Hi all,

We're in the Thames Water region. About four years ago we had a water meter installed. It's under a plastic cover in the pavement outside the house. It has built into it a stopcock which has a hexagonal shaft that takes a "key" to turn it on and off. Originally there was a plastic key supplied, which was attached to a flexible plastic cord within the small underground chamber itself. However, within a few weeks someone had nicked that, which suggests to me that they are in short supply.

To further support this theory, I can't seem to find anything suitable online. If they were available anywhere, I'd expect this to be the place:
http://www.tooled-up.com/subcat/plumbers-keys/183/
However, nothing there. I could use a socket from a socket set, but I don't have any suitably long T piece to attach it to.

Does anyone know where to buy what I'm talking about?

On 26/10/14 00:19, Martin Pentreath wrote:
Hi all,

We're in the Thames Water region. About four years ago we had a water meter installed. It's under a plastic cover in the pavement outside the house. It has built into it a stopcock which has a hexagonal shaft that takes a "key" to turn it on and off. Originally there was a plastic key supplied, which was attached to a flexible plastic cord within the small underground chamber itself. However, within a few weeks someone had nicked that, which suggests to me that they are in short supply.

To further support this theory, I can't seem to find anything suitable online. If they were available anywhere, I'd expect this to be the place:
http://www.tooled-up.com/subcat/plumbers-keys/183/
However, nothing there. I could use a socket from a socket set, but I don't have any suitably long T piece to attach it to.

Does anyone know where to buy what I'm talking about?


Yes - I've seen those. The plastic key that usually lives in the hole is
quite flimsy.

Looks like this, doesn't it:

http://slayingevil.files.wordpress.c...2/imag0037.jpg

and one with the "key"

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...0_49036079.jpg

Seems it can take a male (socket) or larger female hex key.

But you are right - I can see nothing for sale that matches. I think
buying some cheap socket extention might be the best bet.

replying to Tim Watts , Dan wrote:
tw_usenet wrote:

Yes - I've seen those. The plastic key that usually lives in the hole is
quite flimsy.
Looks like this, doesn't it:
http://slayingevil.files.wordpress.c...2/imag0037.jpg
and one with the "key"
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...0_49036079.jpg
Seems it can take a male (socket) or larger female hex key.
But you are right - I can see nothing for sale that matches. I think
buying some cheap socket extention might be the best bet.



We lost our key, but replaced it with a 10mm hex key, which works fine.
Cheers,
Dan

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replying to Tim Watts, Marrer wrote:
https://www.sealantsandtoolsdirect.c...arge/28757.jpg
Sump plug removal tool warm a piece off 22mm copper tubling and tap the
correct size sum plug into it tape or glue into copper tube cross drill pipe
and use a screwdriver to undo or shut the water supply off/on

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On 25/06/18 19:44, Marrer wrote:
replying to Tim Watts, Marrer wrote:
https://www.sealantsandtoolsdirect.c...arge/28757.jpg

Sump plug removal tool warm a piece off 22mm copper tubling and tap the
correct size sum plug into it tape or glue into copper tube cross drill
pipe
and use a screwdriver to undo or shut the water supply off/on


The problem has become moot in the last 4 years...

And yes, I am the OP.

On 26/06/2018 04:46, Tim Watts wrote:
On 25/06/18 19:44, Marrer wrote:
replying to Tim Watts, Marrer wrote:

Sump plug removal tool warm a piece off 22mm copper tubling and tap the
correct size sum plug into it tape or glue into copper tube cross
drill pipe
and use a screwdriver to undo or shut the water supply off/on


The problem has become moot in the last 4 years...

And yes, I am the OP.

These are likely spambot postings attempting to raise the profile of the
linked company - hence the nonsense algorithm generated text.

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On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 16:19:37 -0700, Martin Pentreath wrote:

Hi all,

We're in the Thames Water region. About four years ago we had a water
meter installed. It's under a plastic cover in the pavement outside the
house. It has built into it a stopcock which has a hexagonal shaft that
takes a "key" to turn it on and off. Originally there was a plastic key
supplied, which was attached to a flexible plastic cord within the small
underground chamber itself. However, within a few weeks someone had
nicked that, which suggests to me that they are in short supply.

To further support this theory, I can't seem to find anything suitable
online. If they were available anywhere, I'd expect this to be the
place:
http://www.tooled-up.com/subcat/plumbers-keys/183/
However, nothing there. I could use a socket from a socket set, but I
don't have any suitably long T piece to attach it to.

Does anyone know where to buy what I'm talking about?

I suspect this will fit - I know it says 'square' but it also has lugs as
you can see.

http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/level5/mo...cpc/608780.xml



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What do Thames say, having it missing if there is a major leak in the
pavement would be rather embarrassing. Maybe one of the neighbours meters
still has one.

Brian

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Hi all,

We're in the Thames Water region. About four years ago we had a water meter
installed. It's under a plastic cover in the pavement outside the house. It
has built into it a stopcock which has a hexagonal shaft that takes a "key"
to turn it on and off. Originally there was a plastic key supplied, which
was attached to a flexible plastic cord within the small underground chamber
itself. However, within a few weeks someone had nicked that, which suggests
to me that they are in short supply.

To further support this theory, I can't seem to find anything suitable
online. If they were available anywhere, I'd expect this to be the place:
http://www.tooled-up.com/subcat/plumbers-keys/183/
However, nothing there. I could use a socket from a socket set, but I don't
have any suitably long T piece to attach it to.

Does anyone know where to buy what I'm talking about?

Martin Pentreath wrote:
Hi all,

We're in the Thames Water region. About four years ago we had a water meter installed. It's under a plastic cover in the pavement outside the house. It has built into it a stopcock which has a hexagonal shaft that takes a "key" to turn it on and off. Originally there was a plastic key supplied, which was attached to a flexible plastic cord within the small underground chamber itself. However, within a few weeks someone had nicked that, which suggests to me that they are in short supply.

To further support this theory, I can't seem to find anything suitable online. If they were available anywhere, I'd expect this to be the place:
http://www.tooled-up.com/subcat/plumbers-keys/183/
However, nothing there. I could use a socket from a socket set, but I don't have any suitably long T piece to attach it to.

Does anyone know where to buy what I'm talking about?

My stop cock (pre metering- our voluntary meter is indoors) is about
3/4m down. I made an extension 1/2" drive out of a short piece of 1/2"
square steel driven into the end of a piece of steel conduit and a
couple of holes a the other end for a screw driver as a tommy bar.
Don't forget to tape the socket onto the bar or make use of the little
hole in the side of some sockets otherwise you will need the companion
device of a magnet on a stick to recover the dropped socket
DAMHIKT

If it's one like this
http://i854.photobucket.com/albums/a...watermeter.jpg from Thames
I can confirm a socket on a long bar works well. I was lucky enough to
have an old telescopic wheelbrace where the spare socket fitted on the
handle which did nicely. And our tap turns so easily that I suspect a
bit of timber jammed into the socket would do just as well - and would
certainly be a lot cheaper than a bar long enough to reach some meters.

IIRC there used to be yellow plastic stopcock keys to fit these meters
in local (London) BMs. But I can't recall seeing any lately.

Oh, and it's worth knowing where the tap is if the meter is like MiL's
which is under a foot or more of dirty water most of the winter

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replying to Martin Pentreath, tryigntoworkouttheplumbing wrote:
Hi - your post from 2014 re hex key and Thames Water stop valves - I have the
same. My question is - to turn it off which way do you turn and how many
turns? I've watched a few youtube videos of other stop valves - some are a
quarter turn some are 4 or 5 turns. No videos showed how many turns or which
way for this type of shut off valve. Thanks

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replying to tryigntoworkouttheplumbing, Sean wrote:
an old telescopic wheelbrace where the spare socket fitted on the handle
which did nicely. And our tap turns so easily that I suspect a bit of timber
jammed into the socket would do just as well - and would certainly be a lot
cheaper than a bar long enough to reach some meters.
IIRC there used to be yellow plastic stopcock keys to fit these meters in
local (London) BMs. But I can't recall seeing any lately.
Oh, and it's worth knowing where the tap is if the meter is like MiL's which
is under a foot or more of dirty water most of the winter


Hi, did you work out hor many turns and what direction are required please?

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