I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:50:33 PM UTC, wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to ceiling.



I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.



I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.



And recommendations?

spirit level & a pencil?

Jim K

On 18/01/2014 22:02, Jim K wrote:
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:50:33 PM UTC, wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to ceiling.



I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.



I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.



And recommendations?

spirit level & a pencil?

Jim K


NO! Even a cheap laser level is better than that. I only have a cheap
one bought from a shed many years ago when they were new to the DIY
market. In your case I would suggest looking for recommendations in
Amazon, which I usually find pretty reliable for tools.

I agree that a pencil and spirit level just does not cut the mustard.....

The screwfix laser level allowed me to mark a level line all around the room before it fell apart.....

And the laser level allowed me to mark up a vertical line once I found the midpoint of each wall.....

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:24:48 PM UTC, wrote:
I agree that a pencil and spirit level just does not cut the mustard.....



The screwfix laser level allowed me to mark a level line all around the room before it fell apart.....

?? define "fall apart"?

And the laser level allowed me to mark up a vertical line once I found the midpoint of each wall.....

spirit levels work for verticals too...

Jim K

It was mounted on a tripod that was of flimsy construction.

You had to rotate the laser level around the tripod, trouble was that the tripod moved as you rotated the laser level around some laser light moved up or down.

"Jim K" wrote in message
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On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:24:48 PM UTC, wrote:
I agree that a pencil and spirit level just does not cut the mustard.....



The screwfix laser level allowed me to mark a level line all around the
room before it fell apart.....

?? define "fall apart"?

And the laser level allowed me to mark up a vertical line once I found
the midpoint of each wall.....

spirit levels work for verticals too...

Jim K

Lot of people out there sre in sledgehammer-to-crack-a-nut syndrome.
Lasers not neccessary for tiny job like this. Just another toy.

Maybe handy if you did it for a living.

On 18/01/2014 22:51, Jim K wrote:
On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:24:48 PM UTC,
wrote:
I agree that a pencil and spirit level just does not cut the
mustard.....



The screwfix laser level allowed me to mark a level line all around
the room before it fell apart.....

?? define "fall apart"?

And the laser level allowed me to mark up a vertical line once I
found the midpoint of each wall.....

spirit levels work for verticals too...

Jim K


A bit of string and a weight is more accurate and it works for
horizontals too.

wrote:
I agree that a pencil and spirit level just does not cut the mustard.....

I had to mark the level of the bottom of the wall panels for a wet room.
I used a level and a pencil to work my way round the room, cross
checking by taking some levels across the room, and when I got back to
where I'd started I was only 1mm out.

Bill

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:14:41 PM UTC, newshound wrote:
On 18/01/2014 22:02, Jim K wrote:

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:50:33 PM UTC, wrote:

I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to ceiling.







I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.







I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.







And recommendations?



spirit level & a pencil?



Jim K





NO! Even a cheap laser level is better than that. I only have a cheap
one bought from a shed many years ago when they were new to the DIY
market.

pfft 6 ft spirit level & pencil serves many very well...

In your case I would suggest looking for recommendations in
Amazon, which I usually find pretty reliable for tools.

my case? SMS?

Jim K

On Saturday 18 January 2014 21:50 wrote in uk.d-i-
y:

I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level
so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the
way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece
of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather
flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?

I used a Stanley CL90 that I got on ebay half price from bloke in
London who'd bought it to do some tiling and had done with it.

It was *very* useful - having a cross line was invaluable.

It did a lot of other wirk until I dropped it (outside, tied to a ladder
setting a level datum around my bungalow gutter board for guttering).

I'm in the market for a new one.

My priorities a

Self levelling (a must)

Cross line and (but less importantly) a 3rd line at 90 degrees to the
side.

Green would be nice this time for extra visibility.


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Tim Watts wrote:

Green would be nice this time for extra visibility.

You can always paint it.

Bill

wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?

These work well and last for years. Abit overpriced.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Black-Decker...er+laser+level

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:50:33 -0800 (PST), wrote:

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of
wall.

If that works and looks right you must have the *only* house in the
whole world that has perfectly plumb, flat and square walls and
openings.

A laser level that can rotate is great for making sure that a row of
tiles (or wallpaper border) are a single contiguos row and not
slightly spiral and also run level with say the window sill (that
won't be *exactly* level).

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Dave.

On 19/01/2014 00:51, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:50:33 -0800 (PST), wrote:

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of
wall.

If that works and looks right you must have the *only* house in the
whole world that has perfectly plumb, flat and square walls and
openings.

A laser level that can rotate is great for making sure that a row of
tiles (or wallpaper border) are a single contiguos row and not
slightly spiral and also run level with say the window sill (that
won't be *exactly* level).


It also spans obstructions like doors and chimney breasts. Disbelievers,
by all means use your spirit level to rule the lines.

wrote in message
...
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so I
can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way
round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy.
It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?


I bought this http://www.screwfix.com/p/newtoy/50507 yesterday but I already
owned the tripod.

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On Sunday 19 January 2014 16:58 ARW wrote in uk.d-i-y:

wrote in message
...
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level
so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all
the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each
piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather
flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?


I bought this http://www.screwfix.com/p/newtoy/50507 yesterday but I
already owned the tripod.


Is that a 3 line model? (2 verticals at 90 degrees offset and one
horizontal line).

It's hard to be sure from their little picture...

If so - what's your opinion? I need to replace my broken Stanley CL90.
(not much luck fining a green line version that is not stupidly
expensive).

Tim
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"Tim Watts" wrote in message
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On Sunday 19 January 2014 16:58 ARW wrote in uk.d-i-y:

wrote in message
...
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level
so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all
the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each
piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather
flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?


I bought this http://www.screwfix.com/p/newtoy/50507 yesterday but I
already owned the tripod.


Is that a 3 line model? (2 verticals at 90 degrees offset and one
horizontal line).

It's hard to be sure from their little picture...

If so - what's your opinion? I need to replace my broken Stanley CL90.
(not much luck fining a green line version that is not stupidly
expensive).

It's a self leveling cross with a switchable side vertical or as you say a
"3 line model". Or if used in the non self leveling mode it can be used for
guttering etc:-)

It was used in anger yesterday afternoon. The owner of the house could not
believe that his 1907 house kitchen wall was a full brick level out fron the
front of the house to the back of the house.

It seems to be better than MY broken CL90 but it has only had 3 hours use.
Dunno what to do with the second vertical line ATM.

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Adam

On Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:23:38 PM UTC, wrote:

snip

It was used in anger yesterday afternoon. The owner of the house could not
believe that his 1907 house kitchen wall was a full brick level out fron the
front of the house to the back of the house.

well ok then, that's another use to add to the list...

OOI why did that crop up?!?

Jim K

"Jim K" wrote in message
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On Sunday, January 19, 2014 8:23:38 PM UTC,
wrote:

snip

It was used in anger yesterday afternoon. The owner of the house could
not
believe that his 1907 house kitchen wall was a full brick level out fron
the
front of the house to the back of the house.

well ok then, that's another use to add to the list...

OOI why did that crop up?!?

Sockets on the kitchen wall. The floor drops at the same angle as the
bricks.



--
Adam

Hiya,

On Sunday 19 January 2014 20:23 ARW wrote in uk.d-i-y:

If so - what's your opinion? I need to replace my broken Stanley
CL90. (not much luck fining a green line version that is not stupidly
expensive).

It's a self leveling cross with a switchable side vertical or as you
say a "3 line model".

Ah - good. I'll piut it on the list. I notice it's on a special and
there are 2 left in Tonbridge and 1 in T Wells and non for delivery,
which suggests end of line (=bargain). Better make my mind up quick!

Or if used in the non self leveling mode it can
be used for guttering etc:-)

Like the CL90? (the switch stops it blinking when the level is past the
pendulum's range to correct?)

It was used in anger yesterday afternoon. The owner of the house could
not believe that his 1907 house kitchen wall was a full brick level
out fron the front of the house to the back of the house.

I discovered I was the thickness of a brick course (quite thick in my
house) over a distance of 4.5m.

A full brick is quite good going!

It seems to be better than MY broken CL90 but it has only had 3 hours
use. Dunno what to do with the second vertical line ATM.

I have to admit - I used that once - floor tiles... Not a must-have for
me, but very occasionally useful...

Thanks for that!

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On Sunday 19 January 2014 16:58 ARW wrote in uk.d-i-y:


I bought this http://www.screwfix.com/p/newtoy/50507 yesterday but I
already owned the tripod.

Thanks for the tip matey...

I just collected mine - for £70 I am pretty impressed. Much better than
the CL90 it is replacing (broke mine):

1) I think it is *slightly* brighter - indoors, great, outdoors, maybe
depending on lots of things.

2) It is a more secure shape (less likely to drop from hand).

3) No pole (but I have mine left from the CL90). However, does come with
a very funky clamp for mounting onto almost anything. Contains a tripod
screw too.

4) Proper pendulum lock - I like this - for when you do want an angle.

Have not checked the accuracy yet - though I don't expect any
problems...

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wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?


If you're going to the US, these are available for a reasonable price.
In the UK they're wildly expensive.

http://www.amazon.com/Black-Decker-B...d+decker+level

Not as easy to use correctly as the horizontal only model.

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:50:33 -0800, stephenten wrote:

I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way
round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of
wall.

My neighbours didn't bother with silly old levels!
http://i38.tinypic.com/2en81on.jpg

MattyF wrote:

My neighbours didn't bother with silly old levels!
http://i38.tinypic.com/2en81on.jpg

You live next door to Adelbert Ames?

On Monday 20 January 2014 08:47 MattyF wrote in uk.d-i-y:

On Sat, 18 Jan 2014 13:50:33 -0800, stephenten wrote:

I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level
so I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all
the way round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each
piece of wall.

My neighbours didn't bother with silly old levels!
http://i38.tinypic.com/2en81on.jpg

Awesome! But not for migraine sufferers...
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coverage

On 20/01/2014 08:47, MattyF wrote:
My neighbours didn't bother with silly old levels!
http://i38.tinypic.com/2en81on.jpg

I've just carefully mounted a wall cupboard parallel to the ceiling it's
just below - not horizontal, that wouldn't fit in this place, where it
might have been horizontal a couple of hundred years ago, but not any more.

Unfortunately it's next to a floor standing unit.

Andy

Bosch Quigo.

In message ,
writes
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way
round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of
wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather
flimsy. It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?


I've flicked through the thread, and didn't see mine mentioned (I'm not
bothering about the debate about whittling your own level from a small
child).

I just getting to the end of the bathroom refit, and I bought one before
I started it has been used for studwalling, projecting levels around the
room, for things like getting the top of a cupboard opening level with a
door way. For getting tiles in different areas lined up, projecting a
line along plasterboard sheets for cutting. etc. etc. For some jobs it
is much easier.

I've got a Stanley CLLi:

http://www.ffx.co.uk/tools/product/S...20325356177123
1%20Fatmax%20Clli%20Self%20Levelling%20Cross%20Lin e%20Laser%20Kit

It works as you'd expect, The line is bright enough indoors, would as
has been mentioned struggle over longer distances out doors. Self
levelling, seems sturdy, with a rubbery cover over part of it. Seem to
be level (as accurate as a typical spirit level).

The sprung pole works well, it's easy to put up and move around. Doesn't
need to be especially plumb for the level to be happy. Slightly fiddly
if you are trying to get the line at just the right height, but you get
the knack (though more awkward if it happens to be where the pole joint
is). There are marks on the pole to help judge the adjustment required.
Level is easily rotated to project a level around the room.

Only limitation really is that it can't project the line vertically
quite up to directly above (or down for that matter). so if you wanted
to project a line across a ceiling there is a limit to where it would
reach. (I think they do a more expensive model with the laser window
extended up onto the top)

Would recommend it for a pretty cheap one, di the job for me :-)

And Folkestone Fixings are excellent retailers, good prices,and
efficient service.





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In article ,
wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way
round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy.
It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?

As regards a level line round the walls, those glass tubes connected by a
hose with water in them are extremely accurate. Can't remember what
they're called. But you do ideally need two people to use them. Any bit of
string with a weight on the end will give you a vertical.

I have a laser level - quite cheap - from Lidl. Nicely made with a little
tripod. But it still relies on its internal spirit level at the end of the
day.

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On 28/01/2014 13:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way
round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy.
It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?

As regards a level line round the walls, those glass tubes connected by a
hose with water in them are extremely accurate. Can't remember what
they're called.

Simply a water level;
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand...10/sd40/p21198

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 28/01/2014 17:41, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 28/01/2014 13:41, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way
round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of
wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy.
It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?

As regards a level line round the walls, those glass tubes connected by a
hose with water in them are extremely accurate. Can't remember what
they're called.

Simply a water level;
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand...10/sd40/p21198

£17 !!! Cheap aquarium airline and a couple of syringe bodies from the
local vet's when I needed one.

SteveW

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
I am about to tile all of the walls in a c shaped room from floor to
ceiling.

I am therefore in the market for a decent but good value laser level so
I can mark the walls with a perfectly horizontal plumb line all the way
round and also mark perfectly plumb vertical lines on each piece of wall.

I did use a screwfix one a few years ago, but felt it was rather flimsy.
It went back to the shop for a refund.

And recommendations?

As regards a level line round the walls, those glass tubes connected by a
hose with water in them are extremely accurate. Can't remember what
they're called. But you do ideally need two people to use them.



Any bit of string with a weight on the end will give you a vertical.

That's a cat toy:-)

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