OT The 1970s
 

On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:21:29 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"ARWadsworth" wrote:

BBC2 tonight at 9.00pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01glsyl

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2012/04/the-70s.shtml

It might be of interest to some posters. I did say it was OT.
I count myself fortunate to have been living overseas for the whole of
the 70s. Looks like it was Britain's ****tiest decade ever.
Am I the only one that knows that Britain has been bankrupt since the
end of WW2?

Technically, Britain isn't bankrupt at the moment, as we are owed about
100 Billion dollars more by other contries than we owe them.

Unless you're talking about moral bankruptcy, in which case it started
in the 1920s, according to some, and the 1960s according to others.

Wasn't it the 1980s when Thatcher said it was OK to do do anything you
could get away with to succeed.
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

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Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:21:29 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"ARWadsworth" wrote:

BBC2 tonight at 9.00pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01glsyl

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2012/04/the-70s.shtml

It might be of interest to some posters. I did say it was OT.
I count myself fortunate to have been living overseas for the
whole of the 70s. Looks like it was Britain's ****tiest decade
ever.
Am I the only one that knows that Britain has been bankrupt
since the end of WW2?

Technically, Britain isn't bankrupt at the moment, as we are owed
about 100 Billion dollars more by other contries than we owe them.

Unless you're talking about moral bankruptcy, in which case it
started in the 1920s, according to some, and the 1960s according to
others.
Wasn't it the 1980s when Thatcher said it was OK to do do anything you
could get away with to succeed.
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

I liked the 80's:-)

--
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"Hugh - Was Invisible" wrote in message
news:op.wcvoeiz8gtk8fg@hugh-lap...

Wasn't it the 1980s when Thatcher said it was OK to do do anything you
could get away with to succeed.
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

I bet you think she was an alien lizard that got the alien lizard running
Argentina to invade.

OT The 1970s
 

Hugh - Was Invisible wrote
John Williamson wrote
Mr Pounder wrote
Tim Streater wrote
ARWadsworth wrote

BBC2 tonight at 9.00pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01glsyl

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2012/04/the-70s.shtml

It might be of interest to some posters. I did say it was OT.

I count myself fortunate to have been living overseas for the whole of
the 70s. Looks like it was Britain's ****tiest decade ever.

Am I the only one that knows that Britain has been bankrupt since the
end of WW2?

Technically, Britain isn't bankrupt at the moment, as we are owed about
100 Billion dollars more by other contries than we owe them.

Unless you're talking about moral bankruptcy, in which case it started
in the 1920s, according to some, and the 1960s according to others.

Wasn't it the 1980s when Thatcher said it was OK to do do anything you
could get away with to succeed.

She never said that.

She was heading for a huge election defeat

Yes.

until she manufactured the Falklands War.

That's a lie.

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Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 20:21:29 +0100, John Williamson
wrote:

Mr Pounder wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"ARWadsworth" wrote:

BBC2 tonight at 9.00pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01glsyl

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2012/04/the-70s.shtml

It might be of interest to some posters. I did say it was OT.
I count myself fortunate to have been living overseas for the whole
of the 70s. Looks like it was Britain's ****tiest decade ever.
Am I the only one that knows that Britain has been bankrupt since
the end of WW2?

Technically, Britain isn't bankrupt at the moment, as we are owed
about 100 Billion dollars more by other contries than we owe them.

Unless you're talking about moral bankruptcy, in which case it started
in the 1920s, according to some, and the 1960s according to others.

Wasn't it the 1980s when Thatcher said it was OK to do do anything you
could get away with to succeed.

and then Tony Blair took her advice..

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.


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To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

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On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
....
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds and
ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time, is where
most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.

Colin Bignell

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 14:02:01 +0100, Nightjar wrote:

On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds and
ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time, is where
most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.

Colin Bignell

If you discount the military and mineral implications, I guess so.

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Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not Italian.

--
Adam

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Owain wrote:
On Apr 17, 2:13 pm, Tim Streater wrote:
It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds and
ask them to relocated to a Scottish island,
And if you feel that ethnic cleansing is OK.

For a million quid I think I'd be willing to be ethnically cleansed to
a Scottish island.


For a million quid I wouldn't need to be ethnically cleansed. Id move
somewhere warm.

Especially now with broadband and Amazon.

Owain



--
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

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On 17/04/2012 14:59, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

For a million quid I wouldn't need to be ethnically cleansed. Id move
somewhere warm.


Like Argentina?

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In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
For a million quid I wouldn't need to be ethnically cleansed. Id move
somewhere warm.

You implied you were already a millionaire?

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To e-mail, change noise into sound.

OT The 1970s
 

In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds and
ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time, is where
most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.

Scottish Islands don't have penguins, so they'd have had to come too.

--
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OT The 1970s
 

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
For a million quid I wouldn't need to be ethnically cleansed. Id move
somewhere warm.

You implied you were already a millionaire?

yes but I would now be worth 2million.


--
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

OT The 1970s
 

In article ,
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
You implied you were already a millionaire?

yes but I would now be worth 2million.

Depends what you mean by worth.

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Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

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On 17/04/2012 14:24, ARWadsworth wrote:
Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to leave the
islanders to their fate, if that had been the politically best policy
and if the geology of the seabed around the Falklands were not very
similar to that of the North Sea oil fields.

Colin Bignell

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:21:39 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You implied you were already a millionaire?

yes but I would now be worth 2million.

Depends what you mean by worth.

Quite. With a very similar house to your own just down the road on
the market for 1.1 million Mr Plowman you are quite likely to be a
"millionaire" as well. These days it's not all that hard to be one.

--
Cheers
Dave.

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On 17/04/2012 19:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:

On 17/04/2012 14:24, ARWadsworth wrote:
Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to leave
the islanders to their fate, if that had been the politically best
policy and if the geology of the seabed around the Falklands were not
very similar to that of the North Sea oil fields.

Don't be silly. She'd have lasted five minutes in office with a policy
like that.

I did say if it had been politically the best policy, which obviously it
was not.

You're also seriously misreading her character.

Nobody gets to be PM without a serious lust for power.

Colin Bignell

OT The 1970s
 

Bob Eager wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat
until she manufactured the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time, is
where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.

If you discount the military and mineral implications, I guess so.

There were no military implications.

OT The 1970s
 

Tim Streater wrote
Bob Eager wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds and
ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time, is where
most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.

If you discount the military and mineral implications, I guess so.

And if you feel that ethnic cleansing is OK.

It wouldnt have been ethnic cleansing, some would have chosen to
stay just like some did when HongKong was handed back to China.

OT The 1970s
 

On 17/04/12 17:20, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 16:21:39 +0100, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

You implied you were already a millionaire?

yes but I would now be worth 2million.

Depends what you mean by worth.

Quite. With a very similar house to your own just down the road on
the market for 1.1 million Mr Plowman you are quite likely to be a
"millionaire" as well. These days it's not all that hard to be one.

Not so long ago a million would buy you somewhere nice to live and still
leave enough in the bank to live an affluent life. Now the interest on a
million is a comfortable income but certainly would not fund a
millionaires lifestyle. These days you need something like an *income*
of a million per year (and assured for more than just a couple of peak
earning years) to live like a millionaire.


--
djc

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"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 17/04/2012 19:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:

On 17/04/2012 14:24, ARWadsworth wrote:
Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to leave
the islanders to their fate, if that had been the politically best
policy and if the geology of the seabed around the Falklands were not
very similar to that of the North Sea oil fields.

Don't be silly. She'd have lasted five minutes in office with a policy
like that.

I did say if it had been politically the best policy, which obviously it
was not.

You're also seriously misreading her character.

Nobody gets to be PM without a serious lust for power.

Thats not right, some end up PM by default like Major did.

OT The 1970s
 

"Tim Streater" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Rod Speed" wrote:

Tim Streater wrote
Bob Eager wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.

If you discount the military and mineral implications, I guess so.

And if you feel that ethnic cleansing is OK.

It wouldnt have been ethnic cleansing, some would have chosen to
stay just like some did when HongKong was handed back to China.

Difference is that HK was full of Chinese. No Argentinians living on the
Falklands, and never have been.

Irrelevant to whether some would have chosen to stay.

Plenty had their kids educated in Argy schools etc so they
would likely have chosen to stay under new ownership, just
like happened with HongKong.

OT The 1970s
 

On 17/04/2012 21:35, Rod Speed wrote:


"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 17/04/2012 19:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:

On 17/04/2012 14:24, ARWadsworth wrote:
Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to leave
the islanders to their fate, if that had been the politically best
policy and if the geology of the seabed around the Falklands were not
very similar to that of the North Sea oil fields.

Don't be silly. She'd have lasted five minutes in office with a policy
like that.

I did say if it had been politically the best policy, which obviously
it was not.

You're also seriously misreading her character.

Nobody gets to be PM without a serious lust for power.

Thats not right, some end up PM by default like Major did.

Your argument being that he didn't want it?

Colin Bignell

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:34:30 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

No Argentinians living on the
Falklands, and never have been.

Bingo.
Got it in one.
After all, the islands are what, 250 miles away from Argentina?
It's just geography and they can go **** themselves.

I wasn't in favour of the Falklands War, the way it had been brought
about, but I wasn't in favour of some bunch of wogs taking the islands
over by force.

OT The 1970s
 

Nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nightjar wrote
Tim Streater wrote
Nightjar wrote
ARWadsworth wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands
were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to leave
the islanders to their fate, if that had been the politically best
policy and if the geology of the seabed around the Falklands were not
very similar to that of the North Sea oil fields.

Don't be silly. She'd have lasted five minutes in office with a policy
like that.

I did say if it had been politically the best policy, which obviously
it was not.

You're also seriously misreading her character.

Nobody gets to be PM without a serious lust for power.

Thats not right, some end up PM by default like Major did.

Your argument being that he didn't want it?

No, that he didnt have a serious lust for power,
just ended up PM once Maggie got assassinated.

OT The 1970s
 

OT The 1970s
 

"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million pounds and
ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the time, is where
most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands were.

Colin Bignell

Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the channel
islands.

OT The 1970s
 

On 17/04/2012 23:42, Rod Speed wrote:
Nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nightjar wrote
Tim Streater wrote
Nightjar wrote
ARWadsworth wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the
time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands
were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not
Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to leave
the islanders to their fate, if that had been the politically best
policy and if the geology of the seabed around the Falklands were not
very similar to that of the North Sea oil fields.

Don't be silly. She'd have lasted five minutes in office with a policy
like that.

I did say if it had been politically the best policy, which obviously
it was not.

You're also seriously misreading her character.

Nobody gets to be PM without a serious lust for power.

Thats not right, some end up PM by default like Major did.

Your argument being that he didn't want it?

No, that he didnt have a serious lust for power,
just ended up PM once Maggie got assassinated.

You can't see that, without a lust for power, he would not have been in
a position to become PM, whatever the circumstances of actually getting
there? Maggie might have been more ruthless than most, but even failed
pretenders don't get to that level of government without wanting power.

Colin Bignell

OT The 1970s
 

Nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nightjar wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Nightjar wrote
Tim Streater wrote
Nightjar wrote
ARWadsworth wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds
and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at the
time,
is where most people in Britain probably thought the Falklands
were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not
Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to leave
the islanders to their fate, if that had been the politically best
policy and if the geology of the seabed around the Falklands were
not
very similar to that of the North Sea oil fields.

Don't be silly. She'd have lasted five minutes in office with a
policy
like that.

I did say if it had been politically the best policy, which obviously
it was not.

You're also seriously misreading her character.

Nobody gets to be PM without a serious lust for power.

Thats not right, some end up PM by default like Major did.

Your argument being that he didn't want it?

No, that he didnt have a serious lust for power,
just ended up PM once Maggie got assassinated.

You can't see that, without a lust for power, he would not have been in a
position to become PM, whatever the circumstances of actually getting
there?

Thats fantasy. He only got to be PM because of the **** fight
between those who did lust for power and assassinated Maggie.

. Maggie might have been more ruthless than most, but even failed
pretenders don't get to that level of government without wanting power.

Major wasnt a failed pretender.

OT The 1970s
 

Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 21:35, Rod Speed wrote:


"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 17/04/2012 19:04, Tim Streater wrote:
In article ,
Nightjar wrote:

On 17/04/2012 14:24, ARWadsworth wrote:
Nightjar wrote:
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a
million pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish
island, which, at the time, is where most people in
Britain probably thought the Falklands were.


That's called surrender in my dictionary. And Mrs T was not
Italian.

I have little doubt that she would have been quite willing to
leave the islanders to their fate, if that had been the
politically best policy and if the geology of the seabed
around the Falklands were not very similar to that of the
North Sea oil fields.

Don't be silly. She'd have lasted five minutes in office with a
policy like that.

I did say if it had been politically the best policy, which
obviously it was not.

You're also seriously misreading her character.

Nobody gets to be PM without a serious lust for power.

That's not right, some end up PM by default like Major did.

Your argument being that he didn't want it?


He gave it to Edwina:-)

--
Adam

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Mr Pounder wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at
the time, is where most people in Britain probably thought the
Falklands were. Colin Bignell

Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the channel
islands.

And had the Falklands fallen then Gibraltar would have been next.

--
Adam

OT The 1970s
 

ARWadsworth wrote
Mr Pounder wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured the
Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at
the time, is where most people in Britain probably thought the
Falklands were. Colin Bignell

Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the channel
islands.

And had the Falklands fallen

That wouldn’t have happened. The yanks were keeping
an eye on what was happening and would have ****ed
over the Argys if there had been any possibility of that.

Turned out the Argys were so completely ****ing
hopeless that the yanks werent needed.

then Gibraltar would have been next.

Nope.

OT The 1970s
 

ARWadsworth wrote:
Mr Pounder wrote:
"Nightjar" wrote in message
...
On 17/04/2012 01:24, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:
...
She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured the Falklands War.
*shrug* takes two to tango.
It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at
the time, is where most people in Britain probably thought the
Falklands were. Colin Bignell
Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the channel
islands.

And had the Falklands fallen then Gibraltar would have been next.

And the finniest thing is, that is Spain as well as us the Argies are
****ing over this time.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today...00/9714254.stm


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To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

OT The 1970s
 

Rod Speed wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote
Mr Pounder wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at
the time, is where most people in Britain probably thought the
Falklands were. Colin Bignell

Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the
channel islands.

And had the Falklands fallen

That wouldn’t have happened. The yanks were keeping
an eye on what was happening and would have ****ed
over the Argys if there had been any possibility of that.

In your dreams.


--
Adam

OT The 1970s
 

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote
Mr Pounder wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a million
pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish island, which, at
the time, is where most people in Britain probably thought the
Falklands were. Colin Bignell

Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the
channel islands.

And had the Falklands fallen

That wouldn’t have happened. The yanks were keeping
an eye on what was happening and would have ****ed
over the Argys if there had been any possibility of that.

In your dreams.

Nope, it’s a fact. That was Raygun and Maggie, don’t forget.

OT The 1970s
 

Rod Speed wrote:
"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
Rod Speed wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote
Mr Pounder wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she
manufactured the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a
million pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish
island, which, at the time, is where most people in Britain
probably thought the Falklands were. Colin Bignell

Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the
channel islands.

And had the Falklands fallen

That wouldn’t have happened. The yanks were keeping
an eye on what was happening and would have ****ed
over the Argys if there had been any possibility of that.

In your dreams.

Nope, it’s a fact. That was Raygun and Maggie, don’t forget.

No. They would have left us in the ****. Raygun liked mad military
dictatorships in South America.

And TBH the decision to retake the Falklands was probably not Thatchers.

--
Adam

OT The 1970s
 

ARWadsworth wrote
Rod Speed wrote
ARWadsworth wrote
Rod Speed wrote
ARWadsworth wrote
Mr Pounder wrote
Nightjar wrote
The Natural Philosopher wrote
Hugh - Was Invisible wrote

She was heading for a huge election defeat until she manufactured
the Falklands War.

*shrug* takes two to tango.

It would have been cheaper to give every inhabitant a
million pounds and ask them to relocated to a Scottish
island, which, at the time, is where most people in Britain
probably thought the Falklands were. Colin Bignell

Ha!
At the time a mate of mine said that the wops had invaded the channel
islands.

And had the Falklands fallen

That wouldn’t have happened. The yanks were keeping
an eye on what was happening and would have ****ed
over the Argys if there had been any possibility of that.

In your dreams.

Nope, it’s a fact. That was Raygun and Maggie, don’t forget.

No.

Fraid so.

They would have left us in the ****.

Fantasy. That was the time when they ****ed over Grenada
just go give the yanks some practice at a real live fire exercise
and with Nicaragua in spades.

Raygun liked mad military dictatorships in South America.

He wanted to **** Maggy even more.

And TBH the decision to retake the Falklands was probably not Thatchers.

Pigs arse it wasn’t.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falklan...itish_response

OT The 1970s
 

Tim Streater wrote:

Nope, it,s a fact. That was Raygun and Maggie, don,t forget.

No. They would have left us in the ****. Raygun liked mad military
dictatorships in South America.

And TBH the decision to retake the Falklands was probably not
Thatchers.

So whose was it then?

The Army. OK, so she made the decision to retake, but they had the final say
IYKWIM.


--
Adam

OT The 1970s
 

On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 20:35:09 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

In article ,
"ARWadsworth" wrote:

Tim Streater wrote:

Nope, it,s a fact. That was Raygun and Maggie, don,t forget.

No. They would have left us in the ****. Raygun liked mad military
dictatorships in South America.

And TBH the decision to retake the Falklands was probably not
Thatchers.

So whose was it then?

The Army. OK, so she made the decision to retake, but they had the final say
IYKWIM.

Well only in the sense that they had to agree whether it was feasible or
not.

Hastings & Jenkins (the Battle for the Falklands, 1983) suggest that
the decision-making process might have been more muddled and that
unauthorised decisions made by the navy might have paved the way for
later actions.

The Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary made the decision to send
nuclear-powered submarines on March 29th. The First Sea Lord and Chief
of the Navy Staff, Admiral Sir Henry Leach started assembling a task
force from the 31st and in the early hours of Friday, April 2nd, as
the Argentine fleet was moving into position off East Falkland, he
issued the directive that the task force was to be made ready and
sailed.

As Hastings and Jenkins say: "It is perhaps no more than a
constitutional curiosity that at this stage such an expedition had
been approved by neither the British cabinet nor the British
Parliament."

Nick

OT The 1970s
 

Nick Odell wrote
Tim Streater wrote
ARWadsworth wrote
Tim Streater wrote
ARWadsworth wrote
Rod Speed wrote

Nope, it,s a fact. That was Raygun and Maggie, don,t forget.

No. They would have left us in the ****. Raygun liked mad military
dictatorships in South America.

And TBH the decision to retake the Falklands was probably not
Thatchers.

So whose was it then?

The Army. OK, so she made the decision to retake, but they had the final
say IYKWIM.

Well only in the sense that they had to agree whether it was feasible or
not.

Hastings & Jenkins (the Battle for the Falklands, 1983) suggest that
the decision-making process might have been more muddled and that
unauthorised decisions made by the navy might have paved the way for
later actions.

ALL that really did was get hardware moving towards the Falklands
quickly in case Thatcher decided to **** over the Argys. The Navy
doesn't get to decide whether to go to war by itself.

The Prime Minister and the Foreign Secretary made the
decision to send nuclear-powered submarines on March 29th.

And that again was just moving hardware around so it could be
used if it was decided to use it given the long time it takes to get
that sort of hardware where it could be used to **** over the Argys.

The First Sea Lord and Chief of the Navy Staff, Admiral Sir
Henry Leach started assembling a task force from the 31st

After Maggie had clearly decided to move hardware around so
it could be used there if it was decided that to **** over the Argys.

and in the early hours of Friday, April 2nd, as the Argentine
fleet was moving into position off East Falkland, he issued the
directive that the task force was to be made ready and sailed.

That's just the detail, not the important decision to use it.

As Hastings and Jenkins say: "It is perhaps no more than a
constitutional curiosity that at this stage such an expedition had
been approved by neither the British cabinet nor the British
Parliament."

It didn't have to be approved by either. USE of it to
**** over the Argys did require that permission tho.

So did the separate decision to sink the Belgrano too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Gen...lgrano#Sinking