On Dec 12, 7:17*pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:
ISTR 50ppm but I did not often phone her. My Mum was in the hospital next to
the hotel that I was rewiring and I used to pass the hour between finishing
work and start of visiting hours in room 42 of the hotel with one of the
waitresses.


Presumably she was showing you where to put your ducting? :-)

Matt

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 04:34:40 -0800 (PST), larkim
wrote:

On Dec 12, 7:17*pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:
ISTR 50ppm but I did not often phone her. My Mum was in the hospital next to
the hotel that I was rewiring and I used to pass the hour between finishing
work and start of visiting hours in room 42 of the hotel with one of the
waitresses.


Presumably she was showing you where to put your ducting? :-)

In room 69, presumably.

in 1088410 20111213 090043 Mike Barnes wrote:
Hugh - Was Invisible :
I despair of people at work who kept stuff on their local drive and
relatives who have all their photos on one standalone computer.

Agreed. For many years backup was difficult and expensive. But nowadays
there are no excuses.

I have a relative who had over 2-years-worth of photos just on her camera
(including 2 weddings), I asked what she would do when the memory card
was full; she said "buy another one".

On Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:04:49 -0000, Martin wrote:

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:41:21 +0000, Terry Fields
wrote:


Hugh - Was Invisible wrote:

Hi All. Off topic but there is so much knowledge here ....

93 year old Mum goes in to hospital on Sunday. Sim free mobile (Doro
332)
is on its way.

Mum will only want a sim for calls. Will have moderate use whilst in
hospital for a few days and then be used only for emergencies.

I am having a lot of difficulty finding out how long credit and sim
lasts
if unused.

Anyone got any recommendations please?

Hospital has reception problems with t-mobile and orange but 02 and
Vodafone based networks are OK

TIA for any replies.

My MiL wanted a mobile phone for emergencies, and she's 85. I went
with a free SIM from 3 - apparently any credit never expires (it
certainly hasn't on our 3 dongle, anyway, which is used sporadically).

We've had Vodafone credit expire after three months.
O2 and Virgin credit doesn't appear to expire

Asda paperwork says 1 call or text etc every 3 months required

On 12/12/11 12:21, tony sayer wrote:

Worth checking reception as although offering good deals, 3 have serious
reception issues is more rural areas.

ASDA mobile don't expire also, and are pretty cheap.

In the 5 rural areas I frequent, 3 have the best reception. In most of these
rural areas there's no 3G signal at all from Vodafone or O2, and in one of
them there's no signal of any kind from O2.


Can you say where this is?. Be useful when I'm having arguments re phone
coverage that some seem to think covers every square inch of olde
Englande;!...

Some of these areas are in olde Wales...

I think if you just want good voice coverage then the networks are much of a
muchness - O2 and Vodafone have some advantage as their GSM networks operate
at 900Mhz whereas Orange/t-Mobile operate at 1800Mhz. Orange and t-Mobile
have therefore had to build more base stations to provide the same amount of
coverage. Where 3G is concerned, however, all networks operate at 2100Mhz.
Because most networks just added 3G capability to their existing base
stations, Orange and t-mobile were at an advantage as they already had more
base stations in locations better suited to the higher frequencies. 3 have
built a 3G network from scratch and in the industry it is regarded as the
most comprehensive, although they have now joined an agreement with t-Mobile
to site share. The net effect of this is there's usually 3 coverage wherever
there's t-mobile coverage and vice versa. With the merger of Orange and
t-mobile into everything everywhere, their users can now roam on each others
network, so O2 and Vodafone are at a serious disadvantage (unless they manage
to persuade Ofcom to let them use some 900MHz spectrum for 3G)

In article , funkyoldcortina
wrote:
On 12/12/11 12:21, tony sayer wrote:

Worth checking reception as although offering good deals, 3 have
serious reception issues is more rural areas.

ASDA mobile don't expire also, and are pretty cheap.

In the 5 rural areas I frequent, 3 have the best reception. In most of
these rural areas there's no 3G signal at all from Vodafone or O2, and
in one of them there's no signal of any kind from O2.


Can you say where this is?. Be useful when I'm having arguments re
phone coverage that some seem to think covers every square inch of olde
Englande;!...

Some of these areas are in olde Wales...

I think if you just want good voice coverage then the networks are much
of a muchness - O2 and Vodafone have some advantage as their GSM
networks operate at 900Mhz whereas Orange/t-Mobile operate at 1800Mhz.
Orange and t-Mobile have therefore had to build more base stations to
provide the same amount of coverage. Where 3G is concerned, however, all
networks operate at 2100Mhz. Because most networks just added 3G
capability to their existing base stations, Orange and t-mobile were at
an advantage as they already had more base stations in locations better
suited to the higher frequencies. 3 have built a 3G network from scratch
and in the industry it is regarded as the most comprehensive, although
they have now joined an agreement with t-Mobile to site share. The net
effect of this is there's usually 3 coverage wherever there's t-mobile
coverage and vice versa. With the merger of Orange and t-mobile into
everything everywhere, their users can now roam on each others network,
so O2 and Vodafone are at a serious disadvantage (unless they manage to
persuade Ofcom to let them use some 900MHz spectrum for 3G)

However those that operate at 900MHz have as distinct advantage when it
comes to indoor reception.

--
From KT24

Using a RISC OS computer running v5.16

In article , funkyoldcortina
scribeth thus
On 12/12/11 12:21, tony sayer wrote:

Worth checking reception as although offering good deals, 3 have serious
reception issues is more rural areas.

ASDA mobile don't expire also, and are pretty cheap.

In the 5 rural areas I frequent, 3 have the best reception. In most of these
rural areas there's no 3G signal at all from Vodafone or O2, and in one of
them there's no signal of any kind from O2.


Can you say where this is?. Be useful when I'm having arguments re phone
coverage that some seem to think covers every square inch of olde
Englande;!...

Some of these areas are in olde Wales...

I think if you just want good voice coverage then the networks are much of a
muchness - O2 and Vodafone have some advantage as their GSM networks operate
at 900Mhz whereas Orange/t-Mobile operate at 1800Mhz. Orange and t-Mobile
have therefore had to build more base stations to provide the same amount of
coverage. Where 3G is concerned, however, all networks operate at 2100Mhz.
Because most networks just added 3G capability to their existing base
stations, Orange and t-mobile were at an advantage as they already had more
base stations in locations better suited to the higher frequencies. 3 have
built a 3G network from scratch and in the industry it is regarded as the
most comprehensive, although they have now joined an agreement with t-Mobile
to site share. The net effect of this is there's usually 3 coverage wherever
there's t-mobile coverage and vice versa. With the merger of Orange and
t-mobile into everything everywhere, their users can now roam on each others
network, so O2 and Vodafone are at a serious disadvantage (unless they manage
to persuade Ofcom to let them use some 900MHz spectrum for 3G)



Well I've used all nets from time to time but round this way Voodofone
seem to have the edge on it..

I believe there was an Ofcom report out today where 3 the network
operator weren't scored too well....

--
Tony Sayer

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:26:22 -0000, funkyoldcortina
wrote:

On 12/12/11 12:21, tony sayer wrote:

Worth checking reception as although offering good deals, 3 have
serious
reception issues is more rural areas.

ASDA mobile don't expire also, and are pretty cheap.

In the 5 rural areas I frequent, 3 have the best reception. In most of
these
rural areas there's no 3G signal at all from Vodafone or O2, and in
one of
them there's no signal of any kind from O2.


Can you say where this is?. Be useful when I'm having arguments re phone
coverage that some seem to think covers every square inch of olde
Englande;!...

Some of these areas are in olde Wales...

I think if you just want good voice coverage then the networks are much
of a muchness - O2 and Vodafone have some advantage as their GSM
networks operate at 900Mhz whereas Orange/t-Mobile operate at 1800Mhz.
Orange and t-Mobile have therefore had to build more base stations to
provide the same amount of coverage. Where 3G is concerned, however, all
networks operate at 2100Mhz. Because most networks just added 3G
capability to their existing base stations, Orange and t-mobile were at
an advantage as they already had more base stations in locations better
suited to the higher frequencies. 3 have built a 3G network from scratch
and in the industry it is regarded as the most comprehensive, although
they have now joined an agreement with t-Mobile to site share. The net
effect of this is there's usually 3 coverage wherever there's t-mobile
coverage and vice versa. With the merger of Orange and t-mobile into
everything everywhere, their users can now roam on each others network,
so O2 and Vodafone are at a serious disadvantage (unless they manage to
persuade Ofcom to let them use some 900MHz spectrum for 3G)



I am the OP. ASDA/Vodafone sim worked for Mum in her hospital.

Took my wife to a different hospital to see a consultant in a non-clinical
area yesterday. No signal on my Voda or her Orange.T-mob unless we were
close to a window. New building. Not sure of the construction but never
had any problems around that hospital before.

On 22/12/11 11:31, charles wrote:
In , funkyoldcortina
wrote:
coverage and vice versa. With the merger of Orange and t-mobile into
everything everywhere, their users can now roam on each others network,
so O2 and Vodafone are at a serious disadvantage (unless they manage to
persuade Ofcom to let them use some 900MHz spectrum for 3G)

However those that operate at 900MHz have as distinct advantage when it
comes to indoor reception.


There are no 3G networks that operate at 900Mhz in the UK (yet) though...

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:28:32 -0000, "Hugh - Was Invisible"
wrote:

Took my wife to a different hospital to see a consultant in a non-clinical
area yesterday. No signal on my Voda or her Orange.T-mob unless we were
close to a window. New building. Not sure of the construction but never
had any problems around that hospital before.

Likely foil-faced Kinspan panels all over it.