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On 30/04/2012 20:44, ARWadsworth wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards That's really funny. Tim W |
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Tim W wrote
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards That's really funny. Even funnier when they try it across a fast moving river. |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards He was a victim of the drought! Another victim of the drought in Hampshire died when he tried to ford a local stream that was under 5ft of water. It looks like he was taking a shortcut to a small council estate. There was no need to ford the stream, there's a perfectl good, safe route around it using two main roads and a bridge. Darwin can be mildly satisfied. |
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yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... -- Tony Sayer |
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:44:09 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Dennis drives a blue VW? -- |
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message ... In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Remember that a lot of modern cars have the inlet just behind the rad at about the same height as the top of the wheels. |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message ... In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Remember that a lot of modern cars have the inlet just behind the rad at about the same height as the top of the wheels. yep. -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message ... In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Fit water wings to the car, silly. |
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:44:09 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Almost made it, if he hadn't been an arse and probably driving something with a low air intake too. thinks They're called the Somerset Levels for a reason, aren't they? Like, might be prone to the odd flood? |
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dennis@home wrote: "Tim Streater" wrote in message ... In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Remember that a lot of modern cars have the inlet just behind the rad at about the same height as the top of the wheels. In my Seat Toledo, it turned out to be just below the bumper! Luckily the engine was cold. In my Anglia (in 1971) I drove through a ford that was 21" deep - lots of WD40 on the plug leads first. -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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On 30/04/2012 23:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Drive slowly. It stops the bow wave getting too large and gives you a chance to stop if it looks as though the water is getting too deep. Also, know where your water intake is, or the fording depth of the vehicle, if published. I've seen engines wrecked by sucking in water and try to compress it. I've also watched an early Mini float downstream while crossing a ford - fortunately into a barrier alongside the ford. Colin Bignell |
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On 30/04/2012 23:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Drive slowly. It stops the bow wave getting too large and gives you a chance to stop if it looks as though the water is getting too deep. Also, know where your water intake is, or the fording depth of the vehicle, if published. I've seen engines wrecked by sucking in water and try to compress it. I've also watched an early Mini float downstream while crossing a ford - fortunately into a barrier alongside the ford. The rules for fording a- Lowest gear. High revs (even if this requires slipping the clutch) Forward pace fast enough to hold an un-broken bow wave. On older vehicles removing the fan belt helps. And yes, a very sound knowledge of where your air intake and any vital electronics are located. Mike |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards What a plonker... Very funny though. The kids in the rubebr dinghy earlier seemed to be enjoying it... -- Tim Watts |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Trying not to dive it so deep all the electronics and the air intake go below water? -- Tim Watts |
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charles wrote:
In article , dennis@home wrote: "Tim Streater" wrote in message ... In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Remember that a lot of modern cars have the inlet just behind the rad at about the same height as the top of the wheels. In my Seat Toledo, it turned out to be just below the bumper! Luckily the engine was cold. You were lucky - cold or not, you can still hyraulic the engine (ie snap stuff off). In my Anglia (in 1971) I drove through a ford that was 21" deep - lots of WD40 on the plug leads first. -- Tim Watts |
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On Tue, 1 May 2012 09:06:57 +0100, "Muddymike"
wrote: The rules for fording a- No 1 - Find out how deep the water is _before_ driving into it. |
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scribeth thus Tim Streater wrote: In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Trying not to dive it so deep all the electronics Well that in most all instances will be sealed. Least all the ones I've come across are, apart from the high voltage switchgear on ignition on older cars.. and the air intake go Much more important;!.. below water? I reckon the problem is that yer average *Joe these days knows sod all of what goes on under the bonnet. They can't do or don't want to do any maintenance themselves preferring to leave it all to the garage. Hence they never get to learn just how a car works and what all the bits of it do. I bet most all of them couldn't explain how the engine works let alone know where the engine air intake is even;!.. * Inc Josephine too .. and prolly worse in this aspect... -- Tony Sayer |
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Peter Parry wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 09:06:57 +0100, "Muddymike" wrote: The rules for fording a- No 1 - Find out how deep the water is _before_ driving into it. These chaps initially didn't have quite enough water, but once they had sorted that... ;-) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=59b_1335633237&p=1 Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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On Tue, 01 May 2012 07:16:01 +0100, charles
wrote: Remember that a lot of modern cars have the inlet just behind the rad at about the same height as the top of the wheels. In my Seat Toledo, it turned out to be just below the bumper! Luckily the engine was cold. In my Anglia (in 1971) I drove through a ford that was 21" deep - lots of WD40 on the plug leads first. Stalled an A35 Van going through a flood when they were building the M27 and a pump had stopped in a road dip,(It was ere http://g.co/maps/n28mn) Truth was with poor lights ,no heater or screenwashers I hadn't noticed it was a deep lake rather than the puddle it normally was on my early am journey. It was mechanical loading rather than wetness which stalled the engine, an observer who had stalled on the far side after leaving the puddle laughed his head off and said he was waiting for the AA. The old car had a weak battery so I went straight to the starting handle searching for the hole as the water was almost up to the headlights. Previously all ignition parts had been liberaly coated with PVC spray. Started first crank and I left the laughter man with his mouth open in amazement.Lot to said for a very simple machine. Would not attempt to go through deep water in most modern cars unless they had a lot of ground clearance. About 23 years ago when I first had a company Diesel I thought it was invincible ,engine wise it was as I ploughed through some deep flood water. The boss didn't like the bill for replacing the phone unit situated under the seat damaged as water poured in. With all the gizmos under seats like seat belt tensioners and other electronics getting water into the cabin can be now be expensive rather than dry the carpets and mats and give the cabin floor a good rinse. G.Harman |
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On May 1, 8:31*am, Nightjar wrote:
On 30/04/2012 23:04, Tim Streater wrote: In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Drive slowly. It stops the bow wave getting too large and gives you a chance to stop if it looks as though the water is getting too deep. Wonder about that after watching a Landrover go through a swollen ford at the weekend, lannie with snorkel.. Intially thought he was being a bit keen with the bow wave going over the bonnet until midstream when need for forward impetus showed up, watching it go sideways against the flow, full Nigel Mansell style opposite lock to get across without getting washed down to the weir... Cheers Adam Also, know where your water intake is, or the fording depth of the vehicle, if published. I've seen engines wrecked by sucking in water and try to compress it. I've also watched an early Mini float downstream while crossing a ford - fortunately into a barrier alongside the ford. Colin Bignell |
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On 01/05/2012 11:54, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Peter Parry wrote: On Tue, 1 May 2012 09:06:57 +0100, "Muddymike" wrote: The rules for fording a- No 1 - Find out how deep the water is _before_ driving into it. These chaps initially didn't have quite enough water, but once they had sorted that... ;-) http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=59b_1335633237&p=1 Chris Have people learned nothing from Titanic. just look at the icebergs in the background. lol |
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"Gary" wrote in message ... Have people learned nothing from Titanic. the obvious answer is no. Look at the Costa Concordia accident, It hit a rock, got a gash in its side, floated for a few minutes and then capsized. If the wind hadn't blown it into the shore there would have been thousands dead. They couldn't even launch the lifeboats. On the other hand the titanic suffered similar damage and stayed afloat long enough to launch all its lifeboats and saved thousands from certain death. I know which was the better ship. just look at the icebergs in the background. lol |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? I am sure that even at tickover water would not go up the exhaust. ISTR the highrevs mean there is less chance of a stall if a little water gets on the HT leads and restarting from a stall could be a problem as water would now be in the exhaust. -- Adam |
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On Tue, 01 May 2012 09:01:52 +0100, Moonraker wrote:
On 30/04/2012 23:59, wrote: On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:44:09 +0100, "ARWadsworth" wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Almost made it, if he hadn't been an arse and probably driving something with a low air intake too. thinks They're called the Somerset Levels for a reason, aren't they? Like, might be prone to the odd flood? As a child and young man I lived on the southern slope of the Mendip Hills overlooking the Somerset levels. Every year we could see the flood water, but it did no harm. Then they started serious drainage and followed that by building property on areas that used to be prone to flooding. This is the result. Sadly property is being built all over flood plains, bound to give problems sooner or later, however well drained. Used to work in Leamington Spa, and to the left of the M40 J15 slip it was under water for January and February, 2006 and 2007 .... |
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dennis@home wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message ... Have people learned nothing from Titanic. the obvious answer is no. Look at the Costa Concordia accident, It hit a rock, got a gash in its side, floated for a few minutes and then capsized. If the wind hadn't blown it into the shore there would have been thousands dead. They couldn't even launch the lifeboats. On the other hand the titanic suffered similar damage and stayed afloat long enough to launch all its lifeboats and saved thousands from certain death. I know which was the better ship. just look at the icebergs in the background. lol I will agree with dennis here - the Titanic was of extremely good construction in itself, relative to the day and its peers. Sadly, where something is foolproof, there will inevitably a better class of fool, so the fools overcompensated for the Titanic's "unsinkability" by under-fitting lifeboats and generally acting like nobs from the piloting style (full steam at night despite iceberg warnings and no radar) until the end (officers did not know the safe person compliment of a lifeboat and launched many half empty). -- Tim Watts |
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Tim Watts wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards What a plonker... Very funny though. This one is funnier. -- Adam |
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Peter Parry spake thus:
On Tue, 1 May 2012 09:06:57 +0100, "Muddymike" wrote: The rules for fording a- No 1 - Find out how deep the water is _before_ driving into it. "I don't understand it, the water only came half way up those ducks." |
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On 01/05/2012 12:44, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On May 1, 8:31 am, wrote: On 30/04/2012 23:04, Tim Streater wrote: .... In , tony wrote: In , ARWadsworthadamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Drive slowly. It stops the bow wave getting too large and gives you a chance to stop if it looks as though the water is getting too deep. Wonder about that after watching a Landrover go through a swollen ford at the weekend, lannie with snorkel.. Intially thought he was being a bit keen with the bow wave going over the bonnet until midstream when need for forward impetus showed up, watching it go sideways against the flow, full Nigel Mansell style opposite lock to get across without getting washed down to the weir... Vehicles equipped for deep fording do need a different approach, but it is reasonable to assume that anyone driving on of those should have had a bit of practice first. The advice I liked with the Discovery was to remove the CD player (under the front passenger seat) before tackling deep water. Colin Bignell |
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On 01/05/2012 12:44, Adam Aglionby wrote:
On May 1, 8:31 am, wrote: On 30/04/2012 23:04, Tim Streater wrote: ... In , tony wrote: In , ARWadsworthadamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Drive slowly. It stops the bow wave getting too large and gives you a chance to stop if it looks as though the water is getting too deep. Wonder about that after watching a Landrover go through a swollen ford at the weekend, lannie with snorkel.. Intially thought he was being a bit keen with the bow wave going over the bonnet until midstream when need for forward impetus showed up, watching it go sideways against the flow, full Nigel Mansell style opposite lock to get across without getting washed down to the weir... Vehicles equipped for deep fording do need a different approach, but it is reasonable to assume that anyone driving on of those should have had a bit of practice first. The advice I liked with the Discovery was to remove the CD player (under the front passenger seat) before tackling deep water. Colin Bignell I have forded rivers in elderly Land Rovers with water over my boots. My passengers were ok they could lift their feet up, I however got wet feet as I had to keep mine on the pedals. No fancy preparation other than removing the fan belt! Before entering the water with a vehicle one of us would strip off and wade in to judge the depth, and pick the best route. Chilly at best when wading through snow melt in the Orange river. Mike |
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On 01/05/2012 15:00, Tim Watts wrote:
.... I will agree with dennis here - the Titanic was of extremely good construction in itself, relative to the day and its peers. Sadly, where something is foolproof, there will inevitably a better class of fool, so the fools overcompensated for the Titanic's "unsinkability" The actual 1911 quote from Shipbuilder magazine, which was later taken out of context, was that when the watertight doors were closed, the ship would be practically unsinkable. by under-fitting lifeboats They fitted more than the law required. The Board of Trade held the views that wireless telegraphy ensured the safety of passengers and that, in any case, time would not allow more than 16 lifeboats to be filled if a ship were sinking. Titanic managed to launch 18 lifeboats out of 20 carried. The designer had originally specified 32, but the owners thought that made the upper deck too cluttered. and generally acting like nobs from the piloting style (full steam at night despite iceberg warnings and no radar) In 1912, radar was only a theoretical possibility suggested, that year IIRC, by Marconi. Giving the lookouts binoculars might have helped though. until the end (officers did not know the safe person compliment of a lifeboat and launched many half empty). Lightoller knew the rating, but was concerned that the davits were not strong enough to allow a full lifeboat to be lowered safely, so ordered lifeboat six to be launched when only part full. He acknowledged that he should have made provision for it to be filled once in the water. Colin Bignell |
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writes In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... If he'd driven more slowly he would probably have been OK -- hugh |
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Streater writes In article , tony sayer wrote: In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue yonder.co.uk scribeth thus http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17901615 watch from 56 seconds onwards Perhaps he thinks he's got that Lotus that James Bond had that worked underwater. Some people just haven't a clue on how to drive in a flood;(... First gear and rev it to stop water going up the exhaust. Anything else? Watch the bow wave and keep in the trough behind it. Water will not come up the exhaust as long as the engine is running. If the engine stops DO check the exhaust is not under water before you try to restart - other wise you will hydraulic the engine. Snorkels on land Rovers are not just cosmetic. -- hugh |
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In message , Tim Watts
writes dennis@home wrote: "Gary" wrote in message ... Have people learned nothing from Titanic. the obvious answer is no. Look at the Costa Concordia accident, It hit a rock, got a gash in its side, floated for a few minutes and then capsized. If the wind hadn't blown it into the shore there would have been thousands dead. They couldn't even launch the lifeboats. On the other hand the titanic suffered similar damage and stayed afloat long enough to launch all its lifeboats and saved thousands from certain death. I know which was the better ship. just look at the icebergs in the background. lol I will agree with dennis here - the Titanic was of extremely good construction in itself, relative to the day and its peers. Sadly, where something is foolproof, there will inevitably a better class of fool, so the fools overcompensated for the Titanic's "unsinkability" by under-fitting lifeboats and generally acting like nobs from the piloting style (full steam at night despite iceberg warnings and no radar) until the end (officers did not know the safe person compliment of a lifeboat and launched many half empty). The Titanics initial design unsinkability was destroyed by removing bulkheads to create a massive uninterrupted deck. -- hugh |
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On 01/05/2012 15:30, Muddymike wrote:
.... I have forded rivers in elderly Land Rovers with water over my boots. My passengers were ok they could lift their feet up, I however got wet feet as I had to keep mine on the pedals. No fancy preparation other than removing the fan belt! Before entering the water with a vehicle one of us would strip off and wade in to judge the depth, and pick the best route. Chilly at best when wading through snow melt in the Orange river. With a rope attached, I hope? People can be swept off their feet in as little as six inches of water. Colin Bignell |
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On Tue, 1 May 2012 16:21:21 +0100, hugh ] wrote:
If the engine stops DO check the exhaust is not under water before you try to restart - other wise you will hydraulic the engine. air comes in 'suck squeeze bang blow' combustion products are then forced out of the exhaust Engines don't suck air through the exhaust. Even if the exhaust is flooded the engine will not hydraulic, it might not start but it will certainly not hydraulic. -- |
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hugh wrote:
In message , Tim Watts writes dennis@home wrote: "Gary" wrote in message ... Have people learned nothing from Titanic. the obvious answer is no. Look at the Costa Concordia accident, It hit a rock, got a gash in its side, floated for a few minutes and then capsized. If the wind hadn't blown it into the shore there would have been thousands dead. They couldn't even launch the lifeboats. On the other hand the titanic suffered similar damage and stayed afloat long enough to launch all its lifeboats and saved thousands from certain death. I know which was the better ship. just look at the icebergs in the background. lol I will agree with dennis here - the Titanic was of extremely good construction in itself, relative to the day and its peers. Sadly, where something is foolproof, there will inevitably a better class of fool, so the fools overcompensated for the Titanic's "unsinkability" by under-fitting lifeboats and generally acting like nobs from the piloting style (full steam at night despite iceberg warnings and no radar) until the end (officers did not know the safe person compliment of a lifeboat and launched many half empty). The Titanics initial design unsinkability was destroyed by removing bulkheads to create a massive uninterrupted deck. I'll just clarify that I don't think the design was "unsinkable" (unlike, say, a foam filled canoe) - just "very good". It did hold up for quite a while despite having some bloody big holes ripped in it... Sadly, if there had been enough lifeboats and the crew had been drilled on a full evacuation, that design might have bought them enough time to save a considerable proportion of the passengers and crew. BTW - death or no death impending, I would not have wanted to be near the furnace rooms when they flooded! I'll take drowing and/or hypothermia over being steamed to death... -- Tim Watts |
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Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Tim Watts wrote: Sadly, where something is foolproof, there will inevitably a better class of fool, so the fools overcompensated for the Titanic's "unsinkability" by under-fitting lifeboats and generally acting like nobs from the piloting style (full steam at night despite iceberg warnings and no radar) until the end (officers did not know the safe person compliment of a lifeboat and launched many half empty). You mean they knew they had no radar ?? No, I mean they had no radar - something people tend to take for granted these days... -- Tim Watts |
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Tim Watts wrote: Tim Streater wrote: In article , Tim Watts wrote: Sadly, where something is foolproof, there will inevitably a better class of fool, so the fools overcompensated for the Titanic's "unsinkability" by under-fitting lifeboats and generally acting like nobs from the piloting style (full steam at night despite iceberg warnings and no radar) until the end (officers did not know the safe person compliment of a lifeboat and launched many half empty). You mean they knew they had no radar ?? No, I mean they had no radar - something people tend to take for granted these days... they had none because it wasn't invented. w -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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