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Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to addextention to my property.
Hi All,
Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding toadd extention to my property.
On 19/01/15 16:25, AD wrote:
Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. A diagram, in ascii art or sketched, photographed and posted to tinypic would be very useful... |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
"AD" wrote in message ... Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. Bring your side wall in by 6 inches and leave a gap for his extractor to vent into, will you miss 150mm of space on that side of your kitchen? Sure it means that he won't be able to access his extractor fan in the future but that's his problem. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to addextention to my property.
On Monday, 19 January 2015 16:50:12 UTC, Phil L wrote:
Bring your side wall in by 6 inches and leave a gap for his extractor to vent into, will you miss 150mm of space on that side of your kitchen? Sure it means that he won't be able to access his extractor fan in the future but that's his problem. Why not attach a right-angle round to rectangular adapter to his exhaust duct and then bring a rectangular duct out to roof level through your wall cavity as it is being built? He will not lose access to the fan as that is normally in the cooker hood itself. This might solve the problem cheaply and amicably. You really don't want him to discharge into a narrow gap between the properties as the humidity of the extracted air might cause problems with any timber there. A separate question is whether he even has the right to discharge into your back garden at all. John |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
In article ,
"Phil L" writes: "AD" wrote in message ... Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. Bring your side wall in by 6 inches and leave a gap for his extractor to vent into, will you miss 150mm of space on that side of your kitchen? or even just extend the vent pipe with a bend to take it around and up out of your roof, but box it in with a sound-proof and fireproof construction, so nothing that happens in their side can transfer through into your building. (Some of this depends if the wall has been built on the boundary as a party wall, or if it's on their side and just their wall.) Sure it means that he won't be able to access his extractor fan in the future but that's his problem. Some years ago, I came across a similar situation where a neighbour put a window into an extended party wall. That was not part of their planning consent, so the neighbour was allowed to brick up their side of it when they did their extension. -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to addextention to my property.
On Monday, 19 January 2015 16:25:16 UTC, AD wrote:
Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. I think you mean "preventing" At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore preventing us from carrying out any work at this stage. My neighbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didn't really provide any useful information. Can I suggest posting this to uk.legal.moderated for an opinion on whether your neighbour is entitled to extract his kitchen into your garden? |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding toadd extention to my property.
On 19/01/2015 17:30, Martin Bonner wrote:
Can I suggest posting this to uk.legal.moderated for an opinion on whether your neighbour is entitled to extract his kitchen into your garden? And ask your solicitor? |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
AD wrote:
Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. Does his extension come right up to the property boundary? I would have thought that it was illegal/improper to discharge anything directly into a neighbour property boundaries like this. I would start by making enquiries with your local council to check any plans and to determine when planning permission was sought and granted. If planning permission wasn't needed, I would have thought building control would still have something to say about it. At the very least, it's f*cking inconsiderate. Tim |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
I'd have thought building control should have been all over this like a
(expensive) rash myself. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "AD" wrote in message ... Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding toadd extention to my property.
On 19/01/2015 17:59, Tim+ wrote:
AD wrote: Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. Does his extension come right up to the property boundary? I would have thought that it was illegal/improper to discharge anything directly into a neighbour property boundaries like this. I would start by making enquiries with your local council to check any plans and to determine when planning permission was sought and granted. If planning permission wasn't needed, I would have thought building control would still have something to say about it. At the very least, it's f*cking inconsiderate. The property might have been built like this, where the neighbour might well have this right through established practice rather than encroachment. Boundary plans are also only nominal. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
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Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:59:34 +0000, Tim+
wrote: I would start by making enquiries with your local council to check any plans and to determine when planning permission was sought and granted. If planning permission wasn't needed, I would have thought building control would still have something to say about it. I might have been permitted development, in fact they both might be. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
In article , Peter Johnson
wrote: On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 17:59:34 +0000, Tim+ wrote: I would start by making enquiries with your local council to check any plans and to determine when planning permission was sought and granted. If planning permission wasn't needed, I would have thought building control would still have something to say about it. I might have been permitted development, in fact they both might be. permitted development doesn't get round Building Control or the Building Regulations. -- From KT24 in Surrey Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to addextention to my property.
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:25:16 PM UTC, AD wrote:
Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. Certainly should have been sorted out earlier, but the best solution might be for you to finance the move of the vent, as long as a sensible design and costing can be agreed. All depends on the layout of their kitchen, etc. Have you got a quote from your builders ? It might only be a few hundred quid. Simon. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
sm_jamieson wrote:
On Monday, January 19, 2015 at 4:25:16 PM UTC, AD wrote: Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. Certainly should have been sorted out earlier, but the best solution might be for you to finance the move of the vent, as long as a sensible design and costing can be agreed. All depends on the layout of their kitchen, etc. Have you got a quote from your builders ? It might only be a few hundred quid. Simon. I would offer to pay for anything before establishing whether the existing extractor meets building regulations. I strongly suspect that it doesn't. Tim |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to addextention to my property.
/would/q ? Or wouldn't??
Jim K |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
JimK wrote:
/would/q ? Or wouldn't?? Jim K Indeed, should have been wouldn't. Tim |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding toadd extention to my property.
On 20/01/2015 16:39, Tim+ wrote:
JimK wrote: /would/q ? Or wouldn't?? Jim K Indeed, should have been wouldn't. Tim Why? In order to mitigate costs you could pay under protest with the right to request a refund if the neighbour had no right to net over your property? At least you can then get on with things, and if he doesn't agree, just say he'll be saddled with the daily rate of the builder and labourers at £x00 per day? |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
Fredxxx wrote:
On 20/01/2015 16:39, Tim+ wrote: JimK wrote: /would/q ? Or wouldn't?? Jim K Indeed, should have been wouldn't. Tim Why? In order to mitigate costs you could pay under protest with the right to request a refund if the neighbour had no right to net over your property? At least you can then get on with things, and if he doesn't agree, just say he'll be saddled with the daily rate of the builder and labourers at £x00 per day? Why do all that before picking up the phone to the council and asking building control as to legality of it? Shouldn't take long. If it's illegal advise the neighbour and give him a reasonable time to sort it out. It it is legal, then negotiate with the neighbour to re-site the extractor outlet. Tim |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
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, Tim+ wrote: Fredxxx wrote: On 20/01/2015 16:39, Tim+ wrote: JimK wrote: /would/q ? Or wouldn't?? Jim K Indeed, should have been wouldn't. Tim Why? In order to mitigate costs you could pay under protest with the right to request a refund if the neighbour had no right to net over your property? At least you can then get on with things, and if he doesn't agree, just say he'll be saddled with the daily rate of the builder and labourers at £x00 per day? Why do all that before picking up the phone to the council and asking building control as to legality of it? Shouldn't take long. If it's illegal advise the neighbour and give him a reasonable time to sort it out. It it is legal, then negotiate with the neighbour to re-site the extractor outlet. You might even find that the neighbour's extension was built without Building Control's knowledge. -- From KT24 in Surrey Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding toadd extention to my property.
On 20/01/2015 18:07, charles wrote:
In article , Tim+ wrote: Fredxxx wrote: On 20/01/2015 16:39, Tim+ wrote: JimK wrote: /would/q ? Or wouldn't?? Jim K Indeed, should have been wouldn't. Tim Why? In order to mitigate costs you could pay under protest with the right to request a refund if the neighbour had no right to net over your property? At least you can then get on with things, and if he doesn't agree, just say he'll be saddled with the daily rate of the builder and labourers at £x00 per day? Why do all that before picking up the phone to the council and asking building control as to legality of it? Shouldn't take long. If it's illegal advise the neighbour and give him a reasonable time to sort it out. It it is legal, then negotiate with the neighbour to re-site the extractor outlet. You might even find that the neighbour's extension was built without Building Control's knowledge. I would be surprised if it was done without BC. If it was, it would be useful to look at the plans either way. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to add extention to my property.
In message , Fredxxx
writes On 20/01/2015 18:07, charles wrote: In article -septem ber.org, Tim+ wrote: Fredxxx wrote: On 20/01/2015 16:39, Tim+ wrote: JimK wrote: /would/q ? Or wouldn't?? Jim K Indeed, should have been wouldn't. Tim Why? In order to mitigate costs you could pay under protest with the right to request a refund if the neighbour had no right to net over your property? At least you can then get on with things, and if he doesn't agree, just say he'll be saddled with the daily rate of the builder and labourers at £x00 per day? Why do all that before picking up the phone to the council and asking building control as to legality of it? Shouldn't take long. If it's illegal advise the neighbour and give him a reasonable time to sort it out. It it is legal, then negotiate with the neighbour to re-site the extractor outlet. You might even find that the neighbour's extension was built without Building Control's knowledge. I would be surprised if it was done without BC. I wouldn't. Happens all the time. Comes to light when people try to sell the property. If it was, it would be useful to look at the plans either way. -- bert |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to addextention to my property.
On Monday, 19 January 2015 16:25:16 UTC, AD wrote:
Hi All, Hope you can help me with my issue. Please read below: My query and a request for advice relates to my neighbours extension where it is concerning me that the ventilation extraction is coming out on my side of the property forbidding us to carry out any work to our property. At the moment I am in the process of building a small 2 meter extension to my kitchen (wall to wall as this property is a terraced house) which will be a little less than the length of my neighbours extension of 3.9 metres and our only being 2 metres, but the main issue is the chimney hood extraction has be placed on the wall joining our properties, therefore forbidding us to carry out any work at this stage. My neigbours mentioned it would be our responsibility to finance the move of the vent proceeding into our joint wall. I've had to stop the work currently being done at my property and costing me money with my builders. I tryed to call my council (Hillingdon) but they didnt really provide any useful information. Any help and guidance would be much appreciated. many thanks in advance. Who said you had to stop and what legal force does the statement have? If he is just worried for the work he has done and doesn't want to rerout his kitchen apparatus that is his problem and he can't force you to do or stop doing anything that you are legally entitled to do with, at, in or on your property. He can ask the council to stop you but you can ignore them and make them take you to court. Usually they will steer clear of neighbours squabbling or even see reason on your side of the affair. But you would be silly to let them affect your decision as if they were the final court of appeal. First of all have you got the right to do as you wish? Have you followed all protocols and etcetera? Or are you just taking advice from someone who doesn't want you to do something he isn't happy with? Be very careful with the opinions you get on here. A lot of them are even less sensible than mine. Watch out for morons like Harry and quotists like Martin Brown. They may do a lot of careful research on your behalf that is almost tangential to your OP in places but you are unlikely to profit from any of it. |
Just purchases property, Neighbours Extracsion forbidding to addextention to my property.
On Tuesday, 20 January 2015 17:50:12 UTC, Tim+ wrote:
Tim Read the ****ing OP you nit. |
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