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In deep dudgeon today after my cock up with the leaking washing maching fill
hose because I'm too stupid to realise there should have been a rubber
washer at each end I'm determined to not let this new house go to **** like
I the old one after I neglected things.

There's a small weep from the spindle of the lockshield valve on one of the
rads. The plastic cap is such a tight fit though it's containing things and
I've left it well alone for now. Google thinks I can lock the valve down,
undo the spindle nut, wind a couple of turns of PTFE tape round the spindle,
pack this in with a small screwdriver, apply a smear of silicone grease and
refit the nut without having to drain the whole system down. That would be a
major pain because the header tank in the loft is really hard to get to
involving crawling through a maze of roof trusses and a chipboard wall with
the tank at one end of the loft and the hatch at the other end 50 feet away.

There's also really good anti corrosion stuff in the system which is very
slippery to the touch when I get some on my fingers when I bleed the rads
and I don't want to waste that and have to replace it all.

Is Google correct about the spindle valve? I really don't want to have to
replace the whole lockshield valve.

What might my "slippery to the touch" anti corrosion stuff be?
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In deep dudgeon today after my cock up with the leaking washing maching
fill hose because I'm too stupid to realise there should have been a
rubber washer at each end I'm determined to not let this new house go to
**** like I the old one after I neglected things.

There's a small weep from the spindle of the lockshield valve on one of
the rads. The plastic cap is such a tight fit though it's containing
things and I've left it well alone for now. Google thinks I can lock the
valve down, undo the spindle nut, wind a couple of turns of PTFE tape
round the spindle, pack this in with a small screwdriver, apply a smear of
silicone grease and refit the nut without having to drain the whole system
down. That would be a major pain because the header tank in the loft is
really hard to get to involving crawling through a maze of roof trusses
and a chipboard wall with the tank at one end of the loft and the hatch at
the other end 50 feet away.

There's also really good anti corrosion stuff in the system which is very
slippery to the touch when I get some on my fingers when I bleed the rads
and I don't want to waste that and have to replace it all.

Is Google correct about the spindle valve? I really don't want to have to
replace the whole lockshield valve.

What might my "slippery to the touch" anti corrosion stuff be?
--
Dave Baker



Most TRVs have a tiny O ring seal on the shaft. (It has to be low friction
in order to work propely)
In days of yore a few had bellows.
Finding a replacement O ring is the trick and usually the valve has to be
dismantled and the spindle pulled out.
Even if you replace it, quite often the shaft is scored and still leaks.
Safest is to replace it. They are pretty cheap.

You can turn of the cold water stop tap and drain the tank and system down,
into containers/buckets if neccessary to save the chemical. The trick will
be getting it back in the system (nomally done by tipping it into the header
tank).


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Most TRVs ..


It's not a TRV. It's a lockshield valve like wot I said.

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Most TRVs ..


It's not a TRV. It's a lockshield valve like wot I said.


Indeed. And yes, if it's the sort with a packable gland round the shaft,
undoing the nut and sliding it up the shaft, adding some more packing
and then replacing the nut will probably do the trick.

In the past, I've used hemp - or even string - but not PTFE tape. PTFE
tape *may* work, but something which swells a bit when moisture is
present would be better.
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On 01/12/2014 17:03, Dave Baker wrote:

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Most TRVs ..


It's not a TRV. It's a lockshield valve like wot I said.


Indeed. And yes, if it's the sort with a packable gland round the shaft,
undoing the nut and sliding it up the shaft, adding some more packing
and then replacing the nut will probably do the trick.

In the past, I've used hemp - or even string - but not PTFE tape. PTFE
tape *may* work, but something which swells a bit when moisture is
present would be better.


Turn off the valve at the other end as well to isolate the radiator.
Release any residual pressure with the bleed valve.
You may get away with just tightnening the nut - but if it has already
bottomed out then follow the advice about making a string of PTFE tape.
Think about which way you wrap it so that refitting the nut doesn't unwrap
it.


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Roger Mills wrote in news:ce3ma9Ff6e4U1
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On 01/12/2014 17:03, Dave Baker wrote:

"harryagain" wrote in message
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Most TRVs ..

It's not a TRV. It's a lockshield valve like wot I said.


Indeed. And yes, if it's the sort with a packable gland round the shaft,
undoing the nut and sliding it up the shaft, adding some more packing
and then replacing the nut will probably do the trick.

In the past, I've used hemp - or even string - but not PTFE tape. PTFE
tape *may* work, but something which swells a bit when moisture is
present would be better.


Turn off the valve at the other end as well to isolate the radiator.
Release any residual pressure with the bleed valve.
You may get away with just tightnening the nut - but if it has already
bottomed out then follow the advice about making a string of PTFE tape.
Think about which way you wrap it so that refitting the nut doesn't unwrap
it.


MUCH better to replace the offending lock shield valve!

This is where my pipe freezer comes into it's own. Screw the TRV down, close
the lock shield valve, release radiator pressure via bleed valve, freeze
pipe leading to lock shield valve. Replace lock shield valve with a new good
one (not all are!). If you are lucky no need to pull olive off pipe if
fitting thread is same as old one.

(In all honesty you probably would get away closing ALL your rads, releasing
system pressure at a suitable point, then undoing the offending lock shield
with a wet & dry vac standing by to cope with anything that escapes)

Andrew

pst - want to hire a pipe freezer

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pst - want to hire a pipe freezer


Where Dave is he just needs to turn the heat off and open the door for a
while...

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On 01/12/2014 16:24, Dave Baker wrote:

Is Google correct about the spindle valve? I really don't want to have
to replace the whole lockshield valve.


Yup it will normally work. PTFE string is better than tape in this case
but tape works especially if you twist it into a string before you wind
it round. Pack in a good ten turns or so if you can.

What might my "slippery to the touch" anti corrosion stuff be?


Fungal slime?

(any of the normal inhibitors I have used don't seem to change the feel
of the water - although I suppose some of the antifreeze ones may)

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