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OT Dealing with cold callers
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OT Dealing with cold callers
On 27/10/2012 22:04, Hugh - in either England or Spain wrote:
http://news.sky.com/story/1003497/vi...aller-to-court Amazing coincidence - the chap did this by using telephone recording kit - and "Mr Herman, who works in the telephone industry selling call-recording equipment, said his action was a last resort after asking the Information Commissioner and the Telephone Preference Service for help." Of course, he has no interest in getting this story propagated, does he? In that sense, is his spammy story much better than the spamming gits he complained at? Maybe I am wrong - but certainly has a whiff... -- Rod |
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On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:18:00 +0100, polygonum
wrote: On 27/10/2012 22:04, Hugh - in either England or Spain wrote: http://news.sky.com/story/1003497/vi...aller-to-court Amazing coincidence - the chap did this by using telephone recording kit - and "Mr Herman, who works in the telephone industry selling call-recording equipment, said his action was a last resort after asking the Information Commissioner and the Telephone Preference Service for help." Of course, he has no interest in getting this story propagated, does he? In that sense, is his spammy story much better than the spamming gits he complained at? Maybe I am wrong - but certainly has a whiff... I agree about his agenda and probable motivation, but to correlate his story being published in the press and on TV with a cold calling operation is a strange way of looking at it. -- Graham. %Profound_observation% |
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On 28/10/2012 00:09, Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:18:00 +0100, polygonum wrote: On 27/10/2012 22:04, Hugh - in either England or Spain wrote: http://news.sky.com/story/1003497/vi...aller-to-court Amazing coincidence - the chap did this by using telephone recording kit - and "Mr Herman, who works in the telephone industry selling call-recording equipment, said his action was a last resort after asking the Information Commissioner and the Telephone Preference Service for help." Of course, he has no interest in getting this story propagated, does he? In that sense, is his spammy story much better than the spamming gits he complained at? Maybe I am wrong - but certainly has a whiff... I agree about his agenda and probable motivation, but to correlate his story being published in the press and on TV with a cold calling operation is a strange way of looking at it. The guy obviously has an agenda but it shows it can be done - if you can identify the entity at the other end of the line and they have any money |
OT Dealing with cold callers
In message , Hugh - in either England or
Spain writes On 28/10/2012 00:09, Graham. wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:18:00 +0100, polygonum wrote: On 27/10/2012 22:04, Hugh - in either England or Spain wrote: http://news.sky.com/story/1003497/vi...ook-cold-calle r-to-court Amazing coincidence - the chap did this by using telephone recording kit - and "Mr Herman, who works in the telephone industry selling call-recording equipment, said his action was a last resort after asking the Information Commissioner and the Telephone Preference Service for help." Of course, he has no interest in getting this story propagated, does he? In that sense, is his spammy story much better than the spamming gits he complained at? Maybe I am wrong - but certainly has a whiff... I agree about his agenda and probable motivation, but to correlate his story being published in the press and on TV with a cold calling operation is a strange way of looking at it. The guy obviously has an agenda but it shows it can be done - if you can identify the entity at the other end of the line and they have any money I heard him interviewed on radio and he admitted that the publicity might be good for his business (my words). Perhaps the future is brr,,, brr,, hello..... background hubbub of call centre voices... is that Mr. ???? Just a moment while I switch on the recorder...click:-) -- Tim Lamb |
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On 27/10/2012 23:09, Graham. wrote:
I agree about his agenda and probable motivation, but to correlate his story being published in the press and on TV with a cold calling operation is a strange way of looking at it. The aim of spam is to enter your mind for commercial ends disguised as something else. That is, not "honest" advertising. Obviously not as directly intrusive as direct cold calling - but manipulating a supine fourth estate to get your selling message across seems to be very much down that road. Sure, spam started off being restricted to email and postings - or something like that. But the word has gained legs and it seems perfectly reasonable to extend it to news media and stories like this. -- Rod |
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Good luck to him. I don't care what is motivation is. Spam is intrusive, expensive, and unavoidable. Anti-spammers are welcome to use methods that cost me nothing, are non-intrusive, and avoidable. When their methods reach the level of shampoo adverts and product placement in films, then perhaps they'll irritate me.
Right now, I'm glad he did and will welcome another story like that. |
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On 27/10/2012 23:09, Graham. wrote:
On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:18:00 +0100, wrote: On 27/10/2012 22:04, Hugh - in either England or Spain wrote: http://news.sky.com/story/1003497/vi...aller-to-court Amazing coincidence - the chap did this by using telephone recording kit - and "Mr Herman, who works in the telephone industry selling call-recording equipment, said his action was a last resort after asking the Information Commissioner and the Telephone Preference Service for help." Of course, he has no interest in getting this story propagated, does he? In that sense, is his spammy story much better than the spamming gits he complained at? Maybe I am wrong - but certainly has a whiff... I agree about his agenda and probable motivation, but to correlate his story being published in the press and on TV with a cold calling operation is a strange way of looking at it. To be fair to the bloke, he's set up a website telling you what he did - and I can't find any links to his recording equipment on that. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 28/10/2012 08:19, Hugh - in either England or Spain wrote:
The guy obviously has an agenda but it shows it can be done - if you can identify the entity at the other end of the line and they have any money When we get four calls in a day from a call centre where the person has an Indian/Pakistani accent, and insists they are calling from the UK despite the satellite lag (1)... that's not going to help. Andy (1) Well the first couple did. The last few haven't had the time. I find "Just a minute", phone on desk then back to the TV quite satisfying... |
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On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:19:54 +0100, Hugh - in either England or Spain
wrote: On 28/10/2012 00:09, Graham. wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 22:18:00 +0100, polygonum wrote: On 27/10/2012 22:04, Hugh - in either England or Spain wrote: http://news.sky.com/story/1003497/vi...aller-to-court Amazing coincidence - the chap did this by using telephone recording kit - and "Mr Herman, who works in the telephone industry selling call-recording equipment, said his action was a last resort after asking the Information Commissioner and the Telephone Preference Service for help." Of course, he has no interest in getting this story propagated, does he? In that sense, is his spammy story much better than the spamming gits he complained at? Maybe I am wrong - but certainly has a whiff... I agree about his agenda and probable motivation, but to correlate his story being published in the press and on TV with a cold calling operation is a strange way of looking at it. The guy obviously has an agenda but it shows it can be done - if you can identify the entity at the other end of the line and they have any money "If you can identify the entity" is the key here. On the few occasions I've engaged the caller in conversation they have either refused to tell me the company they work for or given me a fake name. And if the company is actually based in India I doubt you could do anything even if you could identify them. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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On 29/10/2012 10:38, Mark wrote:
"If you can identify the entity" is the key here. On the few occasions I've engaged the caller in conversation they have either refused to tell me the company they work for or given me a fake name. And if the company is actually based in India I doubt you could do anything even if you could identify them. Agreed. Even if they say something it is often difficult to get the name right. I'd be interested how much the compensation works out at after costs and per hour of thought and effort. -- Rod |
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On 29/10/2012 10:38, Mark wrote:
"If you can identify the entity" is the key here. On the few occasions I've engaged the caller in conversation they have either refused to tell me the company they work for or given me a fake name. And if the company is actually based in India I doubt you could do anything even if you could identify them. But surely, they must be working on behalf of a British entity which would provide whatever "service" they're promoting? -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:31:25 +0000, Roger Mills
wrote: On 29/10/2012 10:38, Mark wrote: "If you can identify the entity" is the key here. On the few occasions I've engaged the caller in conversation they have either refused to tell me the company they work for or given me a fake name. And if the company is actually based in India I doubt you could do anything even if you could identify them. But surely, they must be working on behalf of a British entity which would provide whatever "service" they're promoting? It is possible to provide a "service" to UK residents without the company having an official presence in the UK. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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On 29/10/2012 15:12, Mark wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:31:25 +0000, Roger wrote: On 29/10/2012 10:38, Mark wrote: "If you can identify the entity" is the key here. On the few occasions I've engaged the caller in conversation they have either refused to tell me the company they work for or given me a fake name. And if the company is actually based in India I doubt you could do anything even if you could identify them. But surely, they must be working on behalf of a British entity which would provide whatever "service" they're promoting? It is possible to provide a "service" to UK residents without the company having an official presence in the UK. Maybe, but I would have thought that most of the outfits offering to claim PPI compensation etc. were British. No? -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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On 29/10/2012 18:23, Roger Mills wrote:
On 29/10/2012 15:12, Mark wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:31:25 +0000, Roger wrote: On 29/10/2012 10:38, Mark wrote: "If you can identify the entity" is the key here. On the few occasions I've engaged the caller in conversation they have either refused to tell me the company they work for or given me a fake name. And if the company is actually based in India I doubt you could do anything even if you could identify them. But surely, they must be working on behalf of a British entity which would provide whatever "service" they're promoting? It is possible to provide a "service" to UK residents without the company having an official presence in the UK. Maybe, but I would have thought that most of the outfits offering to claim PPI compensation etc. were British. No? Maybe. But the spam callers are not necessarily doing anything of the sort. Simply mentioning PPI claims could be a ruse for something else - getting information out of you? -- Rod |
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On 29/10/2012 18:23, Roger Mills wrote:
Maybe, but I would have thought that most of the outfits offering to claim PPI compensation etc. were British. No? Maybe. Or maybe further down the spiel they mention that you'll have to make an upfront payment to process the claim, and can they have your credit card details please... Andy |
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On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:29:05 +0000, Andy Champ
wrote: On 29/10/2012 18:23, Roger Mills wrote: Maybe, but I would have thought that most of the outfits offering to claim PPI compensation etc. were British. No? Maybe. Or maybe further down the spiel they mention that you'll have to make an upfront payment to process the claim, and can they have your credit card details please... That's my guess. I just assume the PPI calls are scams rather than ordinary marketing calls. -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) If a man stands in a forest and no woman is around (")_(") is he still wrong? |
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