http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!

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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!


"The current lighting on the Terminal 5 concourse is being replaced with
environmentally friendly LED bulbs"
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man will be happy in the knowledge that the
airport's light bulbs that shine down on them are 'environmentally
friendly'. What a load of arse. Anyone genuinely bothered about CO2 etc
wouldn't fly.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

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Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...wire-team-to-c
hange-tens-of-thousands-of-out-of-reach-light-bulbs-8961562.html
Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design
stage!


"The current lighting on the Terminal 5 concourse is being replaced
with environmentally friendly LED bulbs"
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man will be happy in the knowledge that the
airport's light bulbs that shine down on them are 'environmentally
friendly'. What a load of arse. Anyone genuinely bothered about CO2 etc
wouldn't fly.


But given that the airport is going to be there I'd rather the building
used energy as efficiently as possible.

Anyway, they are probably fitting LED becuase of lower running costs
and reduced maintenance costs - or in this case having lights that stay
alight :-)
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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...wire-team-to-c
hange-tens-of-thousands-of-out-of-reach-light-bulbs-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?



As ever these stories seem incomplete, AIUI it's not that they can't
change them, but H&S conserns.

I assume there are issues with the building being used 24/7, lots of
staff/public around, the height of the lamps, the machinery needed, the
amount of space you might need to cordon off etc. Dunno, but it's got to
be somethign to do with that sort of thing.
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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design
stage!

Then they will replace them with LEDs and work out that they are too
dim, and do the whole exercise again ;-)


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Tim Watts wrote:

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Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!

Would it have been impractical to design the bars the lights are on so they
could be lowered as happens in theatres?

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Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!

Would it have been impractical to design the bars the lights are on so
they could be lowered as happens in theatres?


Or incorporate a series of arty walking gantries into the design - and hang
the lights off those.

Oh - that would involve architects thinking - I forgot, silly me...

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Nicoll - news posts wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!

Would it have been impractical to design the bars the lights are on so
they could be lowered as happens in theatres?

Architects don't concern themselves with details.

I have a proposal (based on working in ba=rand new buildings) that members
of that profession should be compelled to live or work, as appropriate,
for at least 6 months in any building they have designed.

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Well, one would have thought that the original design would have included
the mounting hardware for a gondola system. I'm sure this was done in many
arenas with high cieling fitted lighting for goodness sake. What a bunch of
idiots the planning aceptance mob must have been.

Brian

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On 25/11/2013 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

You do have to look only at first class passengers on a long haul flight
to justify the claim. According to DEFRA, those passengers are
responsible for 322.3 gms of CO2 equivalent pre passenger kilometre
(gCO2/pkm).

The averages for aircraft a
Short Haul flights 95.9 gCO2/pkm
Long Haul flights 110.4 gCO2/pkm.
Domestic flights 163.1 gCO2/pkm

For comparison, some other figures a
London Underground 73.6 gCO2/pkm
Local London bus 86.3 gCO2/pkm
Tyne & Wear Metro 103.6 gCO2/pkm
Hybrid cars average 139.0 gCO2/pkm
Local bus (outside London) 185.9 gCO2/pkm

Electric cars, charged from the mains:
France 12 gCO2/km
UK 75 gCO2/km
China 115 gCO2/km
Note this is per car km, not per passenger km

Colin Bignell

In article , charles
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In article id, Jeremy
Nicoll - news posts wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...hwire-team-to-
change-tens-of-thousands-of-out-of-reach-light-bulbs-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!

Would it have been impractical to design the bars the lights are on so
they could be lowered as happens in theatres?

Architects don't concern themselves with details.

I have a proposal (based on working in ba=rand new buildings) that members
of that profession should be compelled to live or work, as appropriate,
for at least 6 months in any building they have designed.

Looking at the design, it is quite possible that it was designed with
maintenance in mind. There appears to be a continuous round tube above
the light fittings and it may have been intended to run a captive bogey
over that as a rail to maintain the lights.

I'd expect the truth of the matter is that that rail will be used to
suspend a mobile working platform.

The high-wire headline being bull**** of course as they admit in the
body of the story that it is simply roped access.
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On 25/11/2013 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?


That would be a bit less than a half empty train and a lot less than an
electric car and far far less than a cruise ship.

"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 25/11/2013 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

You do have to look only at first class passengers on a long haul flight
to justify the claim. According to DEFRA, those passengers are responsible
for 322.3 gms of CO2 equivalent pre passenger kilometre (gCO2/pkm).

The averages for aircraft a
Short Haul flights 95.9 gCO2/pkm
Long Haul flights 110.4 gCO2/pkm.
Domestic flights 163.1 gCO2/pkm

For comparison, some other figures a
London Underground 73.6 gCO2/pkm
Local London bus 86.3 gCO2/pkm
Tyne & Wear Metro 103.6 gCO2/pkm
Hybrid cars average 139.0 gCO2/pkm
Local bus (outside London) 185.9 gCO2/pkm

Electric cars, charged from the mains:
France 12 gCO2/km
UK 75 gCO2/km
China 115 gCO2/km
Note this is per car km, not per passenger km


Electric car charged from solar panels, 0g CO2/km

On 25/11/13 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

exactly. you should try walking a track that's been used by horses. My
god they make a muddy mess of anything. Worse than 4x4s.


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On 25/11/2013 16:14, harryagain wrote:


Electric car charged from solar panels, 0g CO2/km



Rubbish..
they have already produced several tons of CO2 before you buy one.

On 25/11/2013 16:14, harryagain wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
....
Electric cars, charged from the mains:
France 12 gCO2/km
UK 75 gCO2/km
China 115 gCO2/km
Note this is per car km, not per passenger km


Electric car charged from solar panels, 0g CO2/km

According to the IPCC in 2011, solar PV panels produce, on average, 46
gCO2/kWhe. A 2008 study showed a range of 53-217 g CO2/kWh. That is
compared to 16g CO2/kWh for a nuclear power plant. Hence an electric car
charged from solar panels is likely to be quite a bit worse than the
French electric car.

Colin Bignell

On 25/11/2013 17:23, dennis@home wrote:
On 25/11/2013 16:14, harryagain wrote:


Electric car charged from solar panels, 0g CO2/km



Rubbish..
they have already produced several tons of CO2 before you buy one.

That is generally reckoned to be about 70 gCO2e/km over the lifetime of
an electric car but, to be fair, none of the figures I gave included the
manufacturing load.

Colin Bignell

On Monday, 25 November 2013 15:00:40 UTC, Brian Gaff wrote:

Well, one would have thought that the original design would have included
the mounting hardware for a gondola system. I'm sure this was done in many
arenas with high ceiling fitted lighting for goodness sake. What a bunch of
idiots the planning acceptance mob must have been.

Acceptance is the key.
I doubt they would have designed it to be unserviceable. Only the idiots it was designed for probably thought they could get people to do it a lot cheaper. Maybe the gang that remodelled Windsor Castle.

In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
On 25/11/2013 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

You do have to look only at first class passengers on a long haul flight
to justify the claim. According to DEFRA, those passengers are
responsible for 322.3 gms of CO2 equivalent pre passenger kilometre
(gCO2/pkm).

The averages for aircraft a
Short Haul flights 95.9 gCO2/pkm
Long Haul flights 110.4 gCO2/pkm.
Domestic flights 163.1 gCO2/pkm

For comparison, some other figures a
London Underground 73.6 gCO2/pkm
Local London bus 86.3 gCO2/pkm
Tyne & Wear Metro 103.6 gCO2/pkm
Hybrid cars average 139.0 gCO2/pkm
Local bus (outside London) 185.9 gCO2/pkm

Electric cars, charged from the mains:
France 12 gCO2/km
UK 75 gCO2/km
China 115 gCO2/km
Note this is per car km, not per passenger km

Notice you've missed out ordinary cars. Over 400g per mile.

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In article ,
Tim Watts writes:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!

It costs £5K to replace some of the lamps in the London Underground.
That's one of the reasons they are moving to LED for some lights.

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o.uk...
On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design
stage!

Then they will replace them with LEDs and work out that they are too dim,
and do the whole exercise again ;-)


http://www.schneider-electric.co.uk/...Terminal_5.pdf

And from that link "We now have an ongoing relationship with BAA regarding
training and maintenance"

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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it much
higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from green
solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first place? Bet
it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not the local
circus high-wire team doing the wiring.

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Somebody must have put the light bulbs there in the first place why can't they do it the same way?

Richard

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article id, Jeremy
Nicoll - news posts wrote:
Tim Watts wrote:

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!

Would it have been impractical to design the bars the lights are on so
they could be lowered as happens in theatres?

Architects don't concern themselves with details.

I have a proposal (based on working in ba=rand new buildings) that members
of that profession should be compelled to live or work, as appropriate,
for at least 6 months in any building they have designed.

The French brothel architects agree with you.



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On 25/11/2013 19:09, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
On 25/11/2013 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

You do have to look only at first class passengers on a long haul flight
to justify the claim. According to DEFRA, those passengers are
responsible for 322.3 gms of CO2 equivalent pre passenger kilometre
(gCO2/pkm).

The averages for aircraft a
Short Haul flights 95.9 gCO2/pkm
Long Haul flights 110.4 gCO2/pkm.
Domestic flights 163.1 gCO2/pkm

For comparison, some other figures a
London Underground 73.6 gCO2/pkm
Local London bus 86.3 gCO2/pkm
Tyne & Wear Metro 103.6 gCO2/pkm
Hybrid cars average 139.0 gCO2/pkm
Local bus (outside London) 185.9 gCO2/pkm

Electric cars, charged from the mains:
France 12 gCO2/km
UK 75 gCO2/km
China 115 gCO2/km
Note this is per car km, not per passenger km

Notice you've missed out ordinary cars. Over 400g per mile.

My figures are grams per passenger kilometre.

I omitted cars simply because there are far too many variations,
depending upon size, fuel and occupancy. At one end, a diesel VW Polo
with four people aboard would be 37.9 gCO2/pkm. At the other, excluding
a few esoteric luxury cars, a petrol Land Rover Discovery with driver
only comes out at 286.9 gCO2/pkm.

Colin Bignell

On 25/11/2013 19:37, ARW wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
...
On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html


Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first place?
Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not
the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.


I suspect that the concourse was probably empty at the time. As Chris
French says, it gets rather more complicated when it is full of people
and has to continue to operate normally.

Colin Bignell

"Nightjar" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 19:37, ARW wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
...
On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html


Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first place?
Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not
the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.


I suspect that the concourse was probably empty at the time. As Chris
French says, it gets rather more complicated when it is full of people and
has to continue to operate normally.

And the high wire experts will not need the area below them corndoned off?



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In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
On 25/11/2013 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

You do have to look only at first class passengers on a long haul flight
to justify the claim. According to DEFRA, those passengers are
responsible for 322.3 gms of CO2 equivalent pre passenger kilometre
(gCO2/pkm).

The averages for aircraft a
Short Haul flights 95.9 gCO2/pkm
Long Haul flights 110.4 gCO2/pkm.
Domestic flights 163.1 gCO2/pkm

For comparison, some other figures a
London Underground 73.6 gCO2/pkm
Local London bus 86.3 gCO2/pkm
Tyne & Wear Metro 103.6 gCO2/pkm
Hybrid cars average 139.0 gCO2/pkm
Local bus (outside London) 185.9 gCO2/pkm

Electric cars, charged from the mains:
France 12 gCO2/km
UK 75 gCO2/km
China 115 gCO2/km
Note this is per car km, not per passenger km

Notice you've missed out ordinary cars. Over 400g per mile.

You must be on a higher social plane than me. My diesel estate is listed
at about the same as the hybrid cars average in the list, and I bet it
will carry more junk with more legroom for the passengers than any of
the hybrids I've seen.
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On 25/11/2013 20:14, ARW wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 25/11/2013 19:37, ARW wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
...
On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html



Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first place?
Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not
the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.


I suspect that the concourse was probably empty at the time. As Chris
French says, it gets rather more complicated when it is full of people
and has to continue to operate normally.

And the high wire experts will not need the area below them corndoned off?

I would expect them to sling netting close under where they are working
to protect people below, so probably not.

Colin Bignell

In message , "Dave Plowman (News)"
writes
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
On 25/11/2013 13:13, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
So all the people waiting to board the most environmentally damaging
form of transport known to man

Are you absolutely sure about that? Per passenger mile on a modern full
aircraft?

You do have to look only at first class passengers on a long haul flight
to justify the claim. According to DEFRA, those passengers are
responsible for 322.3 gms of CO2 equivalent pre passenger kilometre
(gCO2/pkm).

The averages for aircraft a
Short Haul flights 95.9 gCO2/pkm
Long Haul flights 110.4 gCO2/pkm.
Domestic flights 163.1 gCO2/pkm

For comparison, some other figures a
London Underground 73.6 gCO2/pkm
Local London bus 86.3 gCO2/pkm
Tyne & Wear Metro 103.6 gCO2/pkm
Hybrid cars average 139.0 gCO2/pkm
Local bus (outside London) 185.9 gCO2/pkm

Electric cars, charged from the mains:
France 12 gCO2/km
UK 75 gCO2/km
China 115 gCO2/km
Note this is per car km, not per passenger km

Notice you've missed out ordinary cars. Over 400g per mile.

You must be on a higher social plane than me. My diesel estate is listed
at about the same as the hybrid cars average in the list, and I bet it
will carry more junk with more legroom for the passengers than any of
the hybrids I've seen.
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"Nightjar" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 20:14, ARW wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 19:37, ARW wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html



Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first
place?
Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not
the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.


I suspect that the concourse was probably empty at the time. As Chris
French says, it gets rather more complicated when it is full of people
and has to continue to operate normally.

And the high wire experts will not need the area below them corndoned
off?

I would expect them to sling netting close under where they are working to
protect people below, so probably not.

Wasting more time and money.



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wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first place?
Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not
the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.

most likely the entire building was filled with scaffolding.

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"charles" wrote in message
...
In article , ARW
wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
...
On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first place?
Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not
the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.

most likely the entire building was filled with scaffolding.



Is scaffolding illegal? Then just install more scaffolding.

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wrote:
"charles" wrote in message
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In article , ARW
wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design
stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first
place? Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician
and not the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.

most likely the entire building was filled with scaffolding.



Is scaffolding illegal? Then just install more scaffolding.

a bit difficult when you've got thousands of customers wandering around.

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"Nightjar" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 20:14, ARW wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message
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On 25/11/2013 19:37, ARW wrote:
"GB" wrote in message
...
On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html



Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first
place?
Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician and not
the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.


I suspect that the concourse was probably empty at the time. As Chris
French says, it gets rather more complicated when it is full of people
and has to continue to operate normally.

And the high wire experts will not need the area below them corndoned
off?

I would expect them to sling netting close under where they are working to
protect people below, so probably not.

And the story is a wind up.-)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ightbulbs.html




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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
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Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design
stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first
place? Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician
and not the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.

most likely the entire building was filled with scaffolding.



Is scaffolding illegal? Then just install more scaffolding.

a bit difficult when you've got thousands of customers wandering around.

Driven northbound on the A100 to Tower Bridge recently?



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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design
stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first
place? Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an electrician
and not the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.

most likely the entire building was filled with scaffolding.



Is scaffolding illegal? Then just install more scaffolding.

a bit difficult when you've got thousands of customers wandering around.

Driven northbound on the A100 to Tower Bridge recently?

No.

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On 25/11/2013 12:45, Tim Watts wrote:
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/londo...s-8961562.html

Oops - someone did not really think that through at the design
stage!



That's odd. A scissors platform sounds perfect for the job, or is
it
much higher than it looks?

+1

Or will have to be a electric scissor lift that is only charged
from
green solar panels that is used?

How does anyone else think that the lights got there in the first
place? Bet it was a scissors platform or similar with an
electrician
and not the local circus high-wire team doing the wiring.

most likely the entire building was filled with scaffolding.



Is scaffolding illegal? Then just install more scaffolding.

a bit difficult when you've got thousands of customers wandering
around.

Driven northbound on the A100 to Tower Bridge recently?

No.


The LHS pavement of the A100 northbound up to the brigde is all covered
scaffold. And that bridge has thousands of tourists.

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