White spirit won't burn?
 

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...vent%20Ra nge

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On 30/04/2012 15:44, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...vent%20Ra nge


Yes it will. Flash point for standard white spirit is around 31 - 54 C
(Wikipedia) so you can't light a pool of it, but it will burn on a wick,
like paraffin.

White spirit won't burn?
 

"Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it going.

Excellent idea, remember to use as much petrol as possible.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On 30/04/2012 16:46, Steve Firth wrote:
"Lieutenant wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it going.

Excellent idea, remember to use as much petrol as possible.

and remember to put the video on YouTube in case it merits submission to
the Darwin awards

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent
%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On 30/04/2012 17:11, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent
%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

Agreed; although you can also use one of those "chainsaw" disks in an
angle grinder!

A Mattock is also a useful supplement to your list.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:46:37 +0000 (UTC), Steve Firth wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get
it going.

Excellent idea, remember to use as much petrol as possible.

And leave it to soak in for few minutes before attempting to light it
with a lighter.

--
Cheers
Dave.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:56:39 +0100, Nospam wrote:

On 30/04/2012 16:46, Steve Firth wrote:
"Lieutenant wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going.

Excellent idea, remember to use as much petrol as possible.

and remember to put the video on YouTube in case it merits submission to
the Darwin awards

erm you mean arrange your will to include whoever finds your remains to
post said video on youpube?

Jim K

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...vent%20Ra nge


Sorted.

I bought a jerry can of petrol and tried burning them, but they kept going out. So I took the easy option.

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden, tied the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the ground. She was particularly concerned that my car (or flying tree stump) was aiming directly for her kitchen window. She took the dog for a walk while I did it :-)

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And then the fight started...

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:43:51 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 30/04/2012 15:44, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...vent%20Ra nge


Yes it will. Flash point for standard white spirit is around 31 - 54 C
(Wikipedia) so you can't light a pool of it, but it will burn on a wick,
like paraffin.

I placed a lit cigarette lighter above it, and even into it, but it did not light.

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:06:09 +0100, Jim K wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:56:39 +0100, Nospam wrote:

On 30/04/2012 16:46, Steve Firth wrote:
"Lieutenant wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going.

Excellent idea, remember to use as much petrol as possible.

and remember to put the video on YouTube in case it merits submission to
the Darwin awards

erm you mean arrange your will to include whoever finds your remains to
post said video on youpube?

I did manage to set fire to a jug of petrol I was holding while soaking the stump next to the one that was burning, that would have looked funny on video.

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:11:03 +0100, Jethro_uk wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent
%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

I have a pick and shovel but it was taking ages - there were 10 of them.

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:24:43 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 30/04/2012 17:11, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent
%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

Agreed; although you can also use one of those "chainsaw" disks in an
angle grinder!

Unfortunately my angle grinder is the small kind, it can't cut deep enough through a big stump.

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Oscillate its titalot.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Apr 30, 8:00*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:43:51 +0100, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 15:44, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...=23&Group=Solv...

Yes it will. Flash point for standard white spirit is around 31 - 54 C
(Wikipedia) so you can't light a pool of it, but it will burn on a wick,
like paraffin.

I placed a lit cigarette lighter above it, and even into it, but it did not light.


You ARE a halfwit. Only the vapour will burn. No vapour, no fire.
Simples.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Apr 30, 8:01*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:06:09 +0100, Jim K wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:56:39 +0100, Nospam wrote:

On 30/04/2012 16:46, Steve Firth wrote:
"Lieutenant *wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going.

Excellent idea, remember to use as much petrol as possible.

and remember to put the video on YouTube in case it merits submission to
the Darwin awards

erm you mean arrange your will to include whoever finds your remains to
post said video on youpube?

I did manage to set fire to a jug of petrol I was holding while soaking the stump next to the one that was burning, that would have looked funny on video.

A bit like that silly cow that was decanting petrol in her kitchen a
couple of weeks back eh?

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:39:33 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:00 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:43:51 +0100, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 15:44, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...=23&Group=Solv...

Yes it will. Flash point for standard white spirit is around 31 - 54 C
(Wikipedia) so you can't light a pool of it, but it will burn on a wick,
like paraffin.

I placed a lit cigarette lighter above it, and even into it, but it did not light.


You ARE a halfwit. Only the vapour will burn. No vapour, no fire.
Simples.

Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

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White spirit won't burn?
 

"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlgmza0ytk5n5@i7-940...


Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Put it under it and it will *warm up* and burn.

White spirit won't burn?
 

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:39:33 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:00 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:43:51 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 30/04/2012 15:44, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...=23&Group=Solv...


Yes it will. Flash point for standard white spirit is around 31 - 54 C
(Wikipedia) so you can't light a pool of it, but it will burn on a
wick,
like paraffin.

I placed a lit cigarette lighter above it, and even into it, but it
did not light.


You ARE a halfwit. Only the vapour will burn. No vapour, no fire.
Simples.

Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Until it gets to its flash point there is no vapour to burn. For white
spirit, the easiest way to get enough of it above its flash point so
that combustion can start is to use a wick. It's like diesel, you can
extinguish a burning cigarette in a pool of it of you're not too slow,
but it burns very well indeed using a wick or some other way of
vapourising a small amount.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:41:17 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:01 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:06:09 +0100, Jim K wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:56:39 +0100, Nospam wrote:

On 30/04/2012 16:46, Steve Firth wrote:
"Lieutenant wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going.

Excellent idea, remember to use as much petrol as possible.

and remember to put the video on YouTube in case it merits submission to
the Darwin awards

erm you mean arrange your will to include whoever finds your remains to
post said video on youpube?

I did manage to set fire to a jug of petrol I was holding while soaking the stump next to the one that was burning, that would have looked funny on video.

A bit like that silly cow that was decanting petrol in her kitchen a
couple of weeks back eh?

It would appear petrol vapour travels quite far. Surprising really that petrol stations don't go up in flames all the time.

A good reason to use diesel cars!!

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On 30/04/2012 20:03, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:24:43 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 30/04/2012 17:11, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent

%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

Agreed; although you can also use one of those "chainsaw" disks in an
angle grinder!

Unfortunately my angle grinder is the small kind, it can't cut deep
enough through a big stump.

A stump grinder is rather like what I was proposing. You attack it from
one side and carry on until you are through to the other, having reduced
it all to chips. As others have said, usually the best approach is to
dig all the way round and sever the roots below ground level before
pulling it out. But you can't always do that, and this is where the
stump grinder comes in.

It was half a joke, actually, given that some of us like to use them to
solve all problems.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On 30/04/2012 19:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use
that instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...vent%20Ra nge



Sorted.

I bought a jerry can of petrol and tried burning them, but they kept
going out. So I took the easy option.

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden, tied
the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the ground. She
was particularly concerned that my car (or flying tree stump) was aiming
directly for her kitchen window. She took the dog for a walk while I did
it :-)


Glad it's sorted. Can't have been much of a tree stump in that case,
though (unless it was very rotten below ground). When it's the other way
round, a small tree can stop a surprisingly fast or heavy vehicle.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:06:58 +0100, dennis@home wrote:



"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlgmza0ytk5n5@i7-940...


Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Put it under it and it will *warm up* and burn.

I suppose, but why do we need the flammable warning on that and not paper (which is considerably easier to light)?

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:09:43 +0100, John Williamson wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:39:33 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:00 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:43:51 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 30/04/2012 15:44, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...=23&Group=Solv...


Yes it will. Flash point for standard white spirit is around 31 - 54 C
(Wikipedia) so you can't light a pool of it, but it will burn on a
wick,
like paraffin.

I placed a lit cigarette lighter above it, and even into it, but it
did not light.


You ARE a halfwit. Only the vapour will burn. No vapour, no fire.
Simples.

Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Until it gets to its flash point there is no vapour to burn. For white
spirit, the easiest way to get enough of it above its flash point so
that combustion can start is to use a wick. It's like diesel, you can
extinguish a burning cigarette in a pool of it of you're not too slow,
but it burns very well indeed using a wick or some other way of
vapourising a small amount.

Isn't the flash point the temperature required to ignite the vapour? Which is presumably different to the temperature to evaporate it.

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:27:02 +0100, newshound wrote:

On 30/04/2012 19:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use
that instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...vent%20Ra nge



Sorted.

I bought a jerry can of petrol and tried burning them, but they kept
going out. So I took the easy option.

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden, tied
the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the ground. She
was particularly concerned that my car (or flying tree stump) was aiming
directly for her kitchen window. She took the dog for a walk while I did
it :-)

Glad it's sorted. Can't have been much of a tree stump in that case,
though (unless it was very rotten below ground). When it's the other way
round, a small tree can stop a surprisingly fast or heavy vehicle.

It's a 1.9 turbo diesel, and I took a good run at it. Snapped a tow rope and a chain before getting all 10 out. Automatic gearbox helps too.

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"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlhwxojytk5n5@i7-940...
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:06:58 +0100, dennis@home
wrote:



"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlgmza0ytk5n5@i7-940...


Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Put it under it and it will *warm up* and burn.

I suppose, but why do we need the flammable warning on that and not paper
(which is considerably easier to light)?

Have you tried holding a lighter above a piece of paper, its damn hard to
get it to burn.

White spirit won't burn?
 

"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlhyhcaytk5n5@i7-940...


Isn't the flash point the temperature required to ignite the vapour?
Which is presumably different to the temperature to evaporate it.

No that is a common misunderstanding.
Its the temperature at which an explosive vapour will form.
You still need an ignition source.
There are chemicals which will spontaneously combust near the flash point.

White spirit won't burn?
 

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:09:43 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:39:33 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:00 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 16:43:51 +0100, newshound
wrote:
On 30/04/2012 15:44, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use
that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side.
But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...=23&Group=Solv...



Yes it will. Flash point for standard white spirit is around 31 -
54 C
(Wikipedia) so you can't light a pool of it, but it will burn on a
wick,
like paraffin.

I placed a lit cigarette lighter above it, and even into it, but it
did not light.


You ARE a halfwit. Only the vapour will burn. No vapour, no fire.
Simples.

Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Until it gets to its flash point there is no vapour to burn. For white
spirit, the easiest way to get enough of it above its flash point so
that combustion can start is to use a wick. It's like diesel, you can
extinguish a burning cigarette in a pool of it of you're not too slow,
but it burns very well indeed using a wick or some other way of
vapourising a small amount.

Isn't the flash point the temperature required to ignite the vapour?
Which is presumably different to the temperature to evaporate it.

Wikilies shows its properties on this page:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit

The vapour pressure at 20C is very low, so there will be no vapour cloud
to ignite. Liquid hydrocarbons don't burn, it's the vapour that burns
and can be ignited at flash point temperature.

--
Tciao for Now!

John.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:45:23 +0100, dennis@home wrote:



"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlhwxojytk5n5@i7-940...
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:06:58 +0100, dennis@home
wrote:



"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlgmza0ytk5n5@i7-940...


Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Put it under it and it will *warm up* and burn.

I suppose, but why do we need the flammable warning on that and not paper
(which is considerably easier to light)?

Have you tried holding a lighter above a piece of paper, its damn hard to
get it to burn.

But touch the flame on the paper for an instant and it ignites. Didn't happen with the white spirit.

Meths lights easily, I assumed white spirit was similar.

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:47:20 +0100, dennis@home wrote:

"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
news:op.wdlhyhcaytk5n5@i7-940...

Isn't the flash point the temperature required to ignite the vapour?
Which is presumably different to the temperature to evaporate it.

No that is a common misunderstanding.
Its the temperature at which an explosive vapour will form.
You still need an ignition source.
There are chemicals which will spontaneously combust near the flash point.

Oh. According to Wikipedia, what I am thinking of is actually called "autoignition temperature".

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:48:42 +0100, John Williamson wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:09:43 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:39:33 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 8:00 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:



You ARE a halfwit. Only the vapour will burn. No vapour, no fire.
Simples.

Read again...... I placed a lit cigarette lighter ABOVE it.

Until it gets to its flash point there is no vapour to burn. For white
spirit, the easiest way to get enough of it above its flash point so
that combustion can start is to use a wick. It's like diesel, you can
extinguish a burning cigarette in a pool of it of you're not too slow,
but it burns very well indeed using a wick or some other way of
vapourising a small amount.

Isn't the flash point the temperature required to ignite the vapour?
Which is presumably different to the temperature to evaporate it.

Wikilies shows its properties on this page:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_spirit

The vapour pressure at 20C is very low, so there will be no vapour cloud
to ignite. Liquid hydrocarbons don't burn, it's the vapour that burns
and can be ignited at flash point temperature.

The temperature of the room was probably 15C.

What's the three temperatures they quote?: Low flash, regular, and high flash.

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White spirit won't burn?
 

On 30/04/2012 21:23, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 20:03, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:24:43 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 30/04/2012 17:11, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent


%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

Agreed; although you can also use one of those "chainsaw" disks in an
angle grinder!

Unfortunately my angle grinder is the small kind, it can't cut deep
enough through a big stump.

A stump grinder is rather like what I was proposing. You attack it from
one side and carry on until you are through to the other, having reduced
it all to chips. As others have said, usually the best approach is to
dig all the way round and sever the roots below ground level before
pulling it out. But you can't always do that, and this is where the
stump grinder comes in.

It was half a joke, actually, given that some of us like to use them to
solve all problems.
BTDTGTTS many times. DON'T use a chainsaw, ever! Do be patient and dig
around the roots with a trowel. A bowsaw is a good tool as is a
reciprocating saw with a suitable blade for tricky bits. Have an axe or
two and a 5' metal lever bar too. Even big ones only take a few hours of
patience. I don't imagine they can be burnt out except by building a big
bonfire and leaving it burning overnight.

Alternatively take the Baster Bates approach and blow the bu**ers up :-)

--
Pete
Lose (rhymes with fuse) is a verb, the opposite of find. Loose (rhymes
with juice) is an adjective, the opposite of tight.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:44:06 +0100
"Lieutenant Scott" wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:27:02 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 30/04/2012 19:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott
wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought
I'd use that instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It
won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But
it bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...vent%20Ra nge



Sorted.

I bought a jerry can of petrol and tried burning them, but they
kept going out. So I took the easy option.

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden,
tied the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the
ground. She was particularly concerned that my car (or flying tree
stump) was aiming directly for her kitchen window. She took the
dog for a walk while I did it :-)

Glad it's sorted. Can't have been much of a tree stump in that case,
though (unless it was very rotten below ground). When it's the
other way round, a small tree can stop a surprisingly fast or heavy
vehicle.

It's a 1.9 turbo diesel, and I took a good run at it. Snapped a tow
rope and a chain before getting all 10 out. Automatic gearbox helps
too.


Remind me not to buy a car from you.
--
Davey.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:58:37 +0100, "Lieutenant Scott"
wrote:

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden, tied the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the ground.

****'s sake.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Apr 30, 9:23*pm, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 20:03, Lieutenant Scott wrote:



On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:24:43 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 30/04/2012 17:11, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent

%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

Agreed; although you can also use one of those "chainsaw" disks in an
angle grinder!

Unfortunately my angle grinder is the small kind, it can't cut deep
enough through a big stump.

A stump grinder is rather like what I was proposing. You attack it from
one side and carry on until you are through to the other, having reduced
it all to chips. As others have said, usually the best approach is to
dig all the way round and sever the roots below ground level before
pulling it out. But you can't always do that, and this is where the
stump grinder comes in.

It was half a joke, actually, given that some of us like to use them to
solve all problems.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before that, one should cut trees off four or five feet above ground
level to give some leverage to get the stump out.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Apr 30, 9:44*pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:27:02 +0100, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 19:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use
that instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...=23&Group=Solv...

Sorted.

I bought a jerry can of petrol and tried burning them, but they kept
going out. So I took the easy option.

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden, tied
the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the ground. She
was particularly concerned that my car (or flying tree stump) was aiming
directly for her kitchen window. She took the dog for a walk while I did
it :-)

Glad it's sorted. Can't have been much of a tree stump in that case,
though (unless it was very rotten below ground). When it's the other way
round, a small tree can stop a surprisingly fast or heavy vehicle.

It's a 1.9 turbo diesel, and I took a good run at it. *Snapped a tow rope and a chain before getting all 10 out. *Automatic gearbox helps too.

You're lucky you didn't break something.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Apr 30, 9:47*pm, "dennis@home"
wrote:
"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message

news:op.wdlhyhcaytk5n5@i7-940...

Isn't the flash point the temperature required to ignite the vapour?
Which is presumably different to the temperature to evaporate it.

No that is a common misunderstanding.
Its the temperature at which an explosive vapour will form.
You still need an ignition source.
There are chemicals which will spontaneously combust near the flash point..


Burning paper is "destructive distillation". A breakdown process has
to be initiated before flammable vapour is given off.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Tue, 01 May 2012 07:22:33 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 9:23 pm, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 20:03, Lieutenant Scott wrote:



On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:24:43 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 30/04/2012 17:11, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to
get it
going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use that
instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...&Group=Solvent

%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

Agreed; although you can also use one of those "chainsaw" disks in an
angle grinder!

Unfortunately my angle grinder is the small kind, it can't cut deep
enough through a big stump.

A stump grinder is rather like what I was proposing. You attack it from
one side and carry on until you are through to the other, having reduced
it all to chips. As others have said, usually the best approach is to
dig all the way round and sever the roots below ground level before
pulling it out. But you can't always do that, and this is where the
stump grinder comes in.

It was half a joke, actually, given that some of us like to use them to
solve all problems.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Before that, one should cut trees off four or five feet above ground
level to give some leverage to get the stump out.

6 inches was enough when using a VW Golf 1.9TDI automatic.

--
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http://petersphotos.com

I imposed a declaration in opposition to your motion to modify the preliminary injunction in support of the cross motion to vacate the preliminary injunction. So noted by the Federal Court of Justice proceeding preliminary declaration.

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Tue, 01 May 2012 07:24:04 +0100, harry wrote:

On Apr 30, 9:44 pm, "Lieutenant Scott" wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:27:02 +0100, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 19:58, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

I was going to burn down some tree stumps aided by some petrol to get
it going. Having a bottle of white spirit to hand I thought I'd use
that instead of going to the garage to get petrol. It won't light!!!!

This is the exact product, and it says flammable on the side. But it
bloody well isn't.

http://www.bartoline.co.uk/products_...=23&Group=Solv...

Sorted.

I bought a jerry can of petrol and tried burning them, but they kept
going out. So I took the easy option.

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden, tied
the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the ground. She
was particularly concerned that my car (or flying tree stump) was aiming
directly for her kitchen window. She took the dog for a walk while I did
it :-)

Glad it's sorted. Can't have been much of a tree stump in that case,
though (unless it was very rotten below ground). When it's the other way
round, a small tree can stop a surprisingly fast or heavy vehicle.

It's a 1.9 turbo diesel, and I took a good run at it. Snapped a tow rope and a chain before getting all 10 out. Automatic gearbox helps too..

You're lucky you didn't break something.

Like what?

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

Paddy calls Easyjet to book a flight.
The operator asks "How many people are flying with you?"
Paddy replies "I don't know! Its your flipping plane!"

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Tue, 01 May 2012 00:12:12 +0100, wrote:

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:58:37 +0100, "Lieutenant Scott"
wrote:

To my neighbour's horror, I reversed the car into the back garden, tied the tree stumps to the towbar, and yanked them out of the ground.

****'s sake.

It worked. And considerably faster than doing it by hand.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

Why do I have to wear a shirt and tie to go in a bar to see a topless dancer?

White spirit won't burn?
 

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:43:41 +0100, Pete Shew wrote:

On 30/04/2012 21:23, newshound wrote:
On 30/04/2012 20:03, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 17:24:43 +0100, newshound
wrote:

On 30/04/2012 17:11, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 15:44:47 +0100, Lieutenant Scott wrote:


%20Range

as someone who has BTDTGTT I suggest you get a decent ax, pick, and
shovel, expose the roots around the stump, and chop it out.

Agreed; although you can also use one of those "chainsaw" disks in an
angle grinder!

Unfortunately my angle grinder is the small kind, it can't cut deep
enough through a big stump.

A stump grinder is rather like what I was proposing. You attack it from
one side and carry on until you are through to the other, having reduced
it all to chips. As others have said, usually the best approach is to
dig all the way round and sever the roots below ground level before
pulling it out. But you can't always do that, and this is where the
stump grinder comes in.

It was half a joke, actually, given that some of us like to use them to
solve all problems.
BTDTGTTS many times. DON'T use a chainsaw, ever! Do be patient and dig
around the roots with a trowel. A bowsaw is a good tool as is a
reciprocating saw with a suitable blade for tricky bits. Have an axe or
two and a 5' metal lever bar too. Even big ones only take a few hours of
patience. I don't imagine they can be burnt out except by building a big
bonfire and leaving it burning overnight.

HOURS of patience?!?!?!? No way. They came up pretty quick with the car towing them out.

Alternatively take the Baster Bates approach and blow the bu**ers up :-)

I was considering it.

--
http://petersparrots.com
http://petersphotos.com

Isn't Disney World a people trap operated by a mouse?