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Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:-
Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? -- *What happens if you get scared half to death twice? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:47:51 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? -- *What happens if you get scared half to death twice? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. So if the data transfer rate is 6Gb/s - what is their capacity? |
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On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:53:35 PM UTC+1, Phil wrote:
On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:47:51 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? -- *What happens if you get scared half to death twice? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. So if the data transfer rate is 6Gb/s - what is their capacity? Ah - I see - 1Tb |
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Phil wrote: On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:47:51 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? So if the data transfer rate is 6Gb/s - what is their capacity? Ah - so that's what it refers to. BTW, what on earth is your newsreader? It seems seriously broken. -- *I was once a millionaire but my mom gave away my baseball cards Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On 01/10/13 16:12, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , Phil wrote: On Tuesday, October 1, 2013 2:47:51 PM UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? So if the data transfer rate is 6Gb/s - what is their capacity? Ah - so that's what it refers to. BTW, what on earth is your newsreader? It seems seriously broken. Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 01/10/2013 14:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? It seems to be the going rate. EBuyer do it for £49.98 inc VAT. It's SATA III so you won't get 6Gb unless your motherboard supports it. Another Dave |
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On 01/10/2013 16:11 Another Dave wrote:
On 01/10/2013 14:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? It seems to be the going rate. EBuyer do it for £49.98 inc VAT. £47.84 at www.cclonline.com -- F |
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On 01/10/13 16:47, F wrote:
On 01/10/2013 16:11 Another Dave wrote: On 01/10/2013 14:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? It seems to be the going rate. EBuyer do it for £49.98 inc VAT. £47.84 at www.cclonline.com My supplier is always 15% more than the cheapest. OTOH he has never failed to take back something shagged but under guraantee without quibbling, and the last hard disk replacement came with free installation and testing.. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 01/10/2013 16:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 01/10/13 16:47, F wrote: On 01/10/2013 16:11 Another Dave wrote: On 01/10/2013 14:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? It seems to be the going rate. EBuyer do it for £49.98 inc VAT. £47.84 at www.cclonline.com My supplier is always 15% more than the cheapest. OTOH he has never failed to take back something shagged but under guraantee without quibbling, and the last hard disk replacement came with free installation and testing.. You use ebuyer too? Maybe not as they only satisfy the always replace it without quibble clause. |
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On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:58:36 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
On 01/10/2013 16:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote: On 01/10/13 16:47, F wrote: On 01/10/2013 16:11 Another Dave wrote: On 01/10/2013 14:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote: Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? It seems to be the going rate. EBuyer do it for £49.98 inc VAT. £47.84 at www.cclonline.com My supplier is always 15% more than the cheapest. OTOH he has never failed to take back something shagged but under guraantee without quibbling, and the last hard disk replacement came with free installation and testing.. You use ebuyer too? Maybe not as they only satisfy the always replace it without quibble clause. Don't even do that. |
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On 01/10/13 14:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. 6Gb/s thats the data transfer rate Thats what a seagate barracuda on SATA does these days if the computer can handle it. Am I missing something? -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them
up and how long does it take. Is two and raid the answer still? Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... Am looking for a new HD or two for my desktop, and this caught my eye:- Desktop 3.5" SATA 6Gb/s Hard Drives FROM £42.95 (£51.54 inc VAT) http://bit.ly/GzEPz3 And yes, it does appear to be 6Gb. Am I missing something? -- *What happens if you get scared half to death twice? * Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Brian Gaff wrote: I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them up and how long does it take. Is two and raid the answer still? RAID isn't backup... but yeah, two drives mirrored helps protect against disk failure. Beware exotic controllers though - if that goes pop you have two drives you can't access. Not sure how much of an issue that is these days. Ideally you would be able to just use either drive if you suffer a failure. If possible, raid and then backup to a 3rd drive that's offline (or even better, offsite) Darren |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them up and how long does it take. Is two and raid the answer still? RAID isn't a backup, if one gets corrupted or accidentally deleted the other immediately follows suit. |
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On 01/10/2013 20:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them up and how long does it take. Is two and raid the answer still? Brian That has never been the answer. What happens when the PSU blows both up, or someone steals it or you drop it on the floor or have a flood or a fire. As a backup strategy raid is cr@p. |
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On 01/10/13 20:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them up and how long does it take. well forme, its a networked srver, and I simply mirror one disk to the other using rsync, which only backs up the days changes, under CRON takes about ten minutes at 5 a.m. Is two and raid the answer still? RAID is avialability, not backup. Ideally backup should be on a different machine at a different location. Brian -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:20:56 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote:
I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them up and how long does it take. Now calculate the average unrecoverable error probability by the capacity of the drive... It gets horribly close to one. RAID's very nice. Until the controller goes titsup. |
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On 02/10/2013 08:06, Huge wrote:
On 2013-10-01, Adrian wrote: On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 20:20:56 +0100, Brian Gaff wrote: I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them up and how long does it take. Now calculate the average unrecoverable error probability by the capacity of the drive... It gets horribly close to one. RAID's very nice. Until the controller goes titsup. Which is why I prefer software RAID. So you prefer a solution where other drivers and even application software can make it go tits up? |
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In message , Brian Gaff
writes I'm getting worried about these big drives, where the heck do you back them up and how long does it take. In my case I backup to an external drive (when I get a roundtuit it will become a small NAS an live elsewhere on the network) and online with Crashplan. Intial backups may take sometime (esp. online with slow upload speeds), but after that only new data is backed up (I've no idea how long it takes, as it all happens automatically) -- Chris French |