and spades. Use a
rotary cutting machine to make a trench for the edge, Cast a concrete
kurb. Then repair the road with tarmac up to the kurb. Continuous
casting machines are used to make centre barriers - I would think a
version of this tech could be used to fill the trench and provide a
haunch.

But, if there are no drains and a continuous kerb is created, where
does the rain water go?

My kerb would be low and the tarmac would be flush to its top. The rain
would then run off into the soil.

Approach a bank/venture capitalist and get your road repair company running
ASAP.
Post back when up and running.

On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 17:29:36 +0000, DerbyBorn wrote:

Charles Hope wrote in
:

In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Chris J Dixon wrote in
:

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided
tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely
migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby
where the edges are always in need of repair - but without drains
and kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class of
road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris

A bit of machinery instead of blokes with barrows and spades. Use a
rotary cutting machine to make a trench for the edge, Cast a concrete
kurb. Then repair the road with tarmac up to the kurb. Continuous
casting machines are used to make centre barriers - I would think a
version of this tech could be used to fill the trench and provide a
haunch.

But, if there are no drains and a continuous kerb is created, where
does the rain water go?

My kerb would be low and the tarmac would be flush to its top. The rain
would then run off into the soil.

The road I use my way to work [1] is a mixture of the two. Newer bits
have the flat curb and older bits have the 'migrating tarmnac'. They're
closing it again for two weeks so a bit more will no doubt be
'converted'. I first started using that road over 40 years ago when it
was narrow and very convex (you slid off if it was icy). One day it will
all be done.

[1] But only until December when I 'retire'. (FSVO 'retire').

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
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I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road. There
were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided tarmac and
replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely migrate into the
soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby where the edges are
always
in need of repair - but without drains and kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

Plenty of ours have no kerbs or drains and it works fine.

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.236...
Chris J Dixon wrote in
:

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the subsided
tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it will merely
migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used lanes nearby
where the edges are always in need of repair - but without drains and
kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class
of road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris

A bit of machinery instead of blokes with barrows and spades. Use a rotary
cutting machine to make a trench for the edge, Cast a concrete kurb. Then
repair the road with tarmac up to the kurb. Continuous casting machines
are
used to make centre barriers - I would think a version of this tech could
be used to fill the trench and provide a haunch.

Much more expensive than what they are doing that works fine.

"DerbyBorn" wrote in message
2.222...
Charles Hope wrote in
:

In article 6,
DerbyBorn wrote:
Chris J Dixon wrote in
:

DerbyBorn wrote:

I was bemused watching a gang reparing the edges of a country road.
There were no kerbs and no drains. They dug out some of the
subsided tarmac and replaced it. A total waste of materials as it
will merely migrate into the soft verges. We have some well used
lanes nearby where the edges are always in need of repair - but
without drains and kurbs I feel it is fruitless.

So, how much are you proposing to allocate to improve this class of
road, and what is the break-even point?

Chris

A bit of machinery instead of blokes with barrows and spades. Use a
rotary cutting machine to make a trench for the edge, Cast a concrete
kurb. Then repair the road with tarmac up to the kurb. Continuous
casting machines are used to make centre barriers - I would think a
version of this tech could be used to fill the trench and provide a
haunch.

But, if there are no drains and a continuous kerb is created, where
does the rain water go?

My kerb would be low and the tarmac would be flush to its top. The rain
would then run off into the soil.

I'm not aware of any jurisdiction that does it like that and there must be
a reason that they don’t.

On 22/07/2015 18:29, DerbyBorn wrote:
My kerb would be low and the tarmac would be flush to its top. The rain
would then run off into the soil.

First time it get resurfaced the new level will be above the kerb. You
then begin to get migrating tarmac...

Not that I really think that's much of a problem.

Andy

Vir Campestris wrote in news:-o-
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On 22/07/2015 18:29, DerbyBorn wrote:
My kerb would be low and the tarmac would be flush to its top. The rain
would then run off into the soil.

First time it get resurfaced the new level will be above the kerb. You
then begin to get migrating tarmac...

Not that I really think that's much of a problem.

Andy


Old surfaces should always be planed off and recycled! This also avoids
having to adjust levels.

On 24/07/15 09:47, DerbyBorn wrote:
Vir Campestris wrote in news:-o-
:

On 22/07/2015 18:29, DerbyBorn wrote:
My kerb would be low and the tarmac would be flush to its top. The rain
would then run off into the soil.

First time it get resurfaced the new level will be above the kerb. You
then begin to get migrating tarmac...

Not that I really think that's much of a problem.

Andy


Old surfaces should always be planed off and recycled! This also avoids
having to adjust levels.


Or simply spray with tar and sprinkle some gravel - it looks great.

For about 3 days...

On 22/07/2015 16:50, Charles Hope wrote:

But, if there are no drains and a continuous kerb is created, where does
the rain water go?


A new roundabout is being built near us and the concrete kerb stones
have holes in them - about 2" diameter and a foot apart. I can't see any
conventional drains in the road surface. Maybe that's common but I've
not seen it before.

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