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Wind turbines a complete waste of money
We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are.
The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. -- Bod |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 15:48, Chris Hogg wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 15:27:16 +0100, Bod wrote: We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. Nothing new there then. Have you a link to the source of that tasty morsel? http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/n...time/index.htm |
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Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Bod" wrote in message ... We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. Drivel. Do you actually know the difference between payback time and efficiency? http://www.theguardian.com/environme...analysis-finds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of...rce#Wind_power |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 17:19, harryagain wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message ... We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. Drivel. Do you actually know the difference between payback time and efficiency? http://www.theguardian.com/environme...analysis-finds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of...rce#Wind_power http://waldenlabs.com/the-truth-about-wind-power/ |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 17:26, Bod wrote:
On 05/05/2015 17:19, harryagain wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. Drivel. Do you actually know the difference between payback time and efficiency? http://www.theguardian.com/environme...analysis-finds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of...rce#Wind_power http://waldenlabs.com/the-truth-about-wind-power/ AND: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...-revealed.html |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... I watched the twin towers live, it wasn't nice either. You could see them jumping. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 17:19, harryagain wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. Drivel. Do you actually know the difference between payback time and efficiency? http://www.theguardian.com/environme...analysis-finds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of...rce#Wind_power http://waldenlabs.com/the-truth-about-wind-power/ What has an article a bout the USA (completely different weather /politics) got to do with the UK? |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 18:57, Dennis@home wrote:
On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... I watched the twin towers live, it wasn't nice either. You could see them jumping. Yes, it was sad and sickening. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:38:43 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs I'd find that alleged[1] 2013 incident more believable if I could find a single mainstream media or industry report for it. Having failed to verify the first story in the video, I didn't bother going any further with it. [1] Alleged because all the reports I can find for it seem to be based in social media, groups with an anti wind energy bias, or pseudo-news generators. -- Denis McMahon, |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
Denis McMahon scribbled
On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:38:43 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs I'd find that alleged[1] 2013 incident more believable if I could find a single mainstream media or industry report for it. Having failed to verify the first story in the video, I didn't bother going any further with it. [1] Alleged because all the reports I can find for it seem to be based in social media, groups with an anti wind energy bias, or pseudo-news generators. I found it. Try harder. http://renews.biz/52979/two-dead-aft...-turbine-fire/ http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment..._engineers_die d_when_the_windmill/ |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:34:18 +0100, Jonno wrote:
Denis McMahon scribbled On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:38:43 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs I'd find that alleged[1] 2013 incident more believable if I could find a single mainstream media or industry report for it. Having failed to verify the first story in the video, I didn't bother going any further with it. [1] Alleged because all the reports I can find for it seem to be based in social media, groups with an anti wind energy bias, or pseudo-news generators. http://renews.biz/52979/two-dead-aft...-turbine-fire/ Looks like an industry interest. http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment..._engineers_die d_when_the_windmill/ Social media. BBC News? Telegraph? Guardian? Mainstream Netherlands Media? .... -- Denis McMahon, |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote:
On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. -- Colin Bignell |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 22:24, Denis McMahon wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:34:18 +0100, Jonno wrote: Denis McMahon scribbled On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:38:43 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs I'd find that alleged[1] 2013 incident more believable if I could find a single mainstream media or industry report for it. Having failed to verify the first story in the video, I didn't bother going any further with it. [1] Alleged because all the reports I can find for it seem to be based in social media, groups with an anti wind energy bias, or pseudo-news generators. http://renews.biz/52979/two-dead-aft...-turbine-fire/ Looks like an industry interest. http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment..._engineers_die d_when_the_windmill/ Social media. BBC News? Telegraph? Guardian? No particular reason why they would cover an industrial accident abroad. Mainstream Netherlands Media? .... I don't read Dutch, but it is on an English language Dutch news site: http://www.nltimes.nl/2013/10/30/dea...ooltgensplaat/ -- Colin Bignell |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. Much less viable for those who have never used one. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 23:24, Rod Speed wrote:
"Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. Much less viable for those who have never used one. The same is true of many safety devices, which is why the people who might need to use them get training. -- Colin Bignell |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 23:24, Rod Speed wrote: "Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. Much less viable for those who have never used one. The same is true of many safety devices, which is why the people who might need to use them get training. They don’t with those in the twin towers situation being discussed. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On Tue, 05 May 2015 23:16:59 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 05/05/2015 22:24, Denis McMahon wrote: On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:34:18 +0100, Jonno wrote: Denis McMahon scribbled On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:38:43 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs I'd find that alleged[1] 2013 incident more believable if I could find a single mainstream media or industry report for it. Having failed to verify the first story in the video, I didn't bother going any further with it. [1] Alleged because all the reports I can find for it seem to be based in social media, groups with an anti wind energy bias, or pseudo-news generators. http://renews.biz/52979/two-dead-aft...-turbine-fire/ Looks like an industry interest. http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/1q0sca/ last_week_two_engineers_die d_when_the_windmill/ Social media. BBC News? Telegraph? Guardian? No particular reason why they would cover an industrial accident abroad. Mainstream Netherlands Media? .... I don't read Dutch, but it is on an English language Dutch news site: http://www.nltimes.nl/2013/10/30/dea...-wind-turbine- ooltgensplaat/ Yes, that's the pseudo news generator I was talking about. Click their "about" link. They have a total staff of 4. They may not be a spoof site, but they're not mainstream news. They do seem to be the source quoted for some other media organisations, eg a local county paper somewhere in the USA quoted them. This rather graphic image of people having to choose between jumping to almost certain death or being burned alive is the sort of thing that rags such as the mirror, mail, sun, star, even daily express these days seem to thrive on, and yet none of them picked it up. I'm not saying it didn't happen (at the moment), I'm saying I'm very sceptical about the reports I've seen so far. -- Denis McMahon, |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 17:19, harryagain wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. Drivel. Do you actually know the difference between payback time and efficiency? http://www.theguardian.com/environme...analysis-finds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of...rce#Wind_power http://waldenlabs.com/the-truth-about-wind-power/ What has an article about the USA got to do with us? |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 17:26, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 17:19, harryagain wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. Drivel. Do you actually know the difference between payback time and efficiency? http://www.theguardian.com/environme...analysis-finds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of...rce#Wind_power http://waldenlabs.com/the-truth-about-wind-power/ AND: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/eart...-revealed.html You never read that did you? Wind farms are not about creating jobs ****-fer-brains. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
Denis McMahon wrote:
I'm not saying it didn't happen (at the moment), I'm saying I'm very sceptical about the reports I've seen so far. You think they send fire engines, ambulances and helicopters to wind turbines for the hell of it? https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbm=vid&q=turbine+Ooltgensplaat You might need to turn on subtitles and Dutch-English translation of them. http://www.rijksoverheid.nl/bestanden/documenten-en-publicaties/kamerstukken/2013/11/26/beantwoording-kamervragen-veiligheid-windturbines/beantwoording-kamervragen-veiligheid-windturbines.pdf "answers to parliamentary questions member of the Jansen (SP) on the external and internal security of wind turbines. Those questions have been raised as a result of a fire in a wind turbine Ooltgensplaat where two technicians were killed." "Inspectie SZW was commissioned by the Public Prosecution investigation launched into the accident Ooltgensplaat" Inspectie SZW = Inspectorate for Social Affairs and Employment ~= H&S Rijksoverheid = Government |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
Not a complete waste of time as everything wears out. However I do think all
renewables are based on calculations which cannot be substantiated. IE climate and wind in particular are pretty transient things to base a whole industry on. I am reminded of the speed that old sailing clippers were replaced by steam power once it became an option, as the wind was fickle and it meant many ports had to have reliable trade winds nearby. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Bod" wrote in message ... We've all been spun bull**** about how efficient they are. The payback time is probably somewhere over a 100 years. They need to be renewed about every 20 to 30 years and many cost over a Hundred grand each. -- Bod |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 06/05/2015 02:40, Rod Speed wrote:
"Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 23:24, Rod Speed wrote: "Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. Much less viable for those who have never used one. The same is true of many safety devices, which is why the people who might need to use them get training. They don’t with those in the twin towers situation being discussed. That is a different part of the thread. This bit is about wind turbine maintenance staff. -- Colin Bignell |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 06/05/2015 02:40, Rod Speed wrote: "Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 23:24, Rod Speed wrote: "Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. Much less viable for those who have never used one. The same is true of many safety devices, which is why the people who might need to use them get training. They don’t with those in the twin towers situation being discussed. That is a different part of the thread. This bit is about wind turbine maintenance staff. Makes no sense to use parachutes in that situation. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/2015 23:08, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote:
On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 06/05/2015 03:05, Denis McMahon wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 23:16:59 +0100, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote: .... I don't read Dutch, but it is on an English language Dutch news site: http://www.nltimes.nl/2013/10/30/dea...-wind-turbine- ooltgensplaat/ Yes, that's the pseudo news generator I was talking about. Click their "about" link. They have a total staff of 4. That is fairly common for foreign language news sources. They don't have reporters, merely translators who take news stories from other media. They may not be a spoof site, but they're not mainstream news. They do seem to be the source quoted for some other media organisations, eg a local county paper somewhere in the USA quoted them. This rather graphic image of people having to choose between jumping to almost certain death or being burned alive is the sort of thing that rags such as the mirror, mail, sun, star, even daily express these days seem to thrive on, and yet none of them picked it up. It would be unusual if one picked it up and not the others, as that sort of story would come through a news agency, not from their own reporters, so it would probably be more accurate to say that Reuters didn't pick up on it. I'm not saying it didn't happen (at the moment), I'm saying I'm very sceptical about the reports I've seen so far. The video looks real enough. What is your problem with it? Deaths among people working on wind turbines are common enough to give them a death rate of 0.15 per TWh. -- Colin Bignell |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 06/05/2015 09:10, Bod wrote:
On 05/05/2015 23:08, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. Have to use wire rope then, or have a hang glider stored in every turbine housing. :-) -- Colin Bignell |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 06/05/15 08:34, Brian-Gaff wrote:
However I do think all renewables are based on calculations I don't. -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. Have to use wire rope then, or have a hang glider stored in every turbine housing. :-) Lol. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/15 21:34, Jonno wrote:
Denis McMahon scribbled On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:38:43 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs I'd find that alleged[1] 2013 incident more believable if I could find a single mainstream media or industry report for it. Having failed to verify the first story in the video, I didn't bother going any further with it. [1] Alleged because all the reports I can find for it seem to be based in social media, groups with an anti wind energy bias, or pseudo-news generators. I found it. Try harder. http://renews.biz/52979/two-dead-aft...-turbine-fire/ http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment..._engineers_die d_when_the_windmill/ Yep. its very strange - I saw in a local paper some years ago that a man had been killed at Felixstowe docks when a wind turbine blade being unloaded fell on him. Never been able to find it online since. -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 23:08, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. Base jumpers do it a lot lower than that. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 05/05/15 22:24, Denis McMahon wrote:
On Tue, 05 May 2015 21:34:18 +0100, Jonno wrote: Denis McMahon scribbled On Tue, 05 May 2015 16:38:43 +0100, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs I'd find that alleged[1] 2013 incident more believable if I could find a single mainstream media or industry report for it. Having failed to verify the first story in the video, I didn't bother going any further with it. [1] Alleged because all the reports I can find for it seem to be based in social media, groups with an anti wind energy bias, or pseudo-news generators. http://renews.biz/52979/two-dead-aft...-turbine-fire/ Looks like an industry interest. http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comment..._engineers_die d_when_the_windmill/ Social media. BBC News? Telegraph? Guardian? Mainstream Netherlands Media? .... Not important enough and doesn't fit their lefty agenda. Of course if it had been a nuclear power station.... -- Everything you read in newspapers is absolutely true, except for the rare story of which you happen to have first-hand knowledge. €“ Erwin Knoll |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Nightjar.me.uk" "cpb"@ insert my surname here wrote in message ... On 06/05/2015 09:10, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 23:08, Nightjar "cpb"@ wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:23, Bod wrote: On 05/05/2015 18:01, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: "Bod" wrote in message ... On 05/05/2015 16:38, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote: and dangerous....... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsWPnpZLiLs Crikey. not a nice way to go...... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. Have to use wire rope then, Yeah, a fire proof rope makes a lot more sense. or have a hang glider stored in every turbine housing. :-) Ejector seat. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. Base jumpers do it a lot lower than that. How much lower, what is the minimum height? |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On Wed, 06 May 2015 08:34:37 +0100, Brian-Gaff wrote:
However I do think all renewables are based on calculations which cannot be substantiated. A bit like the real cost of nuclear power then? -- Aspersions don't float. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
"Bod" wrote in message ... An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. Base jumpers do it a lot lower than that. How much lower, what is the minimum height? There isn't one, which is the reason that more than 250 of the fools have ended up dead. |
Wind turbines a complete waste of money
On 06/05/2015 09:35, Bod wrote:
An absailing rope and a point to hook it onto, might be handy for the future or even just a rope. At least it would give them a chance of descending relatively safely. A rope might burn through. I think I'd prefer a parachute if the tower were high enough. From my parachuting days, I seem to remember that the minimum height for a chute to open is about 500ft and that's assuming that the chute opens perfectly, which is not always the case. Base jumpers do it a lot lower than that. How much lower, what is the minimum height? It seems that one did it from the Whispering Gallery in St Paul's Cathedral. Having said that, most seem to agree that 500ft is the minimum safe height. -- Colin Bignell |
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