Afternoon all,

Is this allowed?

I've got to get an additional double socket installed in a bedroom. I plan to run a spur off an existing socket which is on the inside of the external brick wall.

I wondered if, to save chasing, I could simply run the new cabling along the outside of the house and then up and back through the external wall to feed the new socket? Is this allowed?

Regards
Jon

On 16/12/2014 14:34, Jon Parker wrote:
Afternoon all,

Is this allowed?

I've got to get an additional double socket installed in a bedroom. I plan to run a spur off an existing socket which is on the inside of the external brick wall.

I wondered if, to save chasing, I could simply run the new cabling along the outside of the house and then up and back through the external wall to feed the new socket? Is this allowed?

Regards
Jon


I don't know if it's allowed, but it sounds like an ugly bodge. Could
you use self-adhesive mini-trunking inside the room if chasing is a problem?

On 16/12/14 18:46, LumpHammer wrote:
On 16/12/2014 14:34, Jon Parker wrote:
Afternoon all,

Is this allowed?

I've got to get an additional double socket installed in a bedroom. I
plan to run a spur off an existing socket which is on the inside of
the external brick wall.

I wondered if, to save chasing, I could simply run the new cabling
along the outside of the house and then up and back through the
external wall to feed the new socket? Is this allowed?

Regards
Jon


I don't know if it's allowed, but it sounds like an ugly bodge. Could
you use self-adhesive mini-trunking inside the room if chasing is a
problem?

There's nothing prohibiting it in general, subject to the usual "is the
cable run in a material and a way suitable for the location". eg "if
that part of the wall was likely to get clouted by the wheelbarrow on
regular occasions" and similar considerations.

But I agree, it's a bit of a bodge when both ends of the cable terminate
on the inside of the wall. But if I had to, I'd use a bit of 20mm
conduit with single entry besa (round) boxes on each end where the cable
goes through the wall - that would look fairly smart and offer a
reasonable amount of protection.

In message , Tim Watts
writes
On 16/12/14 18:46, LumpHammer wrote:
On 16/12/2014 14:34, Jon Parker wrote:
Afternoon all,

Is this allowed?

I've got to get an additional double socket installed in a bedroom. I
plan to run a spur off an existing socket which is on the inside of
the external brick wall.

I wondered if, to save chasing, I could simply run the new cabling
along the outside of the house and then up and back through the
external wall to feed the new socket? Is this allowed?

Regards
Jon


I don't know if it's allowed, but it sounds like an ugly bodge. Could
you use self-adhesive mini-trunking inside the room if chasing is a
problem?

There's nothing prohibiting it in general, subject to the usual "is the
cable run in a material and a way suitable for the location". eg "if
that part of the wall was likely to get clouted by the wheelbarrow on
regular occasions" and similar considerations.

But I agree, it's a bit of a bodge when both ends of the cable
terminate on the inside of the wall. But if I had to, I'd use a bit of
20mm conduit with single entry besa (round) boxes on each end where the
cable goes through the wall - that would look fairly smart and offer a
reasonable amount of protection.
Is standard T&E vulnerable to UV light?
--
bert

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:26:15 PM UTC, bert wrote:
Is standard T&E vulnerable to UV light?

Yes.

I agree with Mr Watts.

I knew someone who had their bath hot tap plumbed in a similar manner down the outside of the house from the airing cupboard ...

Owain

wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:26:15 PM UTC, bert wrote:
Is standard T&E vulnerable to UV light?

Yes.

I agree with Mr Watts.



I knew someone who had their bath hot tap plumbed in a similar manner down
the outside of the house from the airing cupboard ...

I suppose it could have been inslated with a pair of knickers.

--
Adam

On 16/12/2014 20:40, wrote:
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:26:15 PM UTC, bert wrote:
Is standard T&E vulnerable to UV light?

Yes.

I agree with Mr Watts.

I knew someone who had their bath hot tap plumbed in a similar manner down the outside of the house from the airing cupboard ...

Owain

To be fair, the energy loss may not be too bad, especially if it was
22mm. But I agree, it's a horrible thing to do.

In article ,
bert ] writes:
Is standard T&E vulnerable to UV light?

It's not specifically protected against it, but many of us have
had T&E exposed to the sun for multiple decades with no harm.

However, you can protect it with one or two coats of gloss paint
(use top coat only - don't use gloss undercoat on PVC).

--
Andrew Gabriel
[email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup]

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 9:00:53 PM UTC, newshound wrote:
I knew someone who had their bath hot tap plumbed in a similar manner
down the outside of the house from the airing cupboard ...
To be fair, the energy loss may not be too bad, especially if it was
22mm. But I agree, it's a horrible thing to do.

It was OK once the hot was running through, but it made topping up the bath once in it rather difficult.

Owain

Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
bert ] writes:
Is standard T&E vulnerable to UV light?

It's not specifically protected against it, but many of us have
had T&E exposed to the sun for multiple decades with no harm.

However, you can protect it with one or two coats of gloss paint
(use top coat only - don't use gloss undercoat on PVC).


I did an outside light botch in 1978 and the grey cable is now starting
to drop to bits on the south side of the house.

Bill

In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article ,
bert ] writes:
Is standard T&E vulnerable to UV light?

It's not specifically protected against it, but many of us have
had T&E exposed to the sun for multiple decades with no harm.

However, you can protect it with one or two coats of gloss paint
(use top coat only - don't use gloss undercoat on PVC).


I did an outside light botch in 1978 and the grey cable is now starting
to drop to bits on the south side of the house.

my TV downlead is from 1978. Still works perfectly - on the south wall,
too.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:46:49 PM UTC, LumpHammer wrote:
I don't know if it's allowed, but it sounds like an ugly bodge. Could
you use self-adhesive mini-trunking inside the room if chasing is a
problem?

Thanks chaps, I'll certainly look at running it through conduit. To be honest I hadn't considered that but it makes perfect sense of course.

Regards
Jon

"Jon Parker" wrote in message
...
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 6:46:49 PM UTC, LumpHammer wrote:
I don't know if it's allowed, but it sounds like an ugly bodge. Could
you use self-adhesive mini-trunking inside the room if chasing is a
problem?

Thanks chaps, I'll certainly look at running it through conduit. To be
honest I hadn't considered that but it makes perfect sense of course.

Parents new (to them) bungalow has just that kind of thing,

I'd spotted the outside socket at the front of the house had an unusually
long conduit run to it, going from one end of the lounge to the other with
those round junction jobbies you use with conduit, a single entry one at the
far end, and a double entry one near the socket, with about 8 inches of
conduit from the double entry junction jobbie to the socket.... strange me
thinks,

Turns out the last owners had just had the lounge re-plastered, then
decorated with stupidly expensive wallpaper and all that, then one of them
put a nail through the cable running between the sockets (feck knows what
the nail was for, the cable ran about a foot above the floor level,

Anyway, it was easier and much cheaper to have the sockets re-wired
externally, and an external socket added to make it look like that was the
real reason for the conduit run.

I guess there was some reason they couldn't have used the external socket
housing as the end of the conduit run? i.e. with the cable going back into
the house through the back of the socket housing... with the relevant
glands/conduit/big gobs of silicone.