Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Andy Burns wrote:
Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Wallpaper steamer?

Tim

something on a scaffold tower or maybe its just a large sledge hammer!

Brian

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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:37:14 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles
Tea making in the messroom?

What about the full high vis,
The CSCS card
The reverse parking rules

All to operate a laptop or use a terminal driver in a control panel.

To use the term "safety" is a misnomer.
It's damn all to do with safety. It's a bunch of useless ******* who
think that the more rules and equipment that are in place the more
they can justify their useless existence.

The idiots dont even stop at health and safety now. They want to know
how many miles you had to travel to get to site and whether it were a
petrol or diesel device that transported you. Then the pillocks
dictate that you must be fully covered i.e no short sleeves because of
skin cancer. They then go on to enlighten people visiting the toilets
as to the colour their urine should be, testicular cancer signs and
various other piles of medical info that is best left to the
professionals if advice were needed.

Being green hasn't quite caught up with "health & safety" as a refuge
for the *******, but it isn't far behind!


If this seems like a joke, try visiting a water treatment works. In a
truly competetive world the idiots that dictate some of this crud
would be signing on at the dole office. Sadly there is no true
competition and nothing to stop any moron dictating their
interpretation of health and safety requirements with the
consequential costs. The long suffering public bestow millions on
these cretins and have no choice in the matter. The HSE publish some
excellent literature firmly grounded in common sense and
practicalities. How so many seem to get away with "improvements" to
HSE guidelines beats me.

In not one site I have visited have I seen a risk assessment that
takes in the risks associated with PPE, in fact if you bring the
subject up you do get a few blank looks.

One thing you will not see on noticeboards are items detailing
accidents relating to PPE. There was a spate of them by one contractor
for a while, but PPE related incidents no longer seem to be
communicated. It may perhaps give the poor victim ideas that some of
the garbage they have to wear is not that safe after all, and lead
them on to the solicitors office.


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Tim+ wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Wallpaper steamer?

Nope, an RCD tester

http://www.mammoth-hire.co.uk/produc...-tester-320185

Mammoth seems to be an online discount arm of Hire Station, I know the
in-branch rates are often negotiable, the rack rate of a wacker plate is
£84.72 for a weekend, the mammoth price I paid was £27.54

The only rankle is they insist you purchase a full tank of fuel at
£11.10 (you can return it empty) which I though might be an overpriced 1
gallon or so capacity, turns out it's only 1.2 litres, so about £41/gallon!!

I agree with all that. It was pretty bad back in the 90s, but now, blimey.

Of course one bloke i worked with did everything asked of him and sweated
buckets in hot summer days, got sent home with heat exhaustion, so the fluid
intake was added to the hse rules, but while at home he slipped on a glossy
magazine his sun left on the floor and p broke his ankle.
Accidents happen, that is t really the message and some people need to
teach common sense to the masses and not try to second guess every possible
scenario in life.
Brian

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"Archibald" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:37:14 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles
Tea making in the messroom?

What about the full high vis,
The CSCS card
The reverse parking rules

All to operate a laptop or use a terminal driver in a control panel.

To use the term "safety" is a misnomer.
It's damn all to do with safety. It's a bunch of useless ******* who
think that the more rules and equipment that are in place the more
they can justify their useless existence.

The idiots dont even stop at health and safety now. They want to know
how many miles you had to travel to get to site and whether it were a
petrol or diesel device that transported you. Then the pillocks
dictate that you must be fully covered i.e no short sleeves because of
skin cancer. They then go on to enlighten people visiting the toilets
as to the colour their urine should be, testicular cancer signs and
various other piles of medical info that is best left to the
professionals if advice were needed.

Being green hasn't quite caught up with "health & safety" as a refuge
for the *******, but it isn't far behind!


If this seems like a joke, try visiting a water treatment works. In a
truly competetive world the idiots that dictate some of this crud
would be signing on at the dole office. Sadly there is no true
competition and nothing to stop any moron dictating their
interpretation of health and safety requirements with the
consequential costs. The long suffering public bestow millions on
these cretins and have no choice in the matter. The HSE publish some
excellent literature firmly grounded in common sense and
practicalities. How so many seem to get away with "improvements" to
HSE guidelines beats me.

In not one site I have visited have I seen a risk assessment that
takes in the risks associated with PPE, in fact if you bring the
subject up you do get a few blank looks.

One thing you will not see on noticeboards are items detailing
accidents relating to PPE. There was a spate of them by one contractor
for a while, but PPE related incidents no longer seem to be
communicated. It may perhaps give the poor victim ideas that some of
the garbage they have to wear is not that safe after all, and lead
them on to the solicitors office.


AB

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:32:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I agree with all that. It was pretty bad back in the 90s, but now, blimey.

Of course one bloke i worked with did everything asked of him and sweated
buckets in hot summer days, got sent home with heat exhaustion, so the fluid
intake was added to the hse rules, but while at home he slipped on a glossy
magazine his sun left on the floor and p broke his ankle.
Accidents happen, that is t really the message and some people need to
teach common sense to the masses and not try to second guess every possible
scenario in life.
Brian

There is also the other aspect. All these people that need to be told
to wear appropriate, required PPE, not jump into the nearest confined
space etc, will go on to produce offspring in need of ever increasing
amounts of supervision and guidance.

I can't help but think that we have penalised future generations quite
enough with global warming, pollution and planet pillaging. Now we
will supply them with with a sub class the like of which would
certainly remove Darwins "street cred"!!

AB


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Actually, though if you want to enforce survival of the fittest, then I
would have been killed off as soon as my sight got bad enough to make me
have a fatal accident.
As it happens, I decided not to have kids and pass on the genetics, but the
thing is that the common sense aspect is more to do with nurture than
nature, and should be taught, just as tolerance for other peoples beliefs
should be.
Brian

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"Archibald" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:32:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I agree with all that. It was pretty bad back in the 90s, but now, blimey.

Of course one bloke i worked with did everything asked of him and sweated
buckets in hot summer days, got sent home with heat exhaustion, so the
fluid
intake was added to the hse rules, but while at home he slipped on a
glossy
magazine his sun left on the floor and p broke his ankle.
Accidents happen, that is t really the message and some people need to
teach common sense to the masses and not try to second guess every
possible
scenario in life.
Brian

There is also the other aspect. All these people that need to be told
to wear appropriate, required PPE, not jump into the nearest confined
space etc, will go on to produce offspring in need of ever increasing
amounts of supervision and guidance.

I can't help but think that we have penalised future generations quite
enough with global warming, pollution and planet pillaging. Now we
will supply them with with a sub class the like of which would
certainly remove Darwins "street cred"!!

AB


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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:32:06 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

Actually, though if you want to enforce survival of the fittest, then I
would have been killed off as soon as my sight got bad enough to make me
have a fatal accident.

A debateable point of view.

Obviously your ancestors were not prone to having accidents too early
in life.



As it happens, I decided not to have kids and pass on the genetics,

Perhaps they might benefit in other area's. I get the impression that
they may have had a lot to thank you for.


but the
thing is that the common sense aspect is more to do with nurture than
nature, and should be taught, just as tolerance for other peoples beliefs
should be.
Brian

Hmm, I always equated common sense with intelligence i.e The ability
to transfer something in One's experience or learning to a broadly
similar situation.

I am in full agreement with the tolerance to others beliefs. All
that's needed is a bit of pentathol to find out who believes in what,
then the liars could be identified and their followers enlightened or
reprogrammed.

A. Blair would not require pentathol BTW


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"Archibald" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:32:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I agree with all that. It was pretty bad back in the 90s, but now, blimey.

Of course one bloke i worked with did everything asked of him and sweated
buckets in hot summer days, got sent home with heat exhaustion, so the
fluid
intake was added to the hse rules, but while at home he slipped on a
glossy
magazine his sun left on the floor and p broke his ankle.
Accidents happen, that is t really the message and some people need to
teach common sense to the masses and not try to second guess every
possible
scenario in life.
Brian

There is also the other aspect. All these people that need to be told
to wear appropriate, required PPE, not jump into the nearest confined
space etc, will go on to produce offspring in need of ever increasing
amounts of supervision and guidance.

Most of those who did manage to kill themselves
had already produced the kids before they did that.

I can't help but think that we have penalised future generations quite
enough with global warming, pollution and planet pillaging. Now we
will supply them with with a sub class the like of which would
certainly remove Darwins "street cred"!!

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Tim+ wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Wallpaper steamer?

Nope, an RCD tester

http://www.mammoth-hire.co.uk/produc...-tester-320185


Now if it was a megger tester I would agree with the gloves.

It is my duty to get every new apprentice to hold the cables when I do a
500V test...

--
Adam

Brian Gaff wrote

Actually, though if you want to enforce survival of the fittest, then I
would have been killed off as soon as my sight got bad enough to make me
have a fatal accident.

And the reality is that most who did get killed before there
was any real attempt to stop the stupids killing themselves had
already produced the kids before they managed to kill themselves.

Not always, particularly with the most stupid apprentices, but usually.

As it happens, I decided not to have kids and pass on the genetics, but
the thing is that the common sense aspect is more to do with nurture than
nature,

I don’t believe that. Its much more about what you have between your ears.

The stupids that are very accident prone appear to be born that way.

and should be taught,

I'm not convinced that the worst of them are
actually teachable and I bet ARW agrees with that.

just as tolerance for other peoples beliefs should be.

I'm not convinced that that is teachable either
with the worst of the most rabid bigots.


"Archibald" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 09:32:45 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I agree with all that. It was pretty bad back in the 90s, but now,
blimey.

Of course one bloke i worked with did everything asked of him and sweated
buckets in hot summer days, got sent home with heat exhaustion, so the
fluid
intake was added to the hse rules, but while at home he slipped on a
glossy
magazine his sun left on the floor and p broke his ankle.
Accidents happen, that is t really the message and some people need to
teach common sense to the masses and not try to second guess every
possible
scenario in life.
Brian

There is also the other aspect. All these people that need to be told
to wear appropriate, required PPE, not jump into the nearest confined
space etc, will go on to produce offspring in need of ever increasing
amounts of supervision and guidance.

I can't help but think that we have penalised future generations quite
enough with global warming, pollution and planet pillaging. Now we
will supply them with with a sub class the like of which would
certainly remove Darwins "street cred"!!

AB


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On 16/03/14 18:58, ARW wrote:
"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Tim+ wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Wallpaper steamer?

Nope, an RCD tester

http://www.mammoth-hire.co.uk/produc...-tester-320185


Now if it was a megger tester I would agree with the gloves.

It is my duty to get every new apprentice to hold the cables when I do a
500V test...


And this:

http://www.mammoth-hire.co.uk/produc...ectric-250165/

has no mention of anything beyond gloves despite being able to
pressurise pipework to 78 bar!!!

Goggles would not be a totally stupid idea seeing as a fitting might
come hurtling towards you!

Just goes to show what a lot of old ******** these warnings are - bear
no resemblance to reality either way.

On 2014-03-16, ARW wrote:

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Tim+ wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Wallpaper steamer?

Nope, an RCD tester

http://www.mammoth-hire.co.uk/produc...-tester-320185

I guess you could drop it on your foot.


Now if it was a megger tester I would agree with the gloves.

It is my duty to get every new apprentice to hold the cables when I do a
500V test...

You say "duty" like you don't enjoy it. ;-)

On 16/03/2014 19:37, Tim Watts wrote:
On 16/03/14 18:58, ARW wrote:
"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Tim+ wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Wallpaper steamer?

Nope, an RCD tester

http://www.mammoth-hire.co.uk/produc...-tester-320185


Now if it was a megger tester I would agree with the gloves.

It is my duty to get every new apprentice to hold the cables when I do a
500V test...


And this:

http://www.mammoth-hire.co.uk/produc...ectric-250165/

has no mention of anything beyond gloves despite being able to
pressurise pipework to 78 bar!!!

Goggles would not be a totally stupid idea seeing as a fitting might
come hurtling towards you!

I've had that. We were testing a compressor meant for a North Sea rig
and it had about 150 bar behind it - quite frightening as it whizzed
past my head.

When I left the company they were just quoting for a unit with 8500 bar
discharge pressure - eek!

SteveW

"Huge" wrote in message
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On 2014-03-15, Archibald wrote:

They then go on to enlighten people visiting the toilets
as to the colour their urine should be, testicular cancer signs

That isn't such a bad thing, given the propensity of fitters & the like
to put oily (and hence carcinogenic) rags in their pockets. Their
were signs about testicular cancer in WD & HO Wills fitting shop when
I worked there in the early 70's, so not a recent thing.

that sign was prolly put there by someone caught wanking in the bogs, 'i
wasnt chocking the chicken, i was checking for testicular cancer, honnest'

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:37:14 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Baby sling.

On 15/03/2014 21:37, Andy Burns wrote:
Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

My guess would be everything when it is added to the web site, until
somebody modifies the boiler plate entry for individual items.

Colin Bignell

On 19/03/2014 03:05, Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 21:37:14 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

Any guesses to what item of tool-hire equipment this refers to?

Use: Safety Boots
Use: Safety Gloves
Use: Safety Helmet / Hard Hat
Vertical Lifting Only
Keep Load Stable
Use: Web Slings & Shackles

Baby sling.

You mean a trebuchet?

Colin Bignell