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I now have an electric car.
A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. |
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On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:37:18 AM UTC, harry wrote:
I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. Has it got solar panels on the roof ? Simon. |
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On 06/02/2013 10:37, harry wrote:
I now have an electric car. what make/model? A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On 6 Feb, 12:10, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:37:18 AM UTC, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. Has it got solar panels on the roof ? Simon. and pedals? Jim K |
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On 06/02/2013 10:37, harry wrote:
I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. So, from flat battery state, how long to recharge to full using your solar generation alone? It would be interesting to know the answer by, say, season. Approximations and averages accepted. What range would that give you? How do you heat it in winter? -- Rod |
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..com, harry writes I now have an electric car. A second hand Sinclair C5? -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 6 Feb, 13:43, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article .com, harry writes I now have an electric car. A second hand Sinclair C5? 'second' ?!?! possibly ex "Time Team Big Disappointing Dig" ? ;) presumably now "running" aldidl NiMh batteries for extra eco bollox points? Jim K |
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"harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. |
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On 6 Feb, 14:32, "Mentalguy2k8" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. nah just pedal faster Mrs H, "fx whipcrack" Jim K |
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Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. Even when the battery's flat? -- *Some days we are the flies; some days we are the windscreen.* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. Even when the battery's flat? Ah, a design flaw. |
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"Jim K" wrote in message ... On 6 Feb, 14:32, "Mentalguy2k8" wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. nah just pedal faster Mrs H, "fx whipcrack" ha! |
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On 06/02/2013 14:44, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. Even when the battery's flat? Ah, a design flaw. Maybe not. At least some electric vehicles require diesel or other "fossil" fuel to run their heaters. So they might work with flat battery. -- Rod |
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 02:37:18 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote: I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. Oil filled? G.Harman |
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 02:37:18 -0800, harry wrote:
I now have an electric car. Why am I not surprised. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 13:43:49 +0000, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article .com, harry writes I now have an electric car. A second hand Sinclair C5? http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B004P9SKKE -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org My posts (including this one) are my copyright and if @diy_forums on Twitter wish to tweet them they can pay me £30 a post *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 06/02/13 14:32, Mentalguy2k8 wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. Harry: are you sure its an electric car, and the salesman didn't simply see you coming and sell you a hybrid? -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On Feb 6, 12:10*pm, sm_jamieson wrote:
On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:37:18 AM UTC, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. Has it got solar panels on the roof ? Simon. The solar panels are on my house roof. |
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On Feb 6, 12:30*pm, John Rumm wrote:
On 06/02/2013 10:37, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. what make/model? A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_i-MiEV |
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On Feb 6, 1:15*pm, polygonum wrote:
On 06/02/2013 10:37, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. So, from flat battery state, how long to recharge to full using your solar generation alone? It would be interesting to know the answer by, say, season. Approximations and averages accepted. What range would that give you? How do you heat it in winter? -- Rod From completely discharged it takes around eight hours from a domestic socket. Or 20minutes from a fast chargesocket to 80% full. The charge rate is 2Kw. (for all but the last half hour. I drove about 20 miles yesterday, it took about 2 hours to recharge. It was sunny today, soI charged it completely from solar power. The panels were doing almost fulloutput because it was sunny cold and windy. Won't be possible all the time but I don't have to recharge straight away, I can sometimes wait 'til the sun shines. The max range is 83 miles,Depends on how hilly & how fast your drive. Also how you adjust the regeneration. |
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On Feb 6, 1:43*pm, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
In article .com, harry writes I now have an electric car. A second hand Sinclair C5? Well it was second hand. Ex-demo car. It had done 156 miles. I got it £6000 cheaper than new. There is a £5000 gov subsidy. I mention this to annoy TurNiP |
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On Feb 6, 2:05*pm, Jim K wrote:
On 6 Feb, 13:43, Mike Tomlinson wrote: In article .com, harry writes I now have an electric car. A second hand Sinclair C5? 'second' ?!?! possibly ex "Time Team Big Disappointing Dig" ? ;) presumably now "running" aldidl NiMh batteries for extra eco bollox No lithium ion. Near half a ton of battery weight. |
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What for?
Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. |
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Or a wind turbine?
Brian -- Brian Gaff....Note, this account does not accept Bcc: email. graphics are great, but the blind can't hear them Email: __________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ __________ "sm_jamieson" wrote in message ... On Wednesday, February 6, 2013 10:37:18 AM UTC, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. Has it got solar panels on the roof ? Simon. |
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:44:14 -0800, harry wrote:
I now have an electric car. what make/model? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_i-MiEV Riiight. Last UK new price for a petrol-powered Mitsu i was less than £10k when it was dropped in 2009. A new i-MiEV is north of £30k. That difference is one hell of a lot of petrol. At the official 54mpg, and £1.35/litre, it's about 180,000 miles worth of petrol. Assuming you get the electricity free, of course. |
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On Feb 6, 2:32*pm, "Mentalguy2k8" wrote:
"harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. The radiator is to cool the electric traction motor/generator. It is liquid cooled. The heating is a separate wet system, heated by resistance elements from the traction battery. Just lifted from a normal car I think So I still need antifreeze. Two places to put it in. I did think the heating would be by reversing the AC system, but no. You can preheat the car before you set off while it's still on charge. There is a remote control to do this. It is all insulated up. |
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:53:53 -0800, harry wrote:
Well it was second hand. Ex-demo car. It had done 156 miles. I got it £6000 cheaper than new. There is a £5000 gov subsidy. I mention this to annoy TurNiP Ah, OK. So effectively you only paid £20k for a car that, in petrol form, was £10k new before being discontinued four years ago. So that's a difference in price that equals 90,000 miles worth of petrol. |
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:54:47 -0800, harry wrote:
Near half a ton of battery weight. In a car that, in petrol form, weighs 900kg ready-to-go. |
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On Feb 6, 2:39*pm, "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article , * *Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. Even when the battery's flat? There are two batteries,the traction battery, 370Volts and a 12 volt one to power the accessories. When the traction batterie's flat your f***d. |
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On Feb 6, 3:38*pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: On 06/02/13 14:32, Mentalguy2k8 wrote: "harry" wrote in message ... I now have an electric car. A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. At least you've got something to keep you warm when you're waiting for the AA. Harry: are you sure its an electric car, and the salesman didn't simply see you coming and sell you a hybrid? I have done my research. Just hope it doesn't break down. You'd never believe how complex it all is. The main bit is straightforward but there are lots of ancillories. There are around twenty separate eleccric motors dotted around for one thing or another. Numerous interlocks. About twenty warning lights on the dashboard. Very easy to drive though. Very nice to drive. |
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On Feb 6, 4:58*pm, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:44:14 -0800, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. what make/model? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_i-MiEV Riiight. Last UK new price for a petrol-powered Mitsu i was less than £10k when it was dropped in 2009. A new i-MiEV is north of £30k. That difference is one hell of a lot of petrol. At the official 54mpg, and £1.35/litre, it's about 180,000 miles worth of petrol. Assuming you get the electricity free, of course. You are quite right about the economics. Toys for the boys syndrome. Excellent toy. You can sneak up on people. But i suspect petrol will double in four or five years, |
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On Feb 6, 5:01*pm, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:53:53 -0800, harry wrote: Well it was second hand. Ex-demo car. It had done 156 miles. I got it £6000 cheaper than new. There is a £5000 gov subsidy. I mention this to annoy TurNiP Ah, OK. So effectively you only paid £20k for a car that, in petrol form, was £10k new before being discontinued four years ago. So that's a difference in price that equals 90,000 miles worth of petrol. At todays petrol prices. Also no road tax. For now anyway. Insurance about the same as a normal car. |
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On Feb 6, 5:01*pm, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:54:47 -0800, harry wrote: Near half a ton of battery weight. In a car that, in petrol form, weighs 900kg ready-to-go. Weighs more in electric form. But much better performance. |
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 09:13:49 -0800, harry wrote:
Also no road tax. A saving of a whole £30/year over the petrol version. |
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En el artículo
groups.com, harry escribió: No lithium ion. Oh, like the ones that have grounded 787 Dreamliners the world over? -- (\_/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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On 06/02/2013 17:47, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo groups.com, harry escribió: No lithium ion. Oh, like the ones that have grounded 787 Dreamliners the world over? Also, IIRC, made by Yuasa. -- Rod |
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On 06/02/13 16:44, harry wrote:
On Feb 6, 12:30 pm, John Rumm wrote: On 06/02/2013 10:37, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. what make/model? A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_i-MiEV They *did* see you coming then -- Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. |
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On 6 Feb, 18:33, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 06/02/13 16:44, harry wrote: On Feb 6, 12:30 pm, John Rumm wrote: On 06/02/2013 10:37, harry wrote: I now have an electric car. what make/model? A lot of unexpected things about it when you read the book. Eg, it has a radiator. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_i-MiEV They *did* see you coming then launched snip on April 1, 2010, for the wider public mmmm Jim K. |
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On 6 Feb, 17:14, harry wrote:
On Feb 6, 5:01*pm, Adrian wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:54:47 -0800, harry wrote: Near half a ton of battery weight. In a car that, in petrol form, weighs 900kg ready-to-go. Weighs more in electric form. But much better performance. 0-60 mph: petrol 14.9 Seconds elec 11.9 seconds (oh & range of 80miles when driven by Sister Dora) Sunsational.. at least you don't get paid as much when you charge it with your lovely big solar peniles...when it's sunny.. Jim K |
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:13:49 -0800 (PST), harry
wrote: On Feb 6, 5:01*pm, Adrian wrote: On Wed, 06 Feb 2013 08:53:53 -0800, harry wrote: Well it was second hand. Ex-demo car. It had done 156 miles. I got it £6000 cheaper than new. There is a £5000 gov subsidy. I mention this to annoy TurNiP Ah, OK. So effectively you only paid £20k for a car that, in petrol form, was £10k new before being discontinued four years ago. So that's a difference in price that equals 90,000 miles worth of petrol. At todays petrol prices. Also no road tax. For now anyway. Insurance about the same as a normal car. And the person you hit doesn't hear you coming, so it's more humane. |
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