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I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my
other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? |
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On Jun 27, 10:15*pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote:
I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? did you partition the disk first, or just overwrite xp? if you just overwrote XP you may be in trouble! |
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Allan Mac wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? did you partition the disk first, or just overwrite xp? if you just overwrote XP you may be in trouble! The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. |
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Jim Hawkins wrote:
The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. Your XP (and data you had stored on the hard disk) is toast :-( Backup? |
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The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it
was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. Can you be more specific about the "trial" you downloaded? I ask as Windows releases do not usually allow you to revert and I'd be very surprised if you can now. And MS usually make this pretty clear. Eg the Windows 8 release preview carries a pretty clear warning: "Important: If you decide to go back to your previous operating system, you'll need to reinstall it from the recovery or installation media that came with your PC, which is typically DVD media. If you don't have recovery media, you might be able to create it from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer's website for more information. After you install Windows 8, you won't be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows." -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
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I don't think you can without reinstalling it.
Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Jim Hawkins" wrote in message m... I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? |
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Yes windows 8 even calls some of its messages toasts I see..
Normally, if you want it to not be permanent, you need to install as a multi boot system when it shoves in another partition and makes one primary. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Andy Burns" wrote in message o.uk... Jim Hawkins wrote: The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. Your XP (and data you had stored on the hard disk) is toast :-( Backup? |
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Yup, that was almost word for word what they put in the last version as
well. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "Robin" wrote in message ... The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. Can you be more specific about the "trial" you downloaded? I ask as Windows releases do not usually allow you to revert and I'd be very surprised if you can now. And MS usually make this pretty clear. Eg the Windows 8 release preview carries a pretty clear warning: "Important: If you decide to go back to your previous operating system, you'll need to reinstall it from the recovery or installation media that came with your PC, which is typically DVD media. If you don't have recovery media, you might be able to create it from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer's website for more information. After you install Windows 8, you won't be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows." -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
windows 8 even calls some of its messages toasts I see.. Android calls little pop-up messages toasts, don't think I heard the term used before that. |
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On Jun 27, 10:15*pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote:
I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. NT |
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NT wrote:
On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. It still won't talk to my Windows based mobile phone or the decent soundcard, though. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:15:06 +0100, Jim Hawkins wrote:
I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? Cue lots of variations of the standard reply: "Install Linux poster's favourite distribution". (not a very helpful response, though). -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:15:06 +0100, "Jim Hawkins"
wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? Have you tried turning it off and back on again? If that doesn't work then try an angle grinder or duct tape -- |
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before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. NT Here we go again. A totally pointless response to the question. Maybe Linux comes with a requirement for users to churn out this answer at every opportunity. km |
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"NT" wrote in message ... On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. Mint doesn't work very well on my touch screen tablet. I don't think the multi touch screen or digitiser work well under any linux system. |
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"km" wrote in message ... before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. NT Here we go again. A totally pointless response to the question. Maybe Linux comes with a requirement for users to churn out this answer at every opportunity. Its a natural response, they have to try and justify their choice and getting others to use it is the best justification they can manage. |
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Jim Hawkins wrote:
I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? There does not seem to be any way back. Luckily I have laptops and another PC with most of the things I need to keep on them. But it has been interesting to see what Windows 8 is like - a kiddies picture book is the best description I can think of. Presumably Microsoft have decided to dumb down their OSs to match the trend in western educational standards. I'll be staying with XP pro as long as possible. |
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dennis@home wrote:
"NT" wrote in message ... On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. Mint doesn't work very well on my touch screen tablet. I don't think the multi touch screen or digitiser work well under any linux system. i guess that's why android - the most popular os for mobile devices - is linux, then? -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 13:40:38 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
"NT" wrote in message ... On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. Mint doesn't work very well on my touch screen tablet. I don't think the multi touch screen or digitiser work well under any linux system. Isn't that what Unity (in the Ubuntu stream since 11.04) is supposed to address ? |
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On 27/06/2012 22:42, Robin wrote:
The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. Can you be more specific about the "trial" you downloaded? I ask as Windows releases do not usually allow you to revert and I'd be very surprised if you can now. And MS usually make this pretty clear. Eg the Windows 8 release preview carries a pretty clear warning: "Important: If you decide to go back to your previous operating system, you'll need to reinstall it from the recovery or installation media that came with your PC, which is typically DVD media. If you don't have recovery media, you might be able to create it from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer's website for more information. After you install Windows 8, you won't be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows." Let me get this right. Microsoft have given you a Windows 8 trial that will at some point expire. At this point you either have to pay for the release version or your PC will be useless because there is no facility for returning to XP. Nice. |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:47:12 +0100, Andrew May wrote:
On 27/06/2012 22:42, Robin wrote: The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. Can you be more specific about the "trial" you downloaded? I ask as Windows releases do not usually allow you to revert and I'd be very surprised if you can now. And MS usually make this pretty clear. Eg the Windows 8 release preview carries a pretty clear warning: "Important: If you decide to go back to your previous operating system, you'll need to reinstall it from the recovery or installation media that came with your PC, which is typically DVD media. If you don't have recovery media, you might be able to create it from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer's website for more information. After you install Windows 8, you won't be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows." Let me get this right. Microsoft have given you a Windows 8 trial that will at some point expire. At this point you either have to pay for the release version or your PC will be useless because there is no facility for returning to XP. Nice. As far as I know, no MS OSes allow for an reversion, trial or not. In fact it wasn't until recently they allowed for multiple boots. |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:21 +0000, Bob Eager wrote:
Cue lots of variations of the standard reply: "Install Linux poster's favourite distribution". SLS... :-) |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 11:47:21 +0100, The Other Mike wrote:
Have you tried turning it off and back on again? If that doesn't work then try an angle grinder or duct tape You have to pressure-wash it first, though. |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 14:56:03 +0000, Jules Richardson wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 09:32:21 +0000, Bob Eager wrote: Cue lots of variations of the standard reply: "Install Linux poster's favourite distribution". SLS... :-) That's your favourite? -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Jun 28, 10:32*am, Bob Eager wrote:
On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 22:15:06 +0100, Jim Hawkins wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? Cue lots of variations of the standard reply: "Install Linux poster's favourite distribution". (not a very helpful response, though). It sure helped me when I had windows issues. NT |
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Let me get this right. Microsoft have given you a Windows 8 trial that
will at some point expire. At this point you either have to pay for the release version or your PC will be useless because there is no facility for returning to XP. Nice. I can't say that's wrong but I saw it rather as MS giving me a free trial of Windows 8 which I have installed on an old, spare hard drive to see what I think of it, while I continue to be able to use my XP system as before. And, as I and Brian indicated, they do make it pretty clear that if anyone just installs over their current OS there'll be no going back. -- Robin reply to address is (meant to be) valid |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. Mint doesn't work very well on my touch screen tablet. I don't think the multi touch screen or digitiser work well under any linux system. i guess that's why android - the most popular os for mobile devices - is linux, then? Android is an OS that uses the linux kernel the same as mint is an OS that uses the linux kernel. Android is *not* linux in the sense most people refer to mint, ubuntu etc. |
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"Jethro_uk" wrote in message ... As far as I know, no MS OSes allow for an reversion, trial or not. In fact it wasn't until recently they allowed for multiple boots. You mean since windows 2000? |
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"Andrew May" wrote in message ... Let me get this right. Microsoft have given you a Windows 8 trial that will at some point expire. At this point you either have to pay for the release version or your PC will be useless because there is no facility for returning to XP. Nice. Its a preview. They tell you to make sure you can revert using whatever method you like before you install it. Its like linux, they don't provide a method to revert either. You either reinstall or restore a backup. |
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dennis@home wrote:
"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. Mint doesn't work very well on my touch screen tablet. I don't think the multi touch screen or digitiser work well under any linux system. i guess that's why android - the most popular os for mobile devices - is linux, then? Android is an OS that uses the linux kernel the same as mint is an OS that uses the linux kernel. Android is *not* linux in the sense most people refer to mint, ubuntu etc. define most people Seen latest Ubuntu Unity yet? OSX is unix based these days... ONLY windows STILL hasn't ported their bloatware to a stable underlying operating system. -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... dennis@home wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... On Jun 27, 10:15 pm, "Jim Hawkins" wrote: I wasted over an hour downloading this trial on my other PC. I have decided I do not now want it, but it doesn't tell me how to revert to the original XP ! Anyone know how ? before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. Mint doesn't work very well on my touch screen tablet. I don't think the multi touch screen or digitiser work well under any linux system. i guess that's why android - the most popular os for mobile devices - is linux, then? Android is an OS that uses the linux kernel the same as mint is an OS that uses the linux kernel. Android is *not* linux in the sense most people refer to mint, ubuntu etc. define most people Seen latest Ubuntu Unity yet? The last one was cr@p, I am not sure I want to risk another one as they don't provide a method to return to windows. OSX is unix based these days... OSX has always been "unix" based, well in as much as you can call BSD unix. However linux is not Unix based, it is just a functional copy of Unix and has not passed certification and probably never will. ONLY windows STILL hasn't ported their bloatware to a stable underlying operating system. Well windows stays up for months at a time so it isn't unstable. |
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On 27/06/2012 22:42, Robin wrote:
The instructions didn't mention partitioning the disk - it implied it was just a temporary installation. And it certainly didn't mention overwriting XP. Can you be more specific about the "trial" you downloaded? I ask as Windows releases do not usually allow you to revert and I'd be very surprised if you can now. And MS usually make this pretty clear. Eg the Windows 8 release preview carries a pretty clear warning: "Important: If you decide to go back to your previous operating system, you'll need to reinstall it from the recovery or installation media that came with your PC, which is typically DVD media. If you don't have recovery media, you might be able to create it from a recovery partition on your PC using software provided by your PC manufacturer. Check the support section of your PC manufacturer's website for more information. After you install Windows 8, you won't be able to use the recovery partition on your PC to go back to your previous version of Windows." Yup. I tried Windows 8 a while ago and it does give dire warnings such as that. I just used a separate partition. I can't say that I was impressed with it. 7 was good from the start, whereas 8 just seems disorienting and confusing. SteveW |
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On 28/06/2012 12:01, km wrote:
before you do, try linux mint. It makes windows look pointless. NT Here we go again. A totally pointless response to the question. Maybe Linux comes with a requirement for users to churn out this answer at every opportunity. km I wouldn't consider it pointless. I run Windows throughout (XP, XP MCE, Vista, 7 and WHS 2011) and don't use Linux at all (I've tried a few times, but not really gone anywhere with it), but as he's going to have to wipe everything anyway, he may as well consider trying Linux while he has the chance. SteveW |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:49:39 +0100, dennis@home wrote:
OSX has always been "unix" based, well in as much as you can call BSD unix. However linux is not Unix based, it is just a functional copy of Unix and has not passed certification and probably never will. I always refer to Linux as a 'jumped up UNIX wannabe'. When giving my introductory lecture on UNIX. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 28/06/2012 14:03, Jim Hawkins wrote:
There does not seem to be any way back. Luckily I have laptops and another PC with most of the things I need to keep on them. But it has been interesting to see what Windows 8 is like - a kiddies picture book is the best description I can think of. Presumably Microsoft have decided to dumb down their OSs to match the trend in western educational standards. I'll be staying with XP pro as long as possible. Windows 7 is pretty good. As MS seem to mess up every other OS I'm not rushing into 8. Andy |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:27:44 +0100, Andy Champ wrote:
On 28/06/2012 14:03, Jim Hawkins wrote: There does not seem to be any way back. Luckily I have laptops and another PC with most of the things I need to keep on them. But it has been interesting to see what Windows 8 is like - a kiddies picture book is the best description I can think of. Presumably Microsoft have decided to dumb down their OSs to match the trend in western educational standards. I'll be staying with XP pro as long as possible. Windows 7 is pretty good. As MS seem to mess up every other OS I'm not rushing into 8. Yup, it's fine for me. I have a Windows 7 desktop just fro work stuff; everything else (including news!) is FreeBSD. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:49:39 +0100, dennis@home wrote: OSX has always been "unix" based, well in as much as you can call BSD unix. However linux is not Unix based, it is just a functional copy of Unix and has not passed certification and probably never will. I always refer to Linux as a 'jumped up UNIX wannabe'. When giving my introductory lecture on UNIX. That doesn't make it a true statement though. Linux is a thoroughly proven and developed kernel these days. You may argue about the desktop and gui bloatware but the underlying kernel is as good as or better than any unix. -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:30:12 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Bob Eager wrote: On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 19:49:39 +0100, dennis@home wrote: OSX has always been "unix" based, well in as much as you can call BSD unix. However linux is not Unix based, it is just a functional copy of Unix and has not passed certification and probably never will. I always refer to Linux as a 'jumped up UNIX wannabe'. When giving my introductory lecture on UNIX. That doesn't make it a true statement though. Linux is a thoroughly proven and developed kernel these days. You may argue about the desktop and gui bloatware but the underlying kernel is as good as or better than any unix. But it's not UNIX. Which was my point. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: Linux is a thoroughly proven and developed kernel these days. You may argue about the desktop and gui bloatware but the underlying kernel is as good as or better than any unix. As someone who is migrating from Solaris to RedHat at the moment, it might be good, but it's certainly not Solaris :-) Missing dtrace and zfs the most. Maybe the top notch Sun/Oracle support as well :-( Darren |
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