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Helicopter noise
On 22/04/2014 19:05, tony sayer wrote:
..... You'd think they'd have better silencers or at least silencers but it seems that would cost too much for type approvals;!... So I was told be a flying type.. I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. Colin Bignell |
Helicopter noise
In message , Nightjar
writes On 22/04/2014 19:05, tony sayer wrote: .... You'd think they'd have better silencers or at least silencers but it seems that would cost too much for type approvals;!... So I was told be a flying type.. I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. A minor benefit of living on the edge of an airport control zone is avoiding this sort of activity. Mind, you still get the plutocrats helicoptering over to pick up their private jets. -- Tim Lamb |
Helicopter noise
On 22/04/14 19:31, Nightjar wrote:
On 22/04/2014 19:05, tony sayer wrote: .... You'd think they'd have better silencers or at least silencers but it seems that would cost too much for type approvals;!... So I was told be a flying type.. I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. Colin Bignell Very hard to silence rotors...90% if a helicopter sound is the rotors -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
Helicopter noise
In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes On 22/04/14 19:31, Nightjar wrote: On 22/04/2014 19:05, tony sayer wrote: .... You'd think they'd have better silencers or at least silencers but it seems that would cost too much for type approvals;!... So I was told be a flying type.. I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. Colin Bignell Very hard to silence rotors...90% if a helicopter sound is the rotors Much quieter where the tail rotor is ducted. -- Tim Lamb |
Helicopter noise
On 22/04/14 20:58, Tim Lamb wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher writes On 22/04/14 19:31, Nightjar wrote: On 22/04/2014 19:05, tony sayer wrote: .... You'd think they'd have better silencers or at least silencers but it seems that would cost too much for type approvals;!... So I was told be a flying type.. I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. Colin Bignell Very hard to silence rotors...90% if a helicopter sound is the rotors Much quieter where the tail rotor is ducted. Not on a soddin chinook or apache.. Dogs can hear em at 5 miles, and then they fly over at 200ft.. http://vps.templar.co.uk/Odds%20and%...Helicopter.jpg Takene from where I am sitting now -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
Helicopter noise
On 22/04/2014 20:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/04/14 19:31, Nightjar wrote: On 22/04/2014 19:05, tony sayer wrote: .... You'd think they'd have better silencers or at least silencers but it seems that would cost too much for type approvals;!... So I was told be a flying type.. I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. Very hard to silence rotors...90% if a helicopter sound is the rotors Although the discussion had moved on to light aircraft doing aerobatics and, for those, most of the noise is engine noise. Colin Bignell |
Helicopter noise
On 22/04/14 23:05, Nightjar wrote:
On 22/04/2014 20:35, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 22/04/14 19:31, Nightjar wrote: On 22/04/2014 19:05, tony sayer wrote: .... You'd think they'd have better silencers or at least silencers but it seems that would cost too much for type approvals;!... So I was told be a flying type.. I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. Very hard to silence rotors...90% if a helicopter sound is the rotors Although the discussion had moved on to light aircraft doing aerobatics and, for those, most of the noise is engine noise. Nope. Prop noise at least 50% Colin Bignell -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
Helicopter noise
On Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:38:51 PM UTC+1, JimK wrote:
Does anyone have any thoughts/experiences? I don't know, but I know several people that would. Since it's you though, you can go and **** yourself Jim. |
Helicopter noise
The Natural Philosopher posted
Not on a soddin chinook or apache.. Dogs can hear em at 5 miles, and then they fly over at 200ft.. http://vps.templar.co.uk/Odds%20and%...Helicopter.jpg Takene from where I am sitting now Yes we get those in deepest East Devon. A bloody nuisance, especially when they circle. The light aircraft are a pain too. I hear one crashed near Colyton the other day, killing the sky-louse driving it. Good. -- Les |
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On 23/04/14 10:32, Big Les Wade wrote:
The Natural Philosopher posted Not on a soddin chinook or apache.. Dogs can hear em at 5 miles, and then they fly over at 200ft.. http://vps.templar.co.uk/Odds%20and%...Helicopter.jpg Takene from where I am sitting now Yes we get those in deepest East Devon. A bloody nuisance, especially when they circle. The light aircraft are a pain too. I hear one crashed near Colyton the other day, killing the sky-louse driving it. Good. WEll having grown up on the approach path to the secret vickers airfield I got used to V bombers at 50 feet where I were a lad. And heathrow stuff as well. But what irked me the last time I visited there before my parent got terminally ill was te constant background noise from the.... ....M25, now only 3 miles away. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On Wed, 23 Apr 2014 11:51:01 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: WEll having grown up on the approach path to the secret vickers airfield I got used to V bombers at 50 feet where I were a lad. Brooklands? I lived near there when I were now't but a lad and visited a few times in the care of my next door neighbour who worked there. I once saw Barnes Wallis at work in his raised-up office: something taken over from the race-track days, I think, but was never allowed to approach the great man. Nick |
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On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:07:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: I wouldn't be surprised if that wouldn't set a manufacturer back a couple of million pounds, for something many users probably wouldn't want to fit anyway. If it is a warbird, which are quite popular for aerobatics, there might not even be a manufacturer still around to get it approved. Colin Bignell At least most warbirds make a sound that has some character and look reasonably interesting where as the modern thing that pesters us sounds as pleasant as a chainsaw. Very hard to silence rotors...90% if a helicopter sound is the rotors Much quieter where the tail rotor is ducted. Not on a soddin chinook or apache.. Dogs can hear em at 5 miles, and then they fly over at 200ft.. http://vps.templar.co.uk/Odds%20and%...Helicopter.jpg Takene from where I am sitting now Get them just like that, mainly at night. Had a sound in the house a few weeks back that was really bugging me,turned out it was a light fitting being vibrated by Apaches. Could not hear the machines themselves and it was a night or two later when they came closer I noticed what was the cause . So that is now an early warning device. But like the Hunters and Buccaneers etc that used to suddenly wake the dead and make groggles **** themselves in the Low flying area I once lived in the presence is fairly short and exciting. Unlike the aerobatic enthusiast who resembles a mechanical bluebottle. G.Harman |
Helicopter noise
On Tue, 22 Apr 2014 22:07:51 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Very hard to silence rotors...90% if a helicopter sound is the rotors Much quieter where the tail rotor is ducted. Not on a soddin chinook or apache.. Dogs can hear em at 5 miles, I can hear the Chinooks inside at 5 miles ... Don't often get Apaches over here. Don't like them they just look so damn mean and nasty as they don't need to be streamlined. and then they fly over at 200ft.. That high? The Chinooks are quite often below us or at 50' and just a couple of hundred yards from the house. Half a dozen did that the other year boy did the windows rattle... The reason the Chinooks and other helos are so low, to keep out of the way of the fast jets that come down the valley at just above our level. At least the jets are up and past in less than 30 seconds. There can be a good 45 degrees between where a jet is and where it sounds it is. -- Cheers Dave. |
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