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phigham November 22nd 03 11:44 AM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
Hi

When we moved into our house we found that (for some reason best known
to themselves) the vendor had removed the (ceramic ?) part of the
bathroom taps that say "Hot" and "Cold". The taps are "edwardian" in
style. I'd like to get hold of replacements. Can anyone guide me as to
what these parts are called (indexes springs to mind..) and where I
might get hold of some ?

Thanks

Paul

Mike Tomlinson November 22nd 03 03:23 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
In article , phigham
writes

The taps are "edwardian" in
style. I'd like to get hold of replacements. Can anyone guide me as to
what these parts are called (indexes springs to mind..) and where I
might get hold of some ?


Nick 'em from the display models on show at your local DIY shed?

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Q. What's the most annoying thing on Usenet?


Stuart November 22nd 03 08:42 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On 22 Nov 2003 03:44:07 -0800, (phigham) wrote:

Hi

When we moved into our house we found that (for some reason best known
to themselves) the vendor had removed the (ceramic ?) part of the
bathroom taps that say "Hot" and "Cold". The taps are "edwardian" in
style. I'd like to get hold of replacements. Can anyone guide me as to
what these parts are called (indexes springs to mind..) and where I
might get hold of some ?

Thanks

Paul


Or " Indices" even :-)
Stuart

harrogate November 22nd 03 09:17 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 

"Stuart" wrote in message
...
On 22 Nov 2003 03:44:07 -0800, (phigham) wrote:

Hi

When we moved into our house we found that (for some reason best known
to themselves) the vendor had removed the (ceramic ?) part of the
bathroom taps that say "Hot" and "Cold". The taps are "edwardian" in
style. I'd like to get hold of replacements. Can anyone guide me as to
what these parts are called (indexes springs to mind..) and where I
might get hold of some ?

Thanks

Paul


Or " Indices" even :-)
Stuart


In the UK hot should always be on the left.


--
Woody





geoff November 22nd 03 10:36 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
In message ,
harrogate writes

"Stuart" wrote in message
.. .
On 22 Nov 2003 03:44:07 -0800, (phigham) wrote:


In the UK hot should always be on the left.


Not necessarily

I put the cold tap on the left in the bathroom sink, I'm right handed
and if I'm e.g. holding my toothbrush, I can control the water with my
left hand (which is actually completely untrue, but the best reason I
can come up with offhand)
--
geoff

Ed Sirett November 23rd 03 12:22 AM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:25 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message ,
harrogate writes

"Stuart" wrote in message
. ..
On 22 Nov 2003 03:44:07 -0800, (phigham) wrote:


In the UK hot should always be on the left.


That's a 'should' not an 'is'.



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BillR November 23rd 03 04:22 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article , phigham
writes

The taps are "edwardian" in
style. I'd like to get hold of replacements. Can anyone guide me as
to what these parts are called (indexes springs to mind..) and where
I might get hold of some ?


Nick 'em from the display models on show at your local DIY shed?


I like that idea :-)



phigham November 24th 03 11:08 AM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
In the UK hot should always be on the left.


That's a 'should' not an 'is'.


Yes, the bathroom hot taps are on the right (and on the left in the
kitchen). When the house was refurbed by the previous owner, they
moved in mysterious ways...like putting the mains cold feed to the the
bathroom sink and nicking the tap indeces (that's the word I was
searching for). Now, where can I get these ?

Paul

Zymurgy November 24th 03 04:22 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
(phigham) wrote
"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
In the UK hot should always be on the left.


That's a 'should' not an 'is'.


Yes, the bathroom hot taps are on the right (and on the left in the kitchen).


Hmm,

The one i've just plumbed is on the left, but more by good luck than
good judgement ;-)

Where did this convention originate ?

P.

Andrew November 24th 03 04:57 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
"Ed Sirett" wrote in message on.co.uk...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:25 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message ,
harrogate writes

"Stuart" wrote in message
. ..
On 22 Nov 2003 03:44:07 -0800, (phigham) wrote:

In the UK hot should always be on the left.


That's a 'should' not an 'is'.


Why is it even 'should'? I would have said "is often on the left".

Andrew November 24th 03 04:58 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
(phigham) wrote in message . com...

Yes, the bathroom hot taps are on the right (and on the left in the
kitchen). When the house was refurbed by the previous owner, they
moved in mysterious ways...like putting the mains cold feed to the the
bathroom sink


What's mysterious about that?

Andy Hall November 24th 03 08:32 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On 24 Nov 2003 08:22:50 -0800, (Zymurgy)
wrote:

(phigham) wrote
"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
In the UK hot should always be on the left.

That's a 'should' not an 'is'.


Yes, the bathroom hot taps are on the right (and on the left in the kitchen).


Hmm,

The one i've just plumbed is on the left, but more by good luck than
good judgement ;-)

Where did this convention originate ?

P.


Probably with the Romans who had plumbing long before Sir Twyford
Adamant and Lord Vitreous of China were on the scene.

The theory was, like driving on the left, that the right hand would
always be available for the sword.

In the case of bathroom plumbing, my theory is that since the majority
of the population are right handed, they will grab first for the right
hand tap if they are not paying attention. With the hot on the left,
they will not scald themselves.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything :-)






..andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

geoff November 24th 03 09:42 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
In message , Andy Hall
writes

In the case of bathroom plumbing, my theory is that since the majority
of the population are right handed, they will grab first for the right
hand tap if they are not paying attention. With the hot on the left,
they will not scald themselves.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything :-)

Worse than my reply.

But my argument was better
if you're holding something in your right hand, it leaves the left free
to turn on the cold tap
--
geoff

Andy Hall November 24th 03 10:44 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:42:45 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message , Andy Hall
writes

In the case of bathroom plumbing, my theory is that since the majority
of the population are right handed, they will grab first for the right
hand tap if they are not paying attention. With the hot on the left,
they will not scald themselves.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything :-)

Worse than my reply.

But my argument was better
if you're holding something in your right hand, it leaves the left free
to turn on the cold tap


Hmmmm.... Maybe that's what the Romans were doing, and it was that
that led to their demise.......

..andy

To email, substitute .nospam with .gl

Ed Sirett November 24th 03 11:28 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 20:32:58 +0000, Andy Hall wrote:

On 24 Nov 2003 08:22:50 -0800, (Zymurgy)
wrote:

(phigham) wrote
"Ed Sirett" wrote in message
In the UK hot should always be on the left.

That's a 'should' not an 'is'.

Yes, the bathroom hot taps are on the right (and on the left in the kitchen).


Hmm,

The one i've just plumbed is on the left, but more by good luck than
good judgement ;-)

Where did this convention originate ?

P.


Probably with the Romans who had plumbing long before Sir Twyford
Adamant and Lord Vitreous of China were on the scene.

The theory was, like driving on the left, that the right hand would
always be available for the sword.

In the case of bathroom plumbing, my theory is that since the majority
of the population are right handed, they will grab first for the right
hand tap if they are not paying attention. With the hot on the left,
they will not scald themselves.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything :-)

I think there may be more truth in that. What I heard was that when there
were only cold taps they were on the right for the reason you stated so
the hot went on the left when H&C became the standard.

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Ed Sirett November 24th 03 11:32 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 08:57:14 +0000, Andrew wrote:

"Ed Sirett" wrote in message on.co.uk...
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 22:36:25 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message ,
harrogate writes

"Stuart" wrote in message
. ..
On 22 Nov 2003 03:44:07 -0800, (phigham) wrote:

In the UK hot should always be on the left.


That's a 'should' not an 'is'.


Why is it even 'should'? I would have said "is often on the left".

I can't think where I found out that it was a 'should' rather than an
'is', but I beleive it to be so, but welcome to be corrected.

Note that a thermostatic bath/shower mixer unit will _require_ the
supply pipes are arranged according to the norm.

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geoff November 25th 03 12:05 AM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
In message , Andy Hall
writes
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 21:42:45 +0000, geoff wrote:

In message , Andy Hall
writes

In the case of bathroom plumbing, my theory is that since the majority
of the population are right handed, they will grab first for the right
hand tap if they are not paying attention. With the hot on the left,
they will not scald themselves.

If you believe that, you'll believe anything :-)

Worse than my reply.

But my argument was better
if you're holding something in your right hand, it leaves the left free
to turn on the cold tap


Hmmmm.... Maybe that's what the Romans were doing, and it was that
that led to their demise.......

I really can't think what you're talking about
--
geoff

The Natural Philosopher November 25th 03 08:12 AM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
geoff wrote:

In message ,
harrogate writes


"Stuart" wrote in message
...

On 22 Nov 2003 03:44:07 -0800, (phigham) wrote:



In the UK hot should always be on the left.


Not necessarily

I put the cold tap on the left in the bathroom sink, I'm right handed
and if I'm e.g. holding my toothbrush, I can control the water with my
left hand (which is actually completely untrue, but the best reason I
can come up with offhand)


I am very irritated by this 'standard practice' particularly in the
kitchen, where I pick up the kettle in my right hand and have to cross
my left over it to fill it...same for large heavy sauxcepans.

Oh well.


Christian McArdle November 26th 03 03:14 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
they moved in mysterious ways...like putting the mains cold
feed to the the bathroom sink


You don't like having drinking water from the tap when brushing your teeth
then? You prefer water from a grotty tank with dead rats floating within?

All my taps are direct from the mains, unstored and drinkable, even the hot
taps.

Christian.




Christian McArdle November 26th 03 03:15 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
I am very irritated by this 'standard practice' particularly
in the kitchen, where I pick up the kettle in my right hand
and have to cross my left over it to fill it


You could always pick up the kettle with your left hand. That way your right
hand to free to manipulate the taps and the lid, which requires greater
dexterity.

Christian.



geoff November 26th 03 10:17 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
In message , Christian
McArdle writes
they moved in mysterious ways...like putting the mains cold
feed to the the bathroom sink


You don't like having drinking water from the tap when brushing your teeth
then? You prefer water from a grotty tank with dead rats floating within?

All my taps are direct from the mains, unstored and drinkable, even the hot
taps.

Christian.


I thought that the regs said that any tap from which you might drink had
to be fed directly from the mains
--
geoff

geoff November 26th 03 10:20 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
In message , Christian
McArdle writes
I am very irritated by this 'standard practice' particularly
in the kitchen, where I pick up the kettle in my right hand
and have to cross my left over it to fill it


You could always pick up the kettle with your left hand.


Why ? I am right handed, I naturally pick up a kettle / toothbrush /
whatever with my right hand

That way your right
hand to free to manipulate the taps and the lid, which requires greater
dexterity.

Hardly precision engineering - don't talk a load of wank

--
geoff

phigham December 8th 03 10:54 AM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
"Christian McArdle" wrote in message .net...
they moved in mysterious ways...like putting the mains cold
feed to the the bathroom sink


You don't like having drinking water from the tap when brushing your teeth
then? You prefer water from a grotty tank with dead rats floating within?

All my taps are direct from the mains, unstored and drinkable, even the hot
taps.

Christian.



Good point about the rats...

Perhaps I should have added

"....whilst feeding the kitchen cold tap from the tank..."

Dave Liquorice December 8th 03 10:21 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On 8 Dec 2003 02:54:17 -0800, phigham wrote:

You prefer water from a grotty tank with dead rats floating within?


I wish I'd taken some pics of the main tanks here before I cleaned
them out and fitted proper covers. Moderately random collection of
drowned wood lice, beetles, centipedes and one mouse combined with a
good layer of brick dust/mortar etc.

We have never had any problems that could even be remotely linked to
"poor water".

All my taps are direct from the mains, unstored and drinkable, even
the hot taps.


And when there is a major mains failure and your water is off for
maybe 24hrs? How do you make a cup of tea or, prehaps more important,
flush the loo. Using bottle water for that seems a tad excessive,
always assuming the local supermarket had any left, 'cause every one
else will have been rushing out to buy whatever water they can...

Ours was scheduled to be off for 6hrs last month as they messed about
with the main. In the end it was nearer 24hrs we used about half of
our stored supply. We didn't use the w/mc and the kids shared their
bath water but other than that we didn't control our water useage.

I would not be happy living in a place without stored water.

Good point about the rats...


I wouldn't worry that much about it. B-)

--
Cheers
Dave. pam is missing e-mail




K December 17th 03 01:24 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 23:32:21 +0000, "Ed Sirett"
wrote:


I can't think where I found out that it was a 'should' rather than an
'is', but I beleive it to be so, but welcome to be corrected.


I was told it was so that blind people would know which was which. I
don't know how they are supposed to know if it has been plumbed
incorrectly though....

Abdullah Eyles December 23rd 03 01:33 PM

No Indicator of Which is Cold and Hot Taps
 
not completely on-thread (like most of my posts), but maybe a laugh
for you all ;)

I went to stay in a four-star (it was when it was built) hotel in the
Thrace region of Turkey.

As I was grubby after a hard days work, I was pleased to see that hot
water was available for a bath - in fact too hot to touch...

So I opened the cold tap, lo and behold, that was running scaldingly
hot as well...

Had to leave the full bath about an hour to cool down before I could
get in!!!


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