As somone has already posted an off topic about email issues, here is
another one I'd like to solve. Sure I could just keep dumping the offenders
into spam and hope the google system virgin use learns, or I could, well
read on..


One of my accounts seems to have got itself on a list which possibly genuine
Chinese companies use to sell their products overseas. Looking at this
little collection, I guess I could email some of them andask them to remove
me from the list. About half of them are now getting through the Virgin
filters into the inbox of said account.
Any ideas?
Maybe I should offer to rewrite their sales pitches in real English!
See below if you chuckle at strange English. Some are not bad, but others,
well..

Brian
Dear Sir/Madam,

Good day! We got your email address from search engines.
We are a professional manufacturer of golf trolley and electric & gas
powered golf cars in China in the past years.
Thanks to the rich technical personnel, advanced R&D capacity, abundant
capital and employee's innovating spirit, we keep developing many novel,
fashionable, specific and dignified models which are highly evaluated by the
customers home and abroad for their quality, reasonable price and after-sale
service.
Hereby we wish to you draw your kind attention to the fact we are to highly
appreciate your assistance and keenly look forward to entering into business
relationship with you in the long run. Any of your efforts you exert to our
company will be reciprocated due in the forthcoming future.

Please contact us if you need details of our products.

Best regards,
Miss jane
YONGKANG JINGHANG INDUSTRY
CHANGCHENG INDUSTRIAL ZONE, YONGKANG,
ZHEJIANG, CHINA
Email:


Dear Sir or Madam:

We are glad to know you are in market for aluminum radiator ..

We are professional manufacture in aluminum radiator and iron radiator . As
you know An understanding of one more chance ,Hope we have chance to know
each other .
Sincerely,

Alisa
Dosan Industry Co,Ltd
Tel:0086-579-87430762 86-18042583019
Email:
Msn:
Dear Parter,
I am Glad to contact with you.
We are professional manufacture and supplier of woodworking
machinery,including the MDF production line,Particle board production line
and OSB machinery.Edge banding machinery,CNC machines,laminating
machinery.and sanding machines.
The most is we produce the no glue panel production line,that is our board
from our machinery don't have any formaldehyde.it is advanced technology and
innovation in this field.we don't use the urea-formaldehyde or MDI glue.we
use no glue adhesive.it can save 30%-50% chemical cost than
urea-formaldehyde glue technology.
In wood board making field.not only we can use the wood as the raw
materials,our equipment can use the wheat straw.cotton straw or other crop
straw as the raw materials to produce the MDF or PARTICLE BOARD.
We use the single layer hotpress machines or continuous flat press machines
to produce the MDF or PARTICLE BOARD.
If you need the sanding machinery,melamine hotpress machines,or MDF,PARTICLE
BOARD PRODUCTION LINE,please reply my email.I must send you more files and
give you competitive price.
After we cooperate,we teach you all technology and good afer selling
service.
Hope we build good and long-term cooperation.
Look forward to your early reply.
Warmer Regards,
Becky
Export department Manager
Weifang dening industry
Mail:
Skype: Beckybecky666999999
Tel/Fax: 0086 0536 2155702

Dear Sir or Madam,

Wealth Land Electronics Co.,Ltd here.

We specialize in electronic devices field with full experience and we have
100 % confidence in our technology and quality.

Now our hot seller is anti-lost machine for iPhone and iPad . Anti-lost
machine is a little guy with the bluetooth fuction can fit for iPhone and
iPad . It can connect with the phone by bluetooth , and when the phone is
out of the setting distance from the anti-lost machine (You can set the
distance by yourself) . Both the machine and the phone will alarm . And you
can find the phone quickly . The size of anti-lost machine is just like a
cion , very easy taken and cute look .

If any interest, feel free to contact me.

Best regards,

Cherry
Senior Sales Rep.
WEALTH LAND ELECTRONIC LIMITED

Dear firiend:
A good day to you~~
This is Sandy from China that we are experienced manufacturer for natural
handmade woven baskets, including gift basket ,wicker basket, garden basket,
laundry basket ect.
If you have any purchasing plan in this area, please dont hesitate to
contact us for more information. Look forward a chance to work with you
Thank you for your time !~
Best regards
Sandy



Focus Innovation Gifts Company is a Leading Company in leather gifts
products.
Wedding Photo album box/ case are main leather products we strong
recommend.
Photo frame also it is one of our lines!
Pls see below for some designs for photo album and fame.

Below are our advantage:
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Warmly Tips: Our MOQ is 500pcs/ item, if you are looking for a
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Wish we would be your good and reliable partner in China!
Thanks for your choice!
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Dear Friend,
Wish you have a good day!
We are the professional manufacturer and supplier ofcalcium chloridein
China. We export large quantity to USA and Middle East countries,deal to
high quality and reasonable price?
Pls check the detailed information as follows,hope it will workable for your
market:
1?Grade:industry and food
2?Model:74%, 77%, 94%, 95% calcium chloride
3?Shapeowder, granule, flake, prill
4?Packing: 25 Kg PP Bags /1MT Jumbo Bags
Others, we can also offermagnesium chloride, calcium bromide ,sodium
bromide, sodium bicarbonate ,caustic soda and xanthan gum.
Any interest, pls feel free to contact me. Hope to establish business with
you.


Best regards



Sally OU
CRE CHEM (QINGDAO)LIMITED
ADD: No. 19 Sunshine New Road, Jinan ,China
Tel: +86-531-69904166
Fax: +86-531-69904166
E-mail:

Website: www.crecompany.com

Dear Sir or Madam,

We are factory specializing in the manufacture and export of wall clock. We
have profuse designs with series quality grade.

we develop new designs nearly( pls check attach picture big new wall clock)
for your market, If you have interest in it, it`s my pleasure to offer news
to you regular.

Best regard
Mr.Taylor Lynn

ZHANGZHOU ELECTRON CO. LTD.
Add:Zhangzhou city ,Fujian,China






Dear Manager:
We are Manufacture enterprise for Oiless Air Compressor,Dental Chair,
Portable Dental Unit,Handpiece, Disposables, Curing Light, Polisher ,X-ray
Machine,Quick Steam Sterilizer ,Wheel-chair ,etc,Most of items has CE
certificates.
If any questions kindly contact me.
Thanks and Best regards
Kelly Mo
Sales supervisor




--
Contact ; Kelly Mo (Sales supervisor)
Mob; +86 13535714308
Compay;FoShan Partner wheel-chair Co., Ltd.
Tel: +86 757 82800636
Fax:+86 757 88582182
E-mail:


neteasefooter

Dear Sirs,
Good day.
This is Susie from Gold Ox International Industrial Co., Ltd. Our company
mainly produces Wire, Wire Mesh and Nails with high qualitry. Our products
are as follows:
Galvanized wire
Razor barbed wire
Stainless steel wire mesh
Welded wire mesh
Chain link fence
Common nails
Concrete nails
Coil nails
Roofing nails
Paper strip nails
Hexagonal wire netting
Perforated metal mesh
Expanded metal mesh
Fiberglass mesh
Steel grating
We also make products according to customers" requirments.
Sincerely hope that we have a chance to cooperate with you. Please contact
us freely if you are interested in our products.
Best regards,
Susie
Gold Ox International Industrial Co.,limited
Add: Room 302, HainaModernCity, Beijing road, Rizhao, China



Tel: 86-633-3691680
Fax: 86-633-8017391

Skype:guanda998




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Good day!
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exporter and manufactuer handling LCD, LED TV and DVB in Zhuhai city, China.
Based on strongly production, high quality and more 6 years experience of
exporting, we got a high confirmation from more than hundreds clients all
over the world. We are always expecting the long business cooperation with
you.
For our more information, kindly visit website www.everark.com to view our
products.
If you have any interest or question, pls feel free and mail me. or if you
have any idea, also can let me know.
Awaiting your good news,we are.
PS:AJSC will stop in next 3 months, to open AJSC channels only can buy AJSC
card, or can use our receiver to open IPTV.

MsCoral
sales
Dear Sir or Madam,
YASEN video conference camera brings you face to face feeling. We supply
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Quality: The video conference camera was composite by zoom module and dome
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enjoy good reputation from our clients.

Price: How to find cost-effective products?
YASEN quality is compared with 95% SONY. But you only need to pay less than
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to the dealer.

Service: Professional, Fast, Effective, Integrity.

Warranty: All products warranty is 2 year. We will repair defective
products without charge during the period.
Have a nice day!
Best regards,
Mary

-----

Digital Technology Co.,Ltd

Address: 7F, Building 28, XiLi Town, Nanshan District, ShenZhen, China



Dear Sir or Madam,

We are factory specializing in the manufacture and export of wall clock. We
have profuse designs with series quality grade.

we develop new designs nearly( pls check attach picture big new wall clock)
for your market, If you have interest in it, it`s my pleasure to offer news
to you regular.

Best regard
Mr.Taylor Lynn

ZHANGZHOU ELECTRON CO. LTD.
Add:Zhangzhou city ,Fujian,China

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--
From the Bed of Brian Gaff.
The email is valid as
Blind user.

On Sunday 13 January 2013 11:40 Brian Gaff wrote in uk.d-i-y:

As somone has already posted an off topic about email issues, here is
another one I'd like to solve. Sure I could just keep dumping the
offenders into spam and hope the google system virgin use learns, or I
could, well read on..


One of my accounts seems to have got itself on a list which possibly
genuine Chinese companies use to sell their products overseas. Looking at
this little collection, I guess I could email some of them andask them to
remove me from the list. About half of them are now getting through the
Virgin filters into the inbox of said account.
Any ideas?
Maybe I should offer to rewrite their sales pitches in real English!
See below if you chuckle at strange English. Some are not bad, but others,
well..

Brian
Dear Sir/Madam,

Good day! We got your email address from search engines.
We are a professional manufacturer of golf trolley and electric & gas
powered golf cars in China in the past years.
Thanks to the rich technical personnel, advanced R&D capacity, abundant
capital and employee's innovating spirit, we keep developing many novel,
fashionable, specific and dignified models which are highly evaluated by
the customers home and abroad for their quality, reasonable price and
after-sale service.
Hereby we wish to you draw your kind attention to the fact we are to
highly appreciate your assistance and keenly look forward to entering into
business relationship with you in the long run. Any of your efforts you
exert to our company will be reciprocated due in the forthcoming future.

Please contact us if you need details of our products.

Best regards,
Miss jane
YONGKANG JINGHANG INDUSTRY
CHANGCHENG INDUSTRIAL ZONE, YONGKANG,
ZHEJIANG, CHINA
Email:


Put an email filter in that bounces them all back to ?

I bet the will stop soon enough.

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On 13/01/2013 11:40, Brian Gaff wrote:
As somone has already posted an off topic about email issues, here is
another one I'd like to solve. Sure I could just keep dumping the offenders
into spam and hope the google system virgin use learns, or I could, well
read on..

One of my accounts seems to have got itself on a list which possibly genuine
Chinese companies use to sell their products overseas. Looking at this
little collection, I guess I could email some of them andask them to remove
me from the list. About half of them are now getting through the Virgin
filters into the inbox of said account.
Any ideas?

Block them based on this ISPs IP address range. They are Chinese
spammers. You can kill 80% of them with a handful of spam havens.

sina.com, hinet.com. 126.com for instance

More difficult if you have genuine communications with Chinese
companies. The easiest thing is to bounce everything to that address
that is not on a white list of allowed senders.

Email:

Email:
Msn:
Mail:
Skype: Beckybecky666999999
Tel/Fax: 0086 0536 2155702


E-mail:

E-mail:


Skype:guanda998

MSN:

Skype:
henrylihk

Distilled down to email addresses only.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:40:10 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

One of my accounts seems to have got itself on a list which possibly genuine
Chinese companies use to sell their products overseas. Looking at this
little collection, I guess I could email some of them andask them to remove
me from the list. About half of them are now getting through the Virgin
filters into the inbox of said account.
Any ideas?

A few years ago I used my regular email address to register with
alibaba, and since then I've had the occasional spam from Chinese
companies.
However, I've found that spam binning them with gmail's own spam
reporting tool works incredibly well and who knows how many others
have been blanked since then. The very odd new one pops up and gets
the same treatment and it's peace again for a couple of months.

Google mail - it just works; you can also redirect your mail through
your gmail account and take advantage of their spam filters, which are
unsurpassed anywhere else I've tried.

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

Google mail - it just works; you can also redirect your mail through
your gmail account and take advantage of their spam filters, which are
unsurpassed anywhere else I've tried.

I only use gmail for mailing-list memberships, I agree that they let
very little spam through, but I find that 75% of the stuff that does
end-up in the spam bin is genuine list content.

I am on virgin which is just rebranded gmail of course. I cannot fathom the
webmail part but it seems if you go on via imap you can get to the folders
and if you move stuff into where it belongs then it seems to remember. the
snag though is that increasingly, legitimate email list or email from
organisations I actually want to get mail from have their messages gthrown
into the spam bin and moving stuff the other way seems not to be so
efficient on the rememberd front, hence my question.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Andy Burns" wrote in message
o.uk...
Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

Google mail - it just works; you can also redirect your mail through
your gmail account and take advantage of their spam filters, which are
unsurpassed anywhere else I've tried.

I only use gmail for mailing-list memberships, I agree that they let very
little spam through, but I find that 75% of the stuff that does end-up in
the spam bin is genuine list content.

Brian Gaff wrote:

I am on virgin which is just rebranded gmail of course. I cannot fathom the
webmail part but it seems if you go on via imap you can get to the folders

I've only used IMAP with gmail to import/export mail between it and
other systems, it doesn't have folders as such, just tags, and each
email can have many tags, so effectively be in many folders at once.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:31:13 +0000, Andy Burns
wrote:

I only use gmail for mailing-list memberships, I agree that they let
very little spam through, but I find that 75% of the stuff that does
end-up in the spam bin is genuine list content.

Well, if you have people on your mailing list with
as their addresses, then that's a problem.

On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 08:25:54 +0000, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

------------8
However, I've found that spam binning them with gmail's own spam
reporting tool works incredibly well and who knows how many others
have been blanked since then. The very odd new one pops up and gets
the same treatment and it's peace again for a couple of months.

Google mail - it just works; you can also redirect your mail through
your gmail account and take advantage of their spam filters, which are
unsurpassed anywhere else I've tried.

+1

I used to manage all that myself using POPFile (an excellent tool that
gives extremely good results once tuned up). For the last several
years I've forwarded all my domain mail to a Gmail account and relied
on their spam filtering. As near flawless as makes little difference.

In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Sun, 13 Jan 2013 11:40:10 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

One of my accounts seems to have got itself on a list which possibly genuine
Chinese companies use to sell their products overseas. Looking at this
little collection, I guess I could email some of them andask them to remove
me from the list. About half of them are now getting through the Virgin
filters into the inbox of said account.
Any ideas?

A few years ago I used my regular email address to register with
alibaba, and since then I've had the occasional spam from Chinese
companies.
However, I've found that spam binning them with gmail's own spam
reporting tool works incredibly well and who knows how many others
have been blanked since then. The very odd new one pops up and gets
the same treatment and it's peace again for a couple of months.

Google mail - it just works; you can also redirect your mail through
your gmail account and take advantage of their spam filters, which are
unsurpassed anywhere else I've tried.
With BTYahoo you can mark an e-mail as Spam and any in future are
automatically binned, The reverse process is also available
--
bert

On 1/14/2013 1:47 PM, bert wrote:

With BTYahoo you can mark an e-mail as Spam and any in future are
automatically binned, The reverse process is also available

That's how it's _supposed_ to work.

Recently, BTYahoo have been dumping lots of my mail into the junk
folder. I mark it as not spam, it goes into my inbox - and the same
thing happens the next day. Over and over. It doesn't appear to be
learning.
I prefer to access all my mail with Thunderbird, rather than use the
website, but the stuff in the junk folder only appears on the website,
so I have to keep checking mail there.

Annoying.

In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 1/14/2013 1:47 PM, bert wrote:

With BTYahoo you can mark an e-mail as Spam and any in future are
automatically binned, The reverse process is also available

That's how it's _supposed_ to work.

Recently, BTYahoo have been dumping lots of my mail into the junk
folder. I mark it as not spam, it goes into my inbox - and the same
thing happens the next day. Over and over. It doesn't appear to be
learning.
I prefer to access all my mail with Thunderbird, rather than use the
website, but the stuff in the junk folder only appears on the website,
so I have to keep checking mail there.

Annoying.
Yes I use a POP3 e-mail client. Much easier especially as I have 4
sub-accounts and it collect them all for me and sorts them into
different user names/folders.
But I must admit today I too was surprised to find one or two e-mails in
the Spam folder which I am sure I have previously corrected. Must keep
an eye on it.
Still it's a lot better than my previous ISP Demon who have just
introduced a new e-mail system based on MS Exchange and judging by the
comments in demon.service is pretty chaotic,
--
bert

bert wrote:
In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 1/14/2013 1:47 PM, bert wrote:

With BTYahoo you can mark an e-mail as Spam and any in future are
automatically binned, The reverse process is also available

That's how it's _supposed_ to work.

Recently, BTYahoo have been dumping lots of my mail into the junk
folder. I mark it as not spam, it goes into my inbox - and the same
thing happens the next day. Over and over. It doesn't appear to be
learning.
I prefer to access all my mail with Thunderbird, rather than use the
website, but the stuff in the junk folder only appears on the website,
so I have to keep checking mail there.

Annoying.
Yes I use a POP3 e-mail client. Much easier especially as I have 4
sub-accounts and it collect them all for me and sorts them into
different user names/folders.
But I must admit today I too was surprised to find one or two e-mails in
the Spam folder which I am sure I have previously corrected. Must keep
an eye on it.

The BT spam filter uses info from all users to decide what's spam and
what isn't. Even if you're clearing it, other users' preferences can
override the system, according to the way I read their blurb when I
first started with them a decade ago. I very rarely have stuff
incorrectly put into the spam bin.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 1/15/2013 2:12 PM, John Williamson wrote:

The BT spam filter uses info from all users to decide what's spam and
what isn't. Even if you're clearing it, other users' preferences can
override the system, according to the way I read their blurb when I
first started with them a decade ago. I very rarely have stuff
incorrectly put into the spam bin.

I can (just barely) tolerate non-spam being repeatedly dumped into the
spam filter - what really irritates the h*** out of me, is when messages
silently disappear, without even making it as far as the spam filter.
That happened with my mail from AmEx - I only found out about when
checking the AmEx website at bill-paying time. There were some others
that I know of - but who knows what else may have gone missing?

S Viemeister wrote:
On 1/15/2013 2:12 PM, John Williamson wrote:

The BT spam filter uses info from all users to decide what's spam and
what isn't. Even if you're clearing it, other users' preferences can
override the system, according to the way I read their blurb when I
first started with them a decade ago. I very rarely have stuff
incorrectly put into the spam bin.

I can (just barely) tolerate non-spam being repeatedly dumped into the
spam filter - what really irritates the h*** out of me, is when messages
silently disappear, without even making it as far as the spam filter.
That happened with my mail from AmEx - I only found out about when
checking the AmEx website at bill-paying time. There were some others
that I know of - but who knows what else may have gone missing?

I've had a couple bounced from some servers to my address, but the
sender has always had a notification and contacted me via my other
address. I've also had stuff from my BT mailbox to other servers
bounced, but it's no worse than my other server.

When I investigated, it turned out to be a blacklisting by BT of the
servers or vice versa due to excessive spam being sent from them.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 15/01/13 19:48, S Viemeister wrote:
On 1/15/2013 2:12 PM, John Williamson wrote:

The BT spam filter uses info from all users to decide what's spam and
what isn't. Even if you're clearing it, other users' preferences can
override the system, according to the way I read their blurb when I
first started with them a decade ago. I very rarely have stuff
incorrectly put into the spam bin.

I can (just barely) tolerate non-spam being repeatedly dumped into the
spam filter - what really irritates the h*** out of me, is when messages
silently disappear, without even making it as far as the spam filter.
That happened with my mail from AmEx - I only found out about when
checking the AmEx website at bill-paying time. There were some others
that I know of - but who knows what else may have gone missing?

well yes.

I know if I care, what emails my server rejects.


Essentially those for unknown people in my domains, and from IP
addresses registered as spambots with spamhaus.



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(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 1/15/2013 3:01 PM, John Williamson wrote:
S Viemeister wrote:
On 1/15/2013 2:12 PM, John Williamson wrote:

The BT spam filter uses info from all users to decide what's spam and
what isn't. Even if you're clearing it, other users' preferences can
override the system, according to the way I read their blurb when I
first started with them a decade ago. I very rarely have stuff
incorrectly put into the spam bin.

I can (just barely) tolerate non-spam being repeatedly dumped into the
spam filter - what really irritates the h*** out of me, is when
messages silently disappear, without even making it as far as the spam
filter. That happened with my mail from AmEx - I only found out about
when checking the AmEx website at bill-paying time. There were some
others that I know of - but who knows what else may have gone missing?

I've had a couple bounced from some servers to my address, but the
sender has always had a notification and contacted me via my other
address. I've also had stuff from my BT mailbox to other servers
bounced, but it's no worse than my other server.

When I investigated, it turned out to be a blacklisting by BT of the
servers or vice versa due to excessive spam being sent from them.

And this is why I maintain more than one account!

In message , John Williamson
writes
bert wrote:
In message , S Viemeister
writes
On 1/14/2013 1:47 PM, bert wrote:

With BTYahoo you can mark an e-mail as Spam and any in future are
automatically binned, The reverse process is also available

That's how it's _supposed_ to work.

Recently, BTYahoo have been dumping lots of my mail into the junk
folder. I mark it as not spam, it goes into my inbox - and the same
thing happens the next day. Over and over. It doesn't appear to be
learning.
I prefer to access all my mail with Thunderbird, rather than use the
website, but the stuff in the junk folder only appears on the
website, so I have to keep checking mail there.

Annoying.
Yes I use a POP3 e-mail client. Much easier especially as I have 4
sub-accounts and it collect them all for me and sorts them into
different user names/folders.
But I must admit today I too was surprised to find one or two e-mails
in the Spam folder which I am sure I have previously corrected. Must
keep an eye on it.

The BT spam filter uses info from all users to decide what's spam and
what isn't. Even if you're clearing it, other users' preferences can
override the system, according to the way I read their blurb when I
first started with them a decade ago. I very rarely have stuff
incorrectly put into the spam bin.

I think it's changed just a little bit since then.
--
bert