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ARW April 8th 14 08:59 PM

Well OT
 
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

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DerbyBorn[_5_] April 8th 14 09:19 PM

Well OT
 
"ARW" wrote in news:li1kh2$2r9$1@dont-
email.me:

http://en.akinator.com/personnages/


Virus threat!

Robin April 8th 14 09:22 PM

Well OT
 
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

** Not to be used without protective clothing near feminists. **

(I just tried it on 'er indoors and it asked questions like "Does your
character live with both his parents?" when it didn't yet know the sex
of the character.)


--
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reply to address is (meant to be) valid





[email protected] April 8th 14 10:25 PM

Well OT
 
On Tuesday, April 8, 2014 8:59:54 PM UTC+1, wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/
It is addictive.


It confuses Lord Peter Wimsey with Richard Hannay and Jackal.

Owain


John Rumm April 9th 14 12:16 AM

Well OT
 
On 08/04/2014 20:59, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.


Took over 60 questions to get to A.J. Raffles


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Johny B Good[_2_] April 9th 14 04:09 AM

Well OT
 
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 20:59:54 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

http://en.akinator.com/xxx/personnages/

It is addictive.


WARNING!

Infection BlockedURL:
h_pub_akinator_com__www__delivery__afr_php?charset
Infection: JS:Redirector-BJC [Trj]

It's got a trojan horse redirector.
--
Regards, J B Good

The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 9th 14 09:35 AM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.


It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I defeated it because it asked 'is your character a girl' and because
she was in fact a woman, I said 'no'


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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 9th 14 10:02 AM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.


It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything about
books written before 1980



--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.


Bob Eager[_3_] April 9th 14 10:54 AM

Well OT
 
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:02:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.


It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything about
books written before 1980


I tried it on 19th century and early 20th century books and it got them
every time.



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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 9th 14 11:13 AM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/14 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.


It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything about
books written before 1980



I would say it only actually got 5 out of about 40 right.

Amy Johnson, Amelia Earhart, Grace Hopper, Bagheera and Professor Plum.

It didn't know
Sir Nigel
Baroness Orczy
Peter Pienaar
Sax Rohmer
Tony McPhee
Patricia Holm
Hoppy Unitaz
Bill the Galactic Hero
Eric Prince of Amber
Tom Wolfe
Hilary Putnam

And it kept asking the same questions..

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lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.


The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 9th 14 11:16 AM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/14 10:54, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 10:02:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything about
books written before 1980


I tried it on 19th century and early 20th century books and it got them
every time.



Perhaps you only tried the 'ones everybody knows'

Rather than the 'ones that a lot of people know, but not you'

Oh It DID get 'Captain Nemo' but I think that was because he's been in
films. Narrows the range.

Reminds me of the book title I used to defeat some silly party gamne

"The electric kool-aid acid test" is apparently not as well known as I
thought.



--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.


Bob Eager[_3_] April 9th 14 12:07 PM

Well OT
 
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 11:13:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Patricia Holm
Hoppy Unitaz


Ha! I doubt many *people* would these days (I do).

It got Irene Adler, though. Mind, that's been on TV.

I was thinking of Hoppy and his famous phrase "Shall I give him de woiks,
boss?" only yesterday, strangely...

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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 9th 14 01:38 PM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/14 12:07, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 11:13:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Patricia Holm
Hoppy Unitaz


Ha! I doubt many *people* would these days (I do).

I own all but one of the saint books and then I discovered they were ALL
on ebooks.

So if anyone wants the entire paperback collection -1, tatty as
whatever culled from half a dozen publishers over 30 years in many
different countries..



It got Irene Adler, though. Mind, that's been on TV.

I was thinking of Hoppy and his famous phrase "Shall I give him de woiks,
boss?" only yesterday, strangely...



--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.


Johny B Good[_2_] April 9th 14 01:41 PM

Well OT
 
On Tue, 08 Apr 2014 20:19:27 GMT, DerbyBorn
wrote:

"ARW" wrote in news:li1kh2$2r9$1@dont-
email.me:

http://en.akinator.com/personnages/


Virus threat!


So... Just you and me then? BTW, did you see the same trojan threat I
saw?

Looking at the way the thread is progressing, it's little wonder that
malware seems to be so successfully infecting windows machines in
spite of 'security patches. Maybe they're all using *nix based distros
(where the presence of such threats is largely of academic interest
other than to protect smb connected windows boxes).
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Bob Eager[_3_] April 9th 14 01:58 PM

Well OT
 
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 13:38:21 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 09/04/14 12:07, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 11:13:24 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Patricia Holm Hoppy Unitaz


Ha! I doubt many *people* would these days (I do).

I own all but one of the saint books and then I discovered they were ALL
on ebooks.

So if anyone wants the entire paperback collection -1, tatty as
whatever culled from half a dozen publishers over 30 years in many
different countries..


I have a very large number, but never counted...

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John Rumm April 9th 14 02:19 PM

Well OT
 
On 08/04/2014 21:19, DerbyBorn wrote:
"ARW" wrote in news:li1kh2$2r9$1@dont-
email.me:

http://en.akinator.com/personnages/


Virus threat!


Could you be more specific?

Reported as what, and by what?


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John Rumm April 9th 14 02:33 PM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/2014 04:09, Johny B Good wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 20:59:54 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

http://en.akinator.com/xxx/personnages/

It is addictive.


WARNING!

Infection BlockedURL:
h_pub_akinator_com__www__delivery__afr_php?charset
Infection: JS:Redirector-BJC [Trj]

It's got a trojan horse redirector.


Ah, a malwaretizing style hack - probably why I did not see it since I
run adblock.

More details on this one he

https://blog.avast.com/tag/openx/



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ARW April 9th 14 06:09 PM

Well OT
 
"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 09/04/2014 04:09, Johny B Good wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 20:59:54 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

http://en.akinator.com/xxx/personnages/

It is addictive.


WARNING!

Infection BlockedURL:
h_pub_akinator_com__www__delivery__afr_php?charset
Infection: JS:Redirector-BJC [Trj]

It's got a trojan horse redirector.


Ah, a malwaretizing style hack - probably why I did not see it since I run
adblock.

More details on this one he

https://blog.avast.com/tag/openx/



That says "Unfortunately, the only antivirus detecting this threat is avast!
" and I am running Avast which detected nothing.

--
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Lobster April 9th 14 06:27 PM

Well OT
 
On 09 Apr 2014, The Natural Philosopher grunted:

On 09/04/14 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything about
books written before 1980



I would say it only actually got 5 out of about 40 right.

Amy Johnson, Amelia Earhart, Grace Hopper, Bagheera and Professor Plum.

It didn't know
Sir Nigel
Baroness Orczy
Peter Pienaar
Sax Rohmer
Tony McPhee
Patricia Holm
Hoppy Unitaz
Bill the Galactic Hero
Eric Prince of Amber
Tom Wolfe
Hilary Putnam


Blimey, you are a man with too much time on his hands...!

--
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Lobster April 9th 14 06:36 PM

Well OT
 
On 09 Apr 2014, "ARW" grunted:

"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 09/04/2014 04:09, Johny B Good wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 20:59:54 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

http://en.akinator.com/xxx/personnages/

It is addictive.

WARNING!

Infection BlockedURL:
h_pub_akinator_com__www__delivery__afr_php?charset
Infection: JS:Redirector-BJC [Trj]

It's got a trojan horse redirector.


Ah, a malwaretizing style hack - probably why I did not see it since
I run adblock.


Does this mean that it only infects people who click on the infected
advert?

More details on this one he

https://blog.avast.com/tag/openx/


That says "Unfortunately, the only antivirus detecting this threat is
avast! " and I am running Avast which detected nothing.


Avast certainly caught it here.

The message is dated 13 Jan, so you'd hope that the bit about Avast
being the only one to detect it will be out of date now. It also says:

"Infection and consequences for users visiting a malicious website are
described in our recent post about malvertising, but today let’s look at
how to successfully clean, update, and secure your application. Below
are the top 5 most visited and infected sites. Is yours on this list?

pub.akinator.com
ads.locafilm.com
ads.novsport.com
ads.svetplus.com
116.66.206.132"

....so this akinator site must have known they've been infected for about
3 months. Brilliant.

--
David

DerbyBorn[_5_] April 9th 14 07:14 PM

Well OT
 
John Rumm wrote in
o.uk:

On 08/04/2014 21:19, DerbyBorn wrote:
"ARW" wrote in news:li1kh2$2r9$1@dont-
email.me:

http://en.akinator.com/personnages/


Virus threat!


Could you be more specific?

Reported as what, and by what?



AVAST - Threat Detected.

harryagain[_2_] April 9th 14 07:46 PM

Well OT
 

"ARW" wrote in message
...
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

--
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You might like this one if you're into geography.
http://www.lufthansa-vp.com/vp1/play.html



The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 9th 14 08:16 PM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/14 18:27, Lobster wrote:
On 09 Apr 2014, The Natural Philosopher grunted:

On 09/04/14 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything about
books written before 1980



I would say it only actually got 5 out of about 40 right.

Amy Johnson, Amelia Earhart, Grace Hopper, Bagheera and Professor Plum.

It didn't know
Sir Nigel
Baroness Orczy
Peter Pienaar
Sax Rohmer
Tony McPhee
Patricia Holm
Hoppy Unitaz
Bill the Galactic Hero
Eric Prince of Amber
Tom Wolfe
Hilary Putnam


Blimey, you are a man with too much time on his hands...!

Over 1000 books in my hard copy library and a;l;l of thise have been
read more than once

57 years of reading..

--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.


Bob Eager[_3_] April 9th 14 10:10 PM

Well OT
 
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 20:16:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 09/04/14 18:27, Lobster wrote:
On 09 Apr 2014, The Natural Philosopher grunted:

On 09/04/14 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything
about books written before 1980



I would say it only actually got 5 out of about 40 right.

Amy Johnson, Amelia Earhart, Grace Hopper, Bagheera and Professor
Plum.

It didn't know Sir Nigel Baroness Orczy Peter Pienaar Sax Rohmer Tony
McPhee Patricia Holm Hoppy Unitaz Bill the Galactic Hero Eric Prince
of Amber Tom Wolfe Hilary Putnam


Blimey, you are a man with too much time on his hands...!

Over 1000 books in my hard copy library and a;l;l of thise have been
read more than once

57 years of reading..


Quite a small one, then. We have ~ 4000 at last count. Excluding the
continuous run of Analog (under various names) since about 1943.



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The Natural Philosopher[_2_] April 9th 14 10:21 PM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/14 22:10, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 20:16:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 09/04/14 18:27, Lobster wrote:
On 09 Apr 2014, The Natural Philosopher grunted:

On 09/04/14 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything
about books written before 1980



I would say it only actually got 5 out of about 40 right.

Amy Johnson, Amelia Earhart, Grace Hopper, Bagheera and Professor
Plum.

It didn't know Sir Nigel Baroness Orczy Peter Pienaar Sax Rohmer Tony
McPhee Patricia Holm Hoppy Unitaz Bill the Galactic Hero Eric Prince
of Amber Tom Wolfe Hilary Putnam

Blimey, you are a man with too much time on his hands...!

Over 1000 books in my hard copy library and a;l;l of thise have been
read more than once

57 years of reading..


Quite a small one, then. We have ~ 4000 at last count. Excluding the
continuous run of Analog (under various names) since about 1943.



well I gave up collecting and started discarding some years back.
So many books are read once and chuck.




--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.


Bob Eager[_3_] April 9th 14 11:25 PM

Well OT
 
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 22:21:47 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 09/04/14 22:10, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2014 20:16:50 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 09/04/14 18:27, Lobster wrote:
On 09 Apr 2014, The Natural Philosopher
grunted:

On 09/04/14 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything
about books written before 1980



I would say it only actually got 5 out of about 40 right.

Amy Johnson, Amelia Earhart, Grace Hopper, Bagheera and Professor
Plum.

It didn't know Sir Nigel Baroness Orczy Peter Pienaar Sax Rohmer
Tony McPhee Patricia Holm Hoppy Unitaz Bill the Galactic Hero Eric
Prince of Amber Tom Wolfe Hilary Putnam

Blimey, you are a man with too much time on his hands...!

Over 1000 books in my hard copy library and a;l;l of thise have been
read more than once

57 years of reading..


Quite a small one, then. We have ~ 4000 at last count. Excluding the
continuous run of Analog (under various names) since about 1943.



well I gave up collecting and started discarding some years back.
So many books are read once and chuck.


Oh, we've done that too. Easier to do once we built the catalogue.



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Lobster April 9th 14 11:41 PM

Well OT
 
On 09 Apr 2014, The Natural Philosopher grunted:

On 09/04/14 18:27, Lobster wrote:
On 09 Apr 2014, The Natural Philosopher
grunted:

On 09/04/14 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 09/04/14 08:23, Huge wrote:
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.

It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.


I beat it so many times it crashed.

Its pathetic.
Keeps harping on about vampires and appears to not know anything
about books written before 1980



I would say it only actually got 5 out of about 40 right.

Amy Johnson, Amelia Earhart, Grace Hopper, Bagheera and Professor
Plum.

It didn't know
Sir Nigel
Baroness Orczy
Peter Pienaar
Sax Rohmer
Tony McPhee
Patricia Holm
Hoppy Unitaz
Bill the Galactic Hero
Eric Prince of Amber
Tom Wolfe
Hilary Putnam


Blimey, you are a man with too much time on his hands...!

Over 1000 books in my hard copy library and a;l;l of thise have been
read more than once

57 years of reading..


Actually I was on about the time you've spent playing this game... :)


--
David

John Rumm April 10th 14 01:20 AM

Well OT
 
On 09/04/2014 18:09, ARW wrote:
"John Rumm" wrote in message
o.uk...
On 09/04/2014 04:09, Johny B Good wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2014 20:59:54 +0100, "ARW"
wrote:

http://en.akinator.com/xxx/personnages/

It is addictive.

WARNING!

Infection BlockedURL:
h_pub_akinator_com__www__delivery__afr_php?charset
Infection: JS:Redirector-BJC [Trj]

It's got a trojan horse redirector.


Ah, a malwaretizing style hack - probably why I did not see it since I
run adblock.

More details on this one he

https://blog.avast.com/tag/openx/



That says "Unfortunately, the only antivirus detecting this threat is
avast! " and I am running Avast which detected nothing.


Malware that compromises ad servers is usually smart enough to only
poison a very small number of ads served - so on a typically site it
might only hit every 1000th visitor etc. It keeps the detection rate
much lower, since there is a very small chance a AV company will sample
the site at just the right moment.


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Vir Campestris April 11th 14 09:53 PM

Well OT
 
On 10/04/2014 01:20, John Rumm wrote:
Malware that compromises ad servers is usually smart enough to only
poison a very small number of ads served - so on a typically site it
might only hit every 1000th visitor etc. It keeps the detection rate
much lower, since there is a very small chance a AV company will sample
the site at just the right moment.


That doesn't work. There's also a much smaller chance of infecting anyone.

(think about it - say every 1000th hit is the AV company, and they
infect 1 in ten. After 500 hits they've infected 50, and been detected.
If they went for everyone it would only take 50 hits to infect the 50
people, and be detected)

Slower infection also means there is more chance that the on-server AV
will detect it, or that their exploits will be fixed.

Andy

John Rumm April 12th 14 02:45 PM

Well OT
 
On 11/04/2014 21:53, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 10/04/2014 01:20, John Rumm wrote:
Malware that compromises ad servers is usually smart enough to only
poison a very small number of ads served - so on a typically site it
might only hit every 1000th visitor etc. It keeps the detection rate
much lower, since there is a very small chance a AV company will sample
the site at just the right moment.


That doesn't work.


Its common practice, so some folks obviously think it worthwhile.

There's also a much smaller chance of infecting anyone.


Precisely, and that is exactly why they do it. If most people who visit
a site get served a "safe" ad, then the site does not acquire a
reputation for serving malware, and does not draw attention to itself.
However over time, they will still infect large numbers of visitors.

I would anticipate that AV companies will pay more attention to sites
that draw lots of reports from users than those that don't.

(think about it - say every 1000th hit is the AV company, and they
infect 1 in ten. After 500 hits they've infected 50, and been detected.
If they went for everyone it would only take 50 hits to infect the 50
people, and be detected)


Remember though that this is a compromised ad server we are talking
about - so even if they go for a regular "1 in n" approach to serving
malign ads (rather than a more randomised approach), the ads will be
distributed over a number of web sites dictated by who is using the ad
server. So infection attempts will not necessarily correlate well with
visits to a particular site.

(And if the AV company is getting reports of problems from lots of users
/ honeypots for a particular site then they will obviously increase
their scrutiny of that site).

Slower infection also means there is more chance that the on-server AV
will detect it, or that their exploits will be fixed.


Surprisingly few web servers also run their own AV sadly... However in
this case its not the web server itself that is compromised, its the ad
server they are sourcing ads from.


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JimK[_3_] April 13th 14 07:36 AM

Well OT
 
You should go to more parties- if you get any invites....:-)

Jim K

ARW April 13th 14 07:12 PM

Well OT
 
"Huge" wrote in message
...
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.


It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.



Just got "Guessed right one more time - I know who you are thinking of and I
believe it's not for children"

Well that's rich considering it guessed my last character correctly ie John
Holmes and it now finds out that Duke Nukem is not for children.

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Bob Eager[_3_] April 13th 14 09:35 PM

Well OT
 
On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 19:12:43 +0100, ARW wrote:

"Huge" wrote in message
...
On 2014-04-08, ARW wrote:
http://en.akinator.com/personnages/

It is addictive.


It is.

And I had to go *really* obscure to beat it. Took 3 goes.



Just got "Guessed right one more time - I know who you are thinking of
and I believe it's not for children"

Well that's rich considering it guessed my last character correctly ie
John Holmes and it now finds out that Duke Nukem is not for children.


It guessed Rachel Riley far too easily.



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John Rumm April 15th 14 02:12 PM

Well OT
 
On 12/04/2014 14:45, John Rumm wrote:
On 11/04/2014 21:53, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 10/04/2014 01:20, John Rumm wrote:
Malware that compromises ad servers is usually smart enough to only
poison a very small number of ads served - so on a typically site it
might only hit every 1000th visitor etc. It keeps the detection rate
much lower, since there is a very small chance a AV company will sample
the site at just the right moment.


That doesn't work.


Its common practice, so some folks obviously think it worthwhile.

There's also a much smaller chance of infecting anyone.


Precisely, and that is exactly why they do it. If most people who visit
a site get served a "safe" ad, then the site does not acquire a
reputation for serving malware, and does not draw attention to itself.
However over time, they will still infect large numbers of visitors.

I would anticipate that AV companies will pay more attention to sites
that draw lots of reports from users than those that don't.

(think about it - say every 1000th hit is the AV company, and they
infect 1 in ten. After 500 hits they've infected 50, and been detected.
If they went for everyone it would only take 50 hits to infect the 50
people, and be detected)


Remember though that this is a compromised ad server we are talking
about - so even if they go for a regular "1 in n" approach to serving
malign ads (rather than a more randomised approach), the ads will be
distributed over a number of web sites dictated by who is using the ad
server. So infection attempts will not necessarily correlate well with
visits to a particular site.



By coincidence I came across this talk by a former spyware software
developer, that touches on some of these things - this is the second
part of a three part talk he gave at DEFCON 18:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpJSEY1O_Pc

Makes for quite entertaining viewing.



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