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Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

It looks like the holder that Black & Decker sold many years ago to turn
one of their metal bodied drills into a sort of lathe.

http://toolsandpartsdirect.co.uk/Bla..._p-30-404.aspx

Shows the complete setup.

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:18:42 +0100, John Williamson wrote:

Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

It looks like the holder that Black & Decker sold many years ago to turn
one of their metal bodied drills into a sort of lathe.

http://toolsandpartsdirect.co.uk/Bla..._p-30-404.aspx

Shows the complete setup.

Ah I see. Not much use to me then, I've only got this bit.

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:03:40 +0100, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:18:42 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

It looks like the holder that Black & Decker sold many years ago to
turn one of their metal bodied drills into a sort of lathe.

http://toolsandpartsdirect.co.uk/Bla...Black--Decker-
D2160-Type-1-Lathe-Spare-Parts__p-30-404.aspx

Shows the complete setup.

Ah I see. Not much use to me then, I've only got this bit.

My dad only had that bit (it was all he bought). He used to use it to
mount the drill so he could run the sander as a stationary device. Also
for the flexible drive.



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On 14/09/2013 20:03, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:18:42 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

It looks like the holder that Black & Decker sold many years ago to turn
one of their metal bodied drills into a sort of lathe.

http://toolsandpartsdirect.co.uk/Bla..._p-30-404.aspx


Shows the complete setup.

Ah I see. Not much use to me then, I've only got this bit.


What you've got is similar to the lathe's drill holder - but it's not
the same.

Yours is designed for holding the drill in a horizontal position when it
is driving chuck-held[1] accessories such as grinding wheels, sanding
plates, etc.

[1] In some cases, the accessories might screw directly into the drill's
output shaft in place of the chuck rather than having a spindle which
needs to be held in the chuck

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:31:40 +0100, Roger Mills wrote:

On 14/09/2013 20:03, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:18:42 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

It looks like the holder that Black & Decker sold many years ago to turn
one of their metal bodied drills into a sort of lathe.

http://toolsandpartsdirect.co.uk/Bla..._p-30-404.aspx


Shows the complete setup.

Ah I see. Not much use to me then, I've only got this bit.


What you've got is similar to the lathe's drill holder - but it's not
the same.

Yours is designed for holding the drill in a horizontal position when it
is driving chuck-held[1] accessories such as grinding wheels, sanding
plates, etc.

[1] In some cases, the accessories might screw directly into the drill's
output shaft in place of the chuck rather than having a spindle which
needs to be held in the chuck

I think I'd just put the drill in my vice. My drills don't seem to fit into that holder anyway, the drills are too large, it seems to have been designed for a very puny little thing.

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On 14/09/2013 20:57, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

I think I'd just put the drill in my vice. My drills don't seem to fit
into that holder anyway, the drills are too large, it seems to have been
designed for a very puny little thing.

The original B&D drill format had a standardised case with lugs on the
that meant they fitted all the various add ons even where the actual
drill size varied in length. The back handle bit seemed to be a standard
size, but he gearbox length would vary.

Some photos

http://www.rolandandcaroline.co.uk/h..._a_lathe_.html

rather depressingly it seemed surprisingly difficult to elicit photos
from google of what many of us would recognise as the classic drill
style of our youth. Had to use the word "antique" in the end to dredge
up these:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-19...p2047675.l2557

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Bl...-/331017521609



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On 14/09/2013 20:57, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:31:40 +0100, Roger Mills
wrote:

On 14/09/2013 20:03, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:18:42 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

It looks like the holder that Black & Decker sold many years ago to
turn
one of their metal bodied drills into a sort of lathe.

http://toolsandpartsdirect.co.uk/Bla..._p-30-404.aspx



Shows the complete setup.

Ah I see. Not much use to me then, I've only got this bit.


What you've got is similar to the lathe's drill holder - but it's not
the same.

Yours is designed for holding the drill in a horizontal position when it
is driving chuck-held[1] accessories such as grinding wheels, sanding
plates, etc.

[1] In some cases, the accessories might screw directly into the drill's
output shaft in place of the chuck rather than having a spindle which
needs to be held in the chuck

I think I'd just put the drill in my vice. My drills don't seem to fit
into that holder anyway, the drills are too large, it seems to have been
designed for a very puny little thing.


It will only fit B&D drills - other makes require something different,
often collar clamps. It was probably designed for single speed B&D
drills. As soon as you include a 2-speed gearbox, the drill tends to be
too long to fit. You can squeeze a bit more length out of the stand by
moving the locknut outside the frame rather than inside, but that only
gains you a bit. I think I did once make one fit a 2-speed drill by
doing that (or was that a vertical drill stand - using the same system?)
It was all a long time ago - I have long since invested in dedicated
tools with their own motors rather than drill attachments.
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http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg



A bench mount for an early Black & Decker drill. It's standing on it's end
in the photo

AWEM

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:21:20 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news

http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg



A bench mount for an early Black & Decker drill. It's standing on it's end
in the photo

AWEM

We expected extra value from our power tools in those days.

http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...cket/bampd.jpg

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On 14/09/2013 19:43, Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:21:20 +0100, "Andrew Mawson"
wrote:

"Gefreiter Krueger" wrote in message news

http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg



A bench mount for an early Black & Decker drill. It's standing on it's end
in the photo

AWEM

We expected extra value from our power tools in those days.

http://i1258.photobucket.com/albums/...cket/bampd.jpg

Yes had one of those... had all the ergonomic charm of bagpipes!


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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:35:22 +0100, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:

http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

Bench stand for an old Black and Decker.



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On Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:35:22 PM UTC+1, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
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Streakers bewa Your end is in sight!

I've still got a similar one, but mine is the one made of sheet steel that screws directly to a bench or a wooden base. The one pictured is the cast one that doubled as a headstock in the B&D lathe. Mine is permanently screwed to a wooden base which is very quick and easy to clamp in my workmate when I need it.
I still have an old B&D single speed drill which fits it - must be 40+ years old now. Usually use it with a buffing wheel, flap wheel or sander.
Still have the B&D vertical drill stand - not very accurate but surprisingly useful now and then.
Just to complete the picture I also have a circular saw and an orbital sander both of which take the old drill.
All the above excellent value and have served me well over the years.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be!
Pete

On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 22:13:49 +0100, petek wrote:

On Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:35:22 PM UTC+1, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg



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Streakers bewa Your end is in sight!

I've still got a similar one, but mine is the one made of sheet steel that screws directly to a bench or a wooden base. The one pictured is the cast one that doubled as a headstock in the B&D lathe. Mine is permanently screwed to a wooden base which is very quick and easy to clamp in my workmate when I need it.
I still have an old B&D single speed drill which fits it - must be 40+ years old now. Usually use it with a buffing wheel, flap wheel or sander.
Still have the B&D vertical drill stand - not very accurate but surprisingly useful now and then.
Just to complete the picture I also have a circular saw and an orbital sander both of which take the old drill.
All the above excellent value and have served me well over the years.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be!
Pete

Do you still get the equivalent of a workmate?

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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 22:21:24 +0100, "Gefreiter Krueger"
wrote:

Do you still get the equivalent of a workmate?

Not once Adam's reamed them out.

In message ,
petek writes
On Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:35:22 PM UTC+1, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg



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Streakers bewa Your end is in sight!

I've still got a similar one, but mine is the one made of sheet steel
that screws directly to a bench or a wooden base. The one pictured is
the cast one that doubled as a headstock in the B&D lathe. Mine is
permanently screwed to a wooden base which is very quick and easy to
clamp in my workmate when I need it.
I still have an old B&D single speed drill which fits it - must be 40+
years old now. Usually use it with a buffing wheel, flap wheel or
sander.
Still have the B&D vertical drill stand - not very accurate but
surprisingly useful now and then.
Just to complete the picture I also have a circular saw and an orbital
sander both of which take the old drill.
All the above excellent value and have served me well over the years.

I still use the finger jointing kit.

Nostalgia ain't what it used to be!

Too right. How many overheated armatures got replaced over the years?
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On Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:13:49 -0700 (PDT), petek
wrote:

On Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:35:22 PM UTC+1, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg



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Streakers bewa Your end is in sight!

I've still got a similar one, but mine is the one made of sheet steel that screws directly to a bench or a wooden base. The one pictured is the cast one that doubled as a headstock in the B&D lathe. Mine is permanently screwed to a wooden base which is very quick and easy to clamp in my workmate when I need it.
I still have an old B&D single speed drill which fits it - must be 40+ years old now. Usually use it with a buffing wheel, flap wheel or sander.
Still have the B&D vertical drill stand - not very accurate but surprisingly useful now and then.
Just to complete the picture I also have a circular saw and an orbital sander both of which take the old drill.
All the above excellent value and have served me well over the years.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be!
Pete

+1

On 14/09/2013 22:13, petek wrote:
On Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:35:22 PM UTC+1, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg



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Streakers bewa Your end is in sight!

I've still got a similar one, but mine is the one made of sheet steel that screws directly to a bench or a wooden base. The one pictured is the cast one that doubled as a headstock in the B&D lathe. Mine is permanently screwed to a wooden base which is very quick and easy to clamp in my workmate when I need it.
I still have an old B&D single speed drill which fits it - must be 40+ years old now. Usually use it with a buffing wheel, flap wheel or sander.
Still have the B&D vertical drill stand - not very accurate but surprisingly useful now and then.
Just to complete the picture I also have a circular saw and an orbital sander both of which take the old drill.
All the above excellent value and have served me well over the years.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be!
Pete


BTDTGTTS

Rearranging stuff in the garage the other day, I came across a crate
with my and my dad's old B&D attachments. They date from the late
60s/early 70s. I'd fitted both the horizontal & vertical drill stands
onto wooden bases with a square section underneath for the Workmate, in
the same way as you did.

There's also a grinding/buffing wheel attachment. The wheel itself fits
onto an arbor screwed to the drill shaft, and the shield/rest attaches
to the horizontal stand. I think the 2-speed drill fits the stand, but
it's a long time since I used it.

There are also sanding pad, circular saw, jigsaw and orbital sander
attachments. ISTR a hammer drill attachment as well.

Dad had a lathe attachment, but I never used it and I'm not sure if its
still around.

I still have an instruction leaflet for all the accessories; how sad is
that?
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On 25/09/2013 12:55, Ramsman wrote:

Rearranging stuff in the garage the other day, I came across a crate
with my and my dad's old B&D attachments. They date from the late
60s/early 70s. I'd fitted both the horizontal & vertical drill stands
onto wooden bases with a square section underneath for the Workmate, in
the same way as you did.

There's also a grinding/buffing wheel attachment. The wheel itself fits
onto an arbor screwed to the drill shaft, and the shield/rest attaches
to the horizontal stand. I think the 2-speed drill fits the stand, but
it's a long time since I used it.

There are also sanding pad, circular saw, jigsaw and orbital sander
attachments. ISTR a hammer drill attachment as well.

Dad had a lathe attachment, but I never used it and I'm not sure if its
still around.

I still have an instruction leaflet for all the accessories; how sad is
that?

I recall being quite excited as a kid (probably around 10) when we
acquired this B&D "suitcase" that contained a B&D 2 speed (gearbox)
hammer drill, sander, jigsaw, circular saw, and various other add ons.
Cost £84 IIRC. Gave quite a few years of productive service before I
discovered real power tools! (The drill is still floating about in my
workshop somewhere and still works (never used mind you)).


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On 14/09/13 17:35, Gefreiter Krueger wrote:
http://petersphotos.com/temp/Thing%20(3).jpg

A drill stand for an old Black & Decker.