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Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi
tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? -- €˘DarWin| _/ _/ |
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Steve Firth writes: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? How about "24 hour CCTV recording" notices? -- Andrew Gabriel [email address is not usable -- followup in the newsgroup] |
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On 2013-06-24 10:25:06 +0000, Steve Firth said:
There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. What, no red or white sox? |
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Sounds funny at first but then you wonder how he knows when you're both not home which adds a rather sinister angle. Obviously he could assume you're at work during normal hours but I doubt he'd be wandering naked around your garden without knowing for sure that neither of you are there. Is he watching you/your cars? Would it be fair to assume that he's also visiting the gardens of other people who might not be as relaxed or secure about it as you are, if they knew? I'd consider reporting it, it may not be the first time he's come to their attention and it sounds like he's either up to something else, or soon will be. |
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On 24/06/13 11:39, Andrew Gabriel wrote:
In article , Steve Firth writes: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? How about "24 hour CCTV recording" notices? stick it on You tube. Or get a nice print, and pop it through his letterbox, NOT in an envelope. removal of background detail that might identify the location with photoshop is advised, too. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 24/06/13 11:57, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
"Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Sounds funny at first but then you wonder how he knows when you're both not home which adds a rather sinister angle. Obviously he could assume you're at work during normal hours but I doubt he'd be wandering naked around your garden without knowing for sure that neither of you are there. Is he watching you/your cars? Would it be fair to assume that he's also visiting the gardens of other people who might not be as relaxed or secure about it as you are, if they knew? I'd consider reporting it, it may not be the first time he's come to their attention and it sounds like he's either up to something else, or soon will be. Wandering around bollock naked in the dark is nice, but it is bound to be misinterpreted if you do it in someone else's garden or in the middle of suburbia. Ergo this man is probably 'sick in da head, mon'. I hate being a tell tale, but you might care to ask an expert in pyschology, whether in fact this is merely the sign of a harmless fruit, or whether in fact he is a possible danger to anyone. After all cats dogs bats owls and foxes wander around at night naked, so its not exactly unkown. It's just unusual to find humans doing it. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/06/13 11:57, Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Sounds funny at first but then you wonder how he knows when you're both not home which adds a rather sinister angle. Obviously he could assume you're at work during normal hours but I doubt he'd be wandering naked around your garden without knowing for sure that neither of you are there. Is he watching you/your cars? Would it be fair to assume that he's also visiting the gardens of other people who might not be as relaxed or secure about it as you are, if they knew? I'd consider reporting it, it may not be the first time he's come to their attention and it sounds like he's either up to something else, or soon will be. Wandering around bollock naked in the dark is nice, but it is bound to be misinterpreted if you do it in someone else's garden or in the middle of suburbia. Ergo this man is probably 'sick in da head, mon'. I hate being a tell tale, but you might care to ask an expert in pyschology, whether in fact this is merely the sign of a harmless fruit, or whether in fact he is a possible danger to anyone. After all cats dogs bats owls and foxes wander around at night naked, so its not exactly unkown. It's just unusual to find humans doing it. I would not hesitate in reporting this to the police. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/06/13 11:57, Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Sounds funny at first but then you wonder how he knows when you're both not home which adds a rather sinister angle. Obviously he could assume you're at work during normal hours but I doubt he'd be wandering naked around your garden without knowing for sure that neither of you are there. Is he watching you/your cars? Would it be fair to assume that he's also visiting the gardens of other people who might not be as relaxed or secure about it as you are, if they knew? I'd consider reporting it, it may not be the first time he's come to their attention and it sounds like he's either up to something else, or soon will be. Wandering around bollock naked in the dark is nice, but it is bound to be misinterpreted if you do it in someone else's garden or in the middle of suburbia. Ergo this man is probably 'sick in da head, mon'. I hate being a tell tale, but you might care to ask an expert in pyschology, whether in fact this is merely the sign of a harmless fruit, or whether in fact he is a possible danger to anyone. After all cats dogs bats owls and foxes wander around at night naked, so its not exactly unkown. It's just unusual to find humans doing it. A psychologist might well predict that once the jollies of running around other people's gardens naked (unseen - or so he thought) wears off, he might start looking into windows or doing it when people are home and could glance out of the window and see him, or doing it in more public places. I'd say he wants to be seen, and is building up his confidence and his arousal by doing it in the dark or at empty properties. For now. If he wanted to merely stroll around naked and didn't need the thrill of being seen, he'd be doing it in his own garden or in seculded woods somewhere. As forensic psychologists would say, he may well be "progressing". Gradually, the thrill of doing the same old thing subsides while his confidence rises, and he'll have to start adding something to each "foray" to get the same buzz, it's almost inevitable. It is often said that flashers tend to be voyeuristic too. Both are (usually) non-consensual "fetishes". |
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"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message ... A psychologist might well predict that once the jollies of running around other people's gardens naked (unseen - or so he thought) wears off, he might start looking into windows or doing it when people are home and could glance out of the window and see him, or doing it in more public places. I'd say he wants to be seen, and is building up his confidence and his arousal by doing it in the dark or at empty properties. For now. If he wanted to merely stroll around naked and didn't need the thrill of being seen, he'd be doing it in his own garden or in seculded woods somewhere. As forensic psychologists would say, he may well be "progressing". Gradually, the thrill of doing the same old thing subsides while his confidence rises, and he'll have to start adding something to each "foray" to get the same buzz, it's almost inevitable. It is often said that flashers tend to be voyeuristic too. Both are (usually) non-consensual "fetishes". * I'm not an expert. But I would be wary of the confrontational approach, I'd suggest showing the pictures to the Police and asking them to have a quiet no-names word with him and calmly suggest that he stops. Nobody knows what screws he has loose (or how many), directly ****ing him off might lead to some kind of long-running conflict which nobody needs. In the meantime it might be worth putting up some motion-activated lights so that next time he turns up, he'll be fully illuminated and might scuttle off. |
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"Mentalguy2k8" wrote:
Sounds funny at first but then you wonder how he knows when you're both not home which adds a rather sinister angle. Obviously he could assume you're at work during normal hours but I doubt he'd be wandering naked around your garden without knowing for sure that neither of you are there. Is he watching you/your cars? He's in a position to see cars coming and going so, probably. Would it be fair to assume that he's also visiting the gardens of other people who might not be as relaxed or secure about it as you are, if they knew? I'd consider reporting it, it may not be the first time he's come to their attention and it sounds like he's either up to something else, or soon will be. I don't think so, not many houses in the area. We live way out in the sticks and the only access to other houses would be along an "A" road. Our drive is a country lane that he can access without going on the road, no other property has access to it. If he tried to get to other properties he would have to scale a barbed wire fence and cross a waist-high field of stinging nettles and ford the stream. He'd then have access to three or four other properties over a distance of about a mile. However one of those properties is owned by an Ag contractor who keeps large fierce dogs and others keep horses, goats, sheep and geese. Someone, I think it wasTNP, suggested consulting a psychologist. That's easy for me, I could ask my wife who specialised in abnormal (forensic) psychology. However she's in housewife mode at the moment and just shouted "oh the dirty *******" when she saw the pics. She also told me that he has been flashing, sort of. His home has a large patio window and deck and he likes to stand in front of the window naked. Oh and Errm there are good reasons to think he's no threat to my wife or me. In my case I'm a foot taller than he is. It may be that he's escalating from flashing to something else but he's due to leave the village soon, so will become someone else's problem if he is one. I don't care about the nudity, other than on the basis of aesthetics. It's the prowling around after midnight I find odd. -- €˘DarWin| _/ _/ |
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Huge wrote:
[snip] There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Sleepwalking? I don't think so. He seems wide awake and in one of the nighttime IR photos he's carrying a torch. There are also a few photos of him fully clothed heading up the garden path from the garage to the back of the house. It can't be burglary because nothing has gone and he's ignoring all the DIY toys in the garage. Until I saw the photos I didn't bother locking them up. Now they are all moved to a lockable tool shed. Braver man than I am. That part of the garden borders a small stream and it's alive with mosquitos and gnats. If I work on the cars down there my head and neck itch like blazes from the bites. -- €˘DarWin| _/ _/ |
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"Mentalguy2k8" wrote in message ...
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... On 24/06/13 11:57, Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "Steve Firth" wrote in message ... Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Sounds funny at first but then you wonder how he knows when you're both not home which adds a rather sinister angle. Obviously he could assume you're at work during normal hours but I doubt he'd be wandering naked around your garden without knowing for sure that neither of you are there. Is he watching you/your cars? Would it be fair to assume that he's also visiting the gardens of other people who might not be as relaxed or secure about it as you are, if they knew? I'd consider reporting it, it may not be the first time he's come to their attention and it sounds like he's either up to something else, or soon will be. Just report him to the police. Mike |
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 12:06:15 +0000, Steve Firth wrote:
Braver man than I am. That part of the garden borders a small stream and it's alive with mosquitos and gnats. If I work on the cars down there my head and neck itch like blazes from the bites. Maybe that's part of the attraction for him... |
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On Mon, 24 Jun 2013 10:25:06 +0000 (UTC), Steve Firth
wrote: I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Sorry - I missed your link to the youtube video... |
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On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote:
Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Hawthorn hedges and a tall locked gate with spikes on. Colin Bignell |
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Steve Firth wrote:
Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Did I mention that I caught (on CCTV) a delivery man creeping behind my shed and having a ****? Bill |
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In article -
september.org, says... Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Should he do something nasty in a couple of months/years - how will you feel? Every time someone is done for rape or murder, you can be sure a neighbour will say "I thought he was a bit odd". There are plenty of examples of men starting out as Peeping Toms, moving onto flashing and then rape/murder. Let the police know - he may be an offender who 'works away' from home. |
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Artic wrote:
Every time someone is done for rape or murder, you can be sure a neighbour will say "I thought he was a bit odd". Or: "he was a quiet chap who kept himself to himself" JGH |
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Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Nobody knows what screws he has loose (or how many), directly ****ing him off might lead to some kind of long-running conflict which nobody needs. Yes, Steve would want to avoid annoying anyone and would never drive nutters to the point of stalking him. Scott |
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On 24/06/2013 19:20, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/13 18:22, wrote: Artic wrote: Every time someone is done for rape or murder, you can be sure a neighbour will say "I thought he was a bit odd". Or: "he was a quiet chap who kept himself to himself" Generally the latter. I worked with a nutter once. a quiet chap who kept himself to himself at the christmas booze up he was discovered jumping up and down on the rooves of all the cars in the car park. He went away in a welter of blue flashing lights and was never seen again. I was at a party once where one of the guests (who lived in a caravan at the back of the house) worked his way round everyone trying to cause an argument and get into a fight. No-one took him up on it, so he smashed up the caravan, threw his microwave out of the window and tried to strangle his dog. He was also in possession of a knife. Last I saw of him was him being put into the back of an ambulance, strapped to a stretcher. SteveW |
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Steve Firth wrote:
Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? It depends on what you want to do. I assume that you want to avoid getting into vindictive nasty behaviour that might have consequences. -- Adam |
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Nightjar wrote:
On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. Are you saying that it is legal to wander around uninvited around a neighbours garden with your tackle out? -- Adam |
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On 24/06/13 19:53, ARW wrote:
Nightjar wrote: On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. Are you saying that it is legal to wander around uninvited around a neighbours garden with your tackle out? I think its a grey area :-) It depends on the intent.. -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 24/06/2013 19:53, ARW wrote:
Nightjar wrote: On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. Are you saying that it is legal to wander around uninvited around a neighbours garden with your tackle out? And Stephen Gough might think you wrong: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...gh-jailed-asbo -- Rod |
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On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote:
Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? Perhaps rather than an infrared flash, a genuine near daylight one might unsettle him sufficiently so as not to come back? |
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"Steve Firth" wrote in message ... "Mentalguy2k8" wrote: Sounds funny at first but then you wonder how he knows when you're both not home which adds a rather sinister angle. Obviously he could assume you're at work during normal hours but I doubt he'd be wandering naked around your garden without knowing for sure that neither of you are there. Is he watching you/your cars? He's in a position to see cars coming and going so, probably. Would it be fair to assume that he's also visiting the gardens of other people who might not be as relaxed or secure about it as you are, if they knew? I'd consider reporting it, it may not be the first time he's come to their attention and it sounds like he's either up to something else, or soon will be. I don't think so, not many houses in the area. We live way out in the sticks and the only access to other houses would be along an "A" road. Our drive is a country lane that he can access without going on the road, no other property has access to it. If he tried to get to other properties he would have to scale a barbed wire fence and cross a waist-high field of stinging nettles and ford the stream. He'd then have access to three or four other properties over a distance of about a mile. However one of those properties is owned by an Ag contractor who keeps large fierce dogs and others keep horses, goats, sheep and geese. Someone, I think it wasTNP, suggested consulting a psychologist. That's easy for me, I could ask my wife who specialised in abnormal (forensic) psychology. However she's in housewife mode at the moment and just shouted "oh the dirty *******" when she saw the pics. She also told me that he has been flashing, sort of. His home has a large patio window and deck and he likes to stand in front of the window naked. Oh and Errm there are good reasons to think he's no threat to my wife or me. In my case I'm a foot taller than he is. It may be that he's escalating from flashing to something else but he's due to leave the village soon, so will become someone else's problem if he is one. I don't care about the nudity, other than on the basis of aesthetics. It's the prowling around after midnight I find odd. So he's watching your comings (no pun) and goings, flashing at his window and walking round your garden naked. I think you need to report everything, for your wife's sake especially (or any woman's, really), as he could well be a little "focused" on her, shall we say. He doesn't sound like a harmless crank to me, and maybe you'll be doing his new neighbours a favour, they might not be as well-equipped to protect themselves as you two are. For all you know, he may well have other offences on his record. Mark my words, if he stays put and nothing is done, your wife will open the curtains one morning and he'll be on the other side of the window pulling his pud, or breaking in and stealing her underwear, or making "silent" phone calls etc. At least if the Police are aware, if the worst does happen and he does something while she's home on her own, she'll be able to get them to respond immediately. It's a bit of a concern what he is up to when you *don't* see him or catch him on film. Looking you up online? Going through your bins? Taking photos through the windows and lining his bedroom with them? Could be almost anything. |
Yet another one for Adam
On 24/06/13 20:04, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
Mark my words, if he stays put and nothing is done, your wife will open the curtains one morning and he'll be on the other side of the window pulling his pud, or breaking in and stealing her underwear, or making "silent" phone calls etc. At least if the Police are aware, if the worst does happen and he does something while she's home on her own, she'll be able to get them to respond immediately. It's a bit of a concern what he is up to when you *don't* see him or catch him on film. Looking you up online? Going through your bins? Taking photos through the windows and lining his bedroom with them? Could be almost anything. ArnoldLayne... -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
Yet another one for Adam
On 24/06/2013 19:59, polygonum wrote:
On 24/06/2013 19:53, ARW wrote: Nightjar wrote: On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. Are you saying that it is legal to wander around uninvited around a neighbours garden with your tackle out? And Stephen Gough might think you wrong: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...gh-jailed-asbo That was for disobeying a Court Order, not for contravention of section 66 of The Sexual Offences Act 2003, although he has been done for that as well. It is the intent that is critical for a s66 offence. Colin Bignell |
Yet another one for Adam
On 24/06/2013 20:26, Nightjar wrote:
That was for disobeying a Court Order, not for contravention of section 66 of The Sexual Offences Act 2003, although he has been done for that as well. It is the intent that is critical for a s66 offence. Colin Bignell Yep - it was the history rather than this instance. -- Rod |
Yet another one for Adam
On 24/06/2013 19:53, ARW wrote:
Nightjar wrote: On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. Are you saying that it is legal to wander around uninvited around a neighbours garden with your tackle out? Being on the land uninvited is trespass, which is a civil offence. Being naked in public is not an offence in England, except when done with the intent to be seen and to cause alarm or distress. As he is appearing at night or when he has reason to believe the property is empty, he could probably succeed with a defence that he was not intending to be seen. Colin Bignell |
Yet another one for Adam
polygonum wrote:
On 24/06/2013 19:53, ARW wrote: Nightjar wrote: On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. Are you saying that it is legal to wander around uninvited around a neighbours garden with your tackle out? And Stephen Gough might think you wrong: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...gh-jailed-asbo Is Steve Firth's garden and garage a public place? -- Adam |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 24/06/13 19:53, ARW wrote: Nightjar wrote: On 24/06/2013 11:25, Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. Not illegal in the UK, unless done with intent that somebody see his genitals and is caused alarm or distress by doing so, which it does not sound to be his intent. Are you saying that it is legal to wander around uninvited around a neighbours garden with your tackle out? I think its a grey area :-) Not on my patch. -- Adam |
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On 2013-06-24 19:10:57 +0000, The Natural Philosopher said:
ArnoldLayne... LOL |
Yet another one for Adam
"Mentalguy2k8" wrote:
[snip] So he's watching your comings (no pun) and goings, flashing at his window and walking round your garden naked. I think you need to report everything, for your wife's sake especially (or any woman's, really), as he could well be a little "focused" on her, shall we say. Err no, that's not possible. -- €˘DarWin| _/ _/ |
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"ARW" wrote:
Steve Firth wrote: Spurred on by Adam's use of CCTV I have installed my own cameras. Less hi tech, I have put several trail cams with PIR sensors and infra-red flash around the garden and garage. Mostly I was interested in watching the activity of the barn owl that lives in the garage and to keep an eye out for people mistaking our drive for a public ROW (this happens a lot). I was paging through 800 odd photos from this month and found that a man visits my garden when I am not in or when I am asleep. He has been clicked several times either on days when both my wife and I are out or between midnight and 1AM. There's only one odd thing, he's stark naked except for a baseball cap. I recognise his face (the rest of it was an unknown) he lives in the area. Polite word or posters nailed to telephone poles? It depends on what you want to do. I assume that you want to avoid getting into vindictive nasty behaviour that might have consequences. Most of it is I don't want to victimise the bloke in question. Our local PC is looking for any excuse to make his life hell. This is because the PC is a **** more than anything else. I don't have much concern about the bloke in question getting angry, he's tiny and weak and as I can now tell from the photos very flabby. -- €˘DarWin| _/ _/ |
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On 24/06/2013 20:31, ARW wrote:
Is Steve Firth's garden and garage a public place? Given the cameras rather more public than the kind of place I'd walk around naked. Report him. He's obviously loopy, and may become a danger to himslef or others. ANdy |
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september.org, says... I don't have much concern about the bloke in question getting angry, he's tiny and weak and as I can now tell from the photos very flabby. The weakest of men is stronger than any woman. |
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