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Bandsaw tyres
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I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Cheers NT |
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"NT" wrote in message ... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. |
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On Apr 15, 8:20*pm, "dennis@home"
wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. The other question is how to profile it, will rubber file ok? NT |
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"NT" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 8:20 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. I don't understand. Why can't you stretch a circle from a rubber inner tube over a wheel? The other question is how to profile it, will rubber file ok? I don't know what profile you want so i can't help. |
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On Apr 15, 9:43*pm, "dennis@home"
wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 8:20 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "NT" wrote in message .... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. I don't understand. Why can't you stretch a circle from a rubber inner tube over a wheel? its a 6" wheel. The other question is how to profile it, will rubber file ok? I don't know what profile you want so i can't help. |
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"NT" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 9:43 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 8:20 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. I don't understand. Why can't you stretch a circle from a rubber inner tube over a wheel? its a 6" wheel. Well I know getting a car inner tube small enough to fit may be a problem but if you cut a circle out of it in a radial direction its going to be about 6" in diameter. Its not like cutting around the circumference and getting one 24" in diameter. |
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"dennis@home" wrote in message ... "NT" wrote in message ... On Apr 15, 8:20 pm, "dennis@home" wrote: "NT" wrote in message ... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. I don't understand. Why can't you stretch a circle from a rubber inner tube over a wheel? The other question is how to profile it, will rubber file ok? I don't know what profile you want so i can't help. Presumably he needs a 'D' cross-section to keep the blade on. |
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On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), NT wrote:
Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. Inner tube cut into short cylinders like large rubber bands. Select size of inner tube to be a little (FSVO little) smaller than the wheels The other question is how to profile it, will rubber file ok? Would you need to profile it? The teeth sticky out teeth will just sink into the rubber or will than stop the thing running true? -- Cheers Dave. |
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On Apr 15, 10:00*pm, "Dave Liquorice"
wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), NT wrote: Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. Inner tube cut into short cylinders like large rubber bands. Select size of inner tube to be a little (FSVO little) smaller than the wheels The other question is how to profile it, will rubber file ok? Would you need to profile it? The teeth sticky out teeth will just sink into the rubber or will than stop the thing running true? A ( shaped profile is essential, else the blade doesnt centre itself on the wheels, and just drops off one side. The camber is the only thing that keeps belts on many belt drive systems. Now I know how to get the circles, ty. NT |
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On Apr 15, 10:00 pm, "Dave Liquorice" wrote: On Sun, 15 Apr 2012 12:54:21 -0700 (PDT), NT wrote: Old car/bike tyre inner tube cut into sections and stretched over. I could glue that, but not also stretch it, unless you know some sort of clamp I dont. Inner tube cut into short cylinders like large rubber bands. Select size of inner tube to be a little (FSVO little) smaller than the wheels The other question is how to profile it, will rubber file ok? Would you need to profile it? The teeth sticky out teeth will just sink into the rubber or will than stop the thing running true? A ( shaped profile is essential, else the blade doesnt centre itself on the wheels, and just drops off one side. The camber is the only thing that keeps belts on many belt drive systems. Now I know how to get the circles, ty. NT Use motor cycle tubes, Many people use tube rubber for tires on bandsaws wit no problem, it is a standard quick fix. |
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"NT" wrote in message ... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Cheers Sounds like you know how to a bandsaw. Have you read Mark Duginske's Bandsaw Handbook. This was recommended to me following a post on this ng some while ago. Cost the magnificent sum of two quid iirc from Amazon. A real eye opener. Definitely highly recommended. I had a problem with a somewhat larger two wheel band saw. After reading this book and some minor modifications/rectifications it now now runs perfectly well. I spoke with a well known provider of band saw blades (who has great experience of bandsaws) about new tyres. He couldn't help on this but ventured that cork strip had been used successfully in his experience. This by fb from his clients. However, where have the three original tyres on your machine gone? To me this would indicate a problem within the machine. It might be preferable to fix any problem before administering a cure. Adhesive: dunno, I might try evostik (the old fashioned variety) which would work. This def not water based. The blade teeth are not meant to hang over the edge of the wheels. BAH, I must read OP's more thoroughly. I retract the first line of this, my, reply. If the wheels are six inch dia. and plastic I think it very unlikely that the wheels were ever fitted with any tyres. Generally the wheels (and tyres if fitted) are either flat or have a very slight camber. This allows a well adjusted machine to run the blade to the centre of the wheels. There are, as with other things, too many variables. So to bed. Nick. |
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On Apr 15, 10:22*pm, "Nick" wrote:
"NT" wrote in message ... Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Cheers Sounds like you know how to a bandsaw. Have you read Mark Duginske's Bandsaw Handbook. This was recommended to me following a post on this ng some while ago. Cost the magnificent sum of two quid iirc from Amazon. A real eye opener. Definitely highly recommended. Thank you, I'll look that up. I had a problem with a somewhat larger two wheel band saw. After reading this book and some minor modifications/rectifications it now now runs perfectly well. I spoke with a well known provider of band saw blades (who has great experience of bandsaws) about new tyres. He couldn't help on this but ventured that cork strip had been used successfully in his experience. This by fb from his clients. I gather there are 3 types of tyres in use: rubberised cork, rubber, and polysomethingorother. However, where have the three original tyres on your machine gone? To me this would indicate a problem within the machine. It might be preferable to fix any problem before administering a cure. The only problem I'm finding is that the blade wont sit flat on the wheels. The wheel design makes this inevitable, and the blade alignment's a fair way out because of it. There's no way to tweak it to make it work ok as is, it needs either tyres or filing. Adhesive: dunno, I might try evostik (the old fashioned variety) which would work. This def not water based. I realised if I use stretched rubber it shouldnt need adhesive. The blade teeth are not meant to hang over the edge of the wheels. no. it would fix the alignment problem though. BAH, I must read OP's more thoroughly. I retract the first line of this, my, reply. If the wheels are six inch dia. and plastic I think it very unlikely that the wheels were ever fitted with any tyres. yup Generally the wheels (and tyres if fitted) are either flat or have a very slight camber. This allows a well adjusted machine to run the blade to the centre of the wheels. There are, as with other things, too many variables. So to bed. Nick. There are rollers on the back of the blade as usual, but nothing on the teeth side to stop it falling off, so the wheels need some camber. NT |
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NT wrote:
Hi folks I need 3 new bandsaw tyres for an old machine - it has no tyres on, which is stopping the blade from sitting flat. I've seen the prices online, and am sure I can do something for a small fraction of that, and get it much quicker that via the post. Any suggestions? I thought of vac cleaner belts, but not the cheapest option. Where would I get a roll of rubber strip? And what could I glue it on with? (Prefer water based to solvent) The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Cheers NT Cut suitable car tire inner tube into bands. |
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Hello out out there! -- I have a Woodwise band saw that would benefit from new drive tyres but I am told by Poolewood that the tyres are not availible foe 13.5 inch wheels -- any sugestions? gl The only other option is to grind down the edges of the wheels so the sawblade teeth hang over the edges, thus it can sit flat again. I dont know how good an idea this is. The wheels are plastic, and about 6" dia, Cheers NT |
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On 14/02/2014 17:35, wrote:
Hello out out there! -- I have a Woodwise band saw that would benefit from new drive tyres but I am told by Poolewood that the tyres are not availible foe 13.5 inch wheels -- any sugestions? I expect the 12" ones available on ebay etc would stretch... failing that, try one of the US suppliers that ship here. E.g.: http://r.ebay.com/pVnGvg Or talk to a blade supplier. -- Cheers, John. /================================================== ===============\ | Internode Ltd - http://www.internode.co.uk | |-----------------------------------------------------------------| | John Rumm - john(at)internode(dot)co(dot)uk | \================================================= ================/ |
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On Friday, February 14, 2014 7:47:27 PM UTC, John Rumm wrote:
On 14/02/2014 17:35, gmail.com wrote: Hello out out there! -- I have a Woodwise band saw that would benefit from new drive tyres but I am told by Poolewood that the tyres are not availible foe 13.5 inch wheels -- any sugestions? I expect the 12" ones available on ebay etc would stretch... failing that, try one of the US suppliers that ship here. E.g.: http://r.ebay.com/pVnGvg Or talk to a blade supplier. ouch. inner tube NT |
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