In these days of public safety where is the fence?

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F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

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Once you install a fence you become responsible for its upkeep. The
other thing with fences is burglars climb over them, twist their ankle,
the sue.

Bill

On 02/19/2014 02:19 AM, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

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I walk at Seaford Head fairly regularly, it's really not a problem and
would detract from the raw natural beauty of the place. Having said
that, there was some advice just the other day that dogs should be kept
on a lead because there have been cases of them chasing rabbits and
birds and running over the edge. However I've seen and spoken to many
dog walkers over the years and it's never appeared to be an issue. The
biggest danger up there is stepping in dog-**** !

On 19/02/2014 02:19, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

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The edge recedes, on average, 0.5-1 metre per year, although there are
occasional much greater rock falls. Therefore, any fence would either
need to be quite a long way inland, preventing people from walking there
at all, or would need constant replacement / relocation.

Colin Bignell

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On 19/02/2014 02:19, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

http://tinypic.com/r/ea59mx/8

The edge recedes, on average, 0.5-1 metre per year, although there are
occasional much greater rock falls. Therefore, any fence would either need
to be quite a long way inland, preventing people from walking there at all,
or would need constant replacement / relocation.

Colin Bignell


Excellent - so we ARE getting further away from Europe

Andrew

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On 19/02/2014 02:19, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

http://tinypic.com/r/ea59mx/8

The edge recedes, on average, 0.5-1 metre per year, although there are
occasional much greater rock falls. Therefore, any fence would either need
to be quite a long way inland, preventing people from walking there at
all, or would need constant replacement / relocation.

Excellent - so we ARE getting further away from Europe

The land you are on isnt. There might be a bit
more water between you, but even that is unlikely.

Nightjar wrote:
On 19/02/2014 02:19, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

http://tinypic.com/r/ea59mx/8

The edge recedes, on average, 0.5-1 metre per year, although there are
occasional much greater rock falls. Therefore, any fence would either
need to be quite a long way inland, preventing people from walking there
at all, or would need constant replacement / relocation.

Colin Bignell


Does it fall off in one day or bit by bit? I can see a problem if you
look over the edge on the wrong day.

On 19/02/2014 06:31, Andy Cap wrote:
On 02/19/2014 02:19 AM, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

http://tinypic.com/r/ea59mx/8

I walk at Seaford Head fairly regularly, it's really not a problem and
would detract from the raw natural beauty of the place. Having said
that, there was some advice just the other day that dogs should be kept
on a lead because there have been cases of them chasing rabbits and
birds and running over the edge. However I've seen and spoken to many
dog walkers over the years and it's never appeared to be an issue. The
biggest danger up there is stepping in dog-**** !



It's probably not an area for jumpers as Beachy Head is so close. Last
time I walked up there the corpse retrieval team were in action, so I
overheard all the banter about body parts etc, and got the impression
they were up and down those cliffs more often than one might suppose.
Depressing, but fascinating in a ghoulish sort of a way.

On 02/19/2014 09:20 AM, F Murtz wrote:

The edge recedes, on average, 0.5-1 metre per year, although there are
occasional much greater rock falls. Therefore, any fence would either
need to be quite a long way inland, preventing people from walking there
at all, or would need constant replacement / relocation.

Colin Bignell


Does it fall off in one day or bit by bit? I can see a problem if you
look over the edge on the wrong day.

When I was in a youth group somewhat similar to the scouts, we went for
a walk along the cliff-top at about the mid-point of the photo. Most of
the group went over to the edge, laid on their stomachs and looked over!
It was utter madness and I just stood back in disbelief. Even more so
that the two leaders said nothing. Times, they have a changed.

On 19/02/2014 09:20, F Murtz wrote:
Nightjar wrote:
On 19/02/2014 02:19, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

http://tinypic.com/r/ea59mx/8

The edge recedes, on average, 0.5-1 metre per year, although there are
occasional much greater rock falls. Therefore, any fence would either
need to be quite a long way inland, preventing people from walking there
at all, or would need constant replacement / relocation.


Does it fall off in one day or bit by bit? I can see a problem if you
look over the edge on the wrong day.

The sea erodes the base of the cliff until it can no longer support the
chalk above it. The face of the cliff then shears off and drops into the
sea, where the rubble protects the base from erosion until it is washed
away and the procedure starts all over again. So it really isn't a good
idea to get too close to the edge at any time. Too close probably
meaning within 10 metres, as the 0.5m-1m is an average and much larger
collapses have occurred.

Colin Bignell

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Andy Cap writes:
When I was in a youth group somewhat similar to the scouts, we went for
a walk along the cliff-top at about the mid-point of the photo. Most of
the group went over to the edge, laid on their stomachs and looked over!
It was utter madness and I just stood back in disbelief. Even more so
that the two leaders said nothing. Times, they have a changed.

Your instinctive hazard perception may be the reason you are still
here, and some of them may not be.

--
Andrew Gabriel
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On 19/02/2014 06:31, Andy Cap wrote:
On 02/19/2014 02:19 AM, F Murtz wrote:
In these days of public safety where is the fence?

http://tinypic.com/r/ea59mx/8

I walk at Seaford Head fairly regularly, it's really not a problem and
would detract from the raw natural beauty of the place. Having said
that, there was some advice just the other day that dogs should be kept
on a lead because there have been cases of them chasing rabbits and
birds and running over the edge. However I've seen and spoken to many
dog walkers over the years and it's never appeared to be an issue. The
biggest danger up there is stepping in dog-**** !

I've known two dogs to run "over" vertical drops, one survived a 20-30ft
drop, the other didn't.

Dogs aren't always as smart as they look.

stuart noble wrote:

It's probably not an area for jumpers

Oh I bet it is. It looks quite chilly.

Bill

Andy Cap wrote:
Most of the group went over to the edge, laid on their stomachs
and looked over!

I visited Beachy Head about 15 years ago and tried that, but
just couldn't get my body to obey and get close enough to the
edge. I feel quesey just remembering it!

jgh