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We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our price
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On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote:
We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our price range is £80 to £110. Can anyone make a recommendation? Thank you Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Get a charcoal starter - speeds things up no end; http://direct.asda.com/george/george...efault,pd.html -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Dave, we had charcoal BBQs for years but decided about 8 years ago to change
to gas, mainly for the convenience. I agree that the food takes better with charcoal but we just use it now to cook sausages, burgers and the occasional steak; these cook quite well on gas. Still have a small charcoal BBQ but never use it. Thanks all the same. "The Medway Handyman" wrote in message news On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our price range is £80 to £110. Can anyone make a recommendation? Thank you Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Get a charcoal starter - speeds things up no end; http://direct.asda.com/george/george...efault,pd.html -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote:
We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our price range is £80 to £110. Can anyone make a recommendation? Thank you Checkout Aldi next thursday, they are selling a 2 burner for £49.99. |
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On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman
grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco -- David |
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Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco but cooking at a Barbeque is "a real man's job". -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman
grunted: Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Get a charcoal starter - speeds things up no end; http://direct.asda.com/george/george...el-chimney-sta rter/001685691,default,pd.html Just had a look at that - keep meaning to get one. But - the one reviewer of the above Asda item says that his chimney melted -??!? -- David |
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On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote:
On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell |
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On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. There are no saucepans to wash as you just blast-furnace the grid before cooking next time |
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On Mon, 19 May 2014 08:22:15 +0100, Nightjar wrote:
I've never really understood the point of barbecues. +1 Strikes me as a sheple thing designed to annoy your neighbours with plumes of smoke and stench of burning dead animal. -- Cheers Dave. |
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On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote:
On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. There are no saucepans to wash as you just blast-furnace the grid before cooking next time Saucepans just go into the dishwasher. Colin Bignell |
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"Lobster" wrote in message . 236... On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Get a charcoal starter - speeds things up no end; http://direct.asda.com/george/george...el-chimney-sta rter/001685691,default,pd.html Just had a look at that - keep meaning to get one. But - the one reviewer of the above Asda item says that his chimney melted -??!? It says it's made of steel, so what was the bloke using to start his bbq, thermite? |
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On 19/05/2014 15:11, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote: On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 19/05/2014 08:18, Lobster wrote:
On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Get a charcoal starter - speeds things up no end; http://direct.asda.com/george/george...el-chimney-sta rter/001685691,default,pd.html Just had a look at that - keep meaning to get one. But - the one reviewer of the above Asda item says that his chimney melted -??!? I've used mine twice so far, paint has melted off, but that's all. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 19/05/2014 15:11, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote: On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. Colin Bignell |
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On 19/05/14 18:54, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 19/05/2014 15:11, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote: On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. Microwave then put it over the coals for long enough to char the outside. The second stage is optional. :-) -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On 19/05/14 18:54, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. Colin Bignell You should come to mine... The scret is to have a hot end and a cooler end. Red meats, including burgers should be flashed on the hot end, both sides, then moved to the cooler side and left to cook through. I get hint of chargrill on the outside and properly cooked (just) all the way through. |
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On 19/05/2014 18:54, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 19/05/2014 15:11, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote: On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. You need a better circle of friends :-) SWMBO spent 3 years at catering college and has trained me well. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Tue, 20 May 2014 08:24:39 +0100, Tim Watts wrote:
You should come to mine... The scret is to have a hot end and a cooler end. Red meats, including burgers should be flashed on the hot end, both sides, then moved to the cooler side and left to cook through. I get hint of chargrill on the outside and properly cooked (just) all the way through. That's a very kind invitation, Tim. What time would you like the whole newsgroup round? We'll bring some beers. |
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On 19/05/2014 08:14, charles wrote:
but cooking at a Barbeque is "a real man's job". http://funny2.com/barbecue.htm |
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On 20/05/14 08:29, Adrian wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 08:24:39 +0100, Tim Watts wrote: You should come to mine... The scret is to have a hot end and a cooler end. Red meats, including burgers should be flashed on the hot end, both sides, then moved to the cooler side and left to cook through. I get hint of chargrill on the outside and properly cooked (just) all the way through. That's a very kind invitation, Tim. What time would you like the whole newsgroup round? We'll bring some beers. I'd better order a pallet of bricks then everyone can help me make a BBQ big enough! ;- |
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On 20 May 2014, Tim Watts grunted:
On 19/05/14 18:54, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. You should come to mine... The scret is to have a hot end and a cooler end. Red meats, including burgers should be flashed on the hot end, both sides, then moved to the cooler side and left to cook through. I'll enjoy watching and learning when we all come round; but till then - how do you do that, assuming a constant grill height: do you just pile up or spread out the burning charcoal? -- David |
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On 20/05/2014 19:55, Lobster wrote:
On 20 May 2014, Tim Watts grunted: On 19/05/14 18:54, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. You should come to mine... The scret is to have a hot end and a cooler end. Red meats, including burgers should be flashed on the hot end, both sides, then moved to the cooler side and left to cook through. I'll enjoy watching and learning when we all come round; but till then - how do you do that, assuming a constant grill height: do you just pile up or spread out the burning charcoal? Ours has two, three position grills. It's the one in the main picture here; http://wickes.live.venda.com/icat/gd... ntent=Default You can also tilt the grill so one end is higher than the other. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 20/05/14 19:55, Lobster wrote:
On 20 May 2014, Tim Watts grunted: On 19/05/14 18:54, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. You should come to mine... The scret is to have a hot end and a cooler end. Red meats, including burgers should be flashed on the hot end, both sides, then moved to the cooler side and left to cook through. I'll enjoy watching and learning when we all come round; but till then - how do you do that, assuming a constant grill height: do you just pile up or spread out the burning charcoal? Pile more towards one side |
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On 20/05/14 21:43, Tim Watts wrote:
On 20/05/14 19:55, Lobster wrote: On 20 May 2014, Tim Watts grunted: On 19/05/14 18:54, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 18:18, The Medway Handyman wrote: Not if you know how to cook on a barbeque.... If that is the case (and I am not convinced) I have yet to go to a barbecue where the person cooking knows how to cook on a barbecue. You should come to mine... The scret is to have a hot end and a cooler end. Red meats, including burgers should be flashed on the hot end, both sides, then moved to the cooler side and left to cook through. I'll enjoy watching and learning when we all come round; but till then - how do you do that, assuming a constant grill height: do you just pile up or spread out the burning charcoal? Pile more towards one side Once its all white, use water or beer to cool a section to stop flames and burning. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 20/05/14 22:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Once its all white, use water or beer to cool a section to stop flames and burning. It's a good use of any poor quality lager that finds its way into the cooler |
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On 19/05/2014 15:11, Nightjar wrote:
On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote: On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. I find if you get the technique right you can get foot that is nicely cooked through, but still nice an juicy and just slightly crisp on the outside. Marinates and dips etc seem to take on extra flavour when used on stuff cooked over direct heat like that. There is also the social aspect of being outside with friends or family on a hot night rather than cooped up in the kitchen... Not forgetting the BBQ banana ;-) slap a banana in its skin on the cooling BBQ - turn occationally, but leave it until its black and starting to weep. Transfer to a bowl, and slit the skin on the inside of the curve with a sharp knife (it will be weak and thin now). Inside will be hot mush caramelised banana. Sprinkle ona half teaspoon of dark sugar (muscavado or similar), then douse in dark rum. Enjoy while piping hot! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 21/05/2014 11:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/05/2014 15:11, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote: On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. I find if you get the technique right you can get foot that is nicely cooked through, but still nice an juicy and just slightly crisp on the outside. Marinates and dips etc seem to take on extra flavour when used on stuff cooked over direct heat like that. There is also the social aspect of being outside with friends or family on a hot night rather than cooped up in the kitchen... Not forgetting the BBQ banana ;-) slap a banana in its skin on the cooling BBQ - turn occationally, but leave it until its black and starting to weep. Transfer to a bowl, and slit the skin on the inside of the curve with a sharp knife (it will be weak and thin now). Inside will be hot mush caramelised banana. Sprinkle ona half teaspoon of dark sugar (muscavado or similar), then douse in dark rum. Enjoy while piping hot! Throw away banana, drink sauce :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 21/05/2014 11:39, John Rumm wrote:
On 19/05/2014 15:11, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:29, Tim Watts wrote: On 19/05/14 08:22, Nightjar wrote: On 19/05/2014 08:05, Lobster wrote: On 18 May 2014, The Medway Handyman grunted: On 18/05/2014 16:31, Stewart wrote: We are looking to replace our 2 burner gas BBQ sometime soon. Our Go for charcoal not gas. Tastes much better. Yeah. Never really understood the point of gas barbecues... you may as well just cook the food in the kitchen and bring it outside to eat al fresco I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. I find if you get the technique right you can get foot that is nicely cooked through, but still nice an juicy and just slightly crisp on the outside. Marinates and dips etc seem to take on extra flavour when used on stuff cooked over direct heat like that. As I mentioned elsewhere, the barbecues I have attended don't seem to include competent cooks. There is also the social aspect of being outside with friends or family on a hot night rather than cooped up in the kitchen... On a hot night, I would probably prefer to serve cold food. In any case, with a bit of planning, it isn't necessary to be cooped up in the kitchen when entertaining. It is the same situation as a dinner party, but outdoors. Of course, if you want to do a lot of outdoor entertaining, there is always the continental option - a covered outdoor kitchen, or one that opens directly onto the garden through french doors. Not forgetting the BBQ banana ;-) slap a banana in its skin on the cooling BBQ - turn occationally, but leave it until its black and starting to weep. Transfer to a bowl, and slit the skin on the inside of the curve with a sharp knife (it will be weak and thin now). Inside will be hot mush caramelised banana. Sprinkle ona half teaspoon of dark sugar (muscavado or similar), then douse in dark rum. Enjoy while piping hot! Sounds horrible, but I don't like bananas to begin with. Colin Bignell |
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, John Rumm wrote: I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. I find if you get the technique right you can get ** foot ** From the Jeffrey Dhamer cookbook I guess?? that is nicely cooked through, but still nice an juicy and just slightly crisp on the outside. Marinates and dips etc seem to take on extra flavour when used on stuff cooked over direct heat like that. John -- John Mulrooney NOTE Email address IS correct but might not be checked for a while. You can't beat a boiled egg |
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On 22/05/2014 09:16, JTM wrote:
In article , John Rumm wrote: I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. I find if you get the technique right you can get ** foot ** From the Jeffrey Dhamer cookbook I guess?? Don't think I have seen that one... any good? (my technique is really a case of marinade first to add flavour and protect from over heating the outside. Don't cook over the charcoal until its had a few mins for the fiercest heat to die down. Seal / flash all round on the higher heat initially, but then move to a cooler bit to cook through. Having a trowel handy to shove coals about helps so you can create hotter and cooler sections. that is nicely cooked through, but still nice an juicy and just slightly crisp on the outside. Marinates and dips etc seem to take on extra flavour when used on stuff cooked over direct heat like that. John -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 22/05/2014 14:01, John Rumm wrote:
On 22/05/2014 09:16, JTM wrote: In article , John Rumm wrote: I've never really understood the point of barbecues. Colin Bignell You get to cook whilst ****ed and sitting in a deckchair. You also get to eat food that is charred on the outside and half-cooked on the inside. I find if you get the technique right you can get ** foot ** From the Jeffrey Dhamer cookbook I guess?? Don't think I have seen that one... any good? (my technique is really a case of marinade first to add flavour and protect from over heating the outside. Don't cook over the charcoal until its had a few mins for the fiercest heat to die down. Seal / flash all round on the higher heat initially, but then move to a cooler bit to cook through. Having a trowel handy to shove coals about helps so you can create hotter and cooler sections. that is nicely cooked through, but still nice an juicy and just slightly crisp on the outside. Marinates and dips etc seem to take on extra flavour when used on stuff cooked over direct heat like that. We obviously went to the same BBQ training camp :-) -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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Mr Rumm says... Inside will be hot mush caramelised banana. Sprinkle ona half teaspoon of dark sugar (muscavado or similar), then douse in dark rum. Enjoy while piping hot! Did you also invent the Rumm Baba? -- Sam |
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On 24/05/2014 19:17, Sam Plusnet wrote:
In article , Mr Rumm says... Inside will be hot mush caramelised banana. Sprinkle ona half teaspoon of dark sugar (muscavado or similar), then douse in dark rum. Enjoy while piping hot! Did you also invent the Rumm Baba? Sounds like my take on barbecued sheep! -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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In article , Huge wrote:
My gas barbie has a tray of lava rocks which the gas is supposed to heat up, which then cooks the food. It's an Outback of some description and it's a PoS. It never gets hot enough, the gas blows out in the merest zephyr, the cooking area is too small. I wish we'd never bought it. The charcoal one which preceded it was far superior. We've been given one like that by friends moving house who didn't have room for it, but I've not tried it out yet. Cooking area is a fair size though. And a co-worker with another Outback cooked happily for 40 or so developers without any problem, so they can't all be useless. |