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Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
O.K. it shouldn't be there.
Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? If it was a normal pan I'd just replace it, but it is an electric frying pan so the replacement cost is much higher. Cheers Dave R -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
On 04/12/2011 21:45, David WE Roberts wrote:
O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? If it was a normal pan I'd just replace it, but it is an electric frying pan so the replacement cost is much higher. Cheers Dave R add water (and or a touch of washing up liquid) and let it heat up? It has probably lost its non-stickability |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
"David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? angle grinder? |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
On 12/4/2011 4:45 PM, David WE Roberts wrote:
O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? If it was a normal pan I'd just replace it, but it is an electric frying pan so the replacement cost is much higher. I use bicarb/baking soda. Use a barely damp sponge dipped into dry baking soda. |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
Actually not far off you will I suspect find its carbon down to the metal.
I think these devices get localised heating as they get old and this cracks the non stick and then its only a matter of time before the inevitable happens. New pan is probably the only solution or you will be scrubbing it for ever until the element or thermostat dies. Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "Gazz" wrote in message ... "David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? angle grinder? |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
Brian Gaff wrote:
What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. Which is why I do not use non stick pans any more..the average life is about 1 week. Until they get crapped up beyond the power to remove the crap without destroying the non stick. Brian |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. What is 'hard carbon' anyway? Sadly, it's not diamond, or we'd all be rich, but it's not graphite either, as that's soft stuff that would wipe away easily. |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
On Dec 5, 10:32*am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? *If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. Which is why I do not use non stick pans any more..the average life is about 1 week. Until they get crapped up beyond the power to remove the crap without destroying the non stick. Brian Nothing removes it completely, but it is possible to remove some of it IME. When non-stick comes out of the dishwasher still hot, the crud is softened, and careful scraping with a fingernail slowly removes it - too slowly to remove a lot each time. I've not found any other type of scraper works. NT |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
GB wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. What is 'hard carbon' anyway? Sadly, it's not diamond, or we'd all be rich, but it's not graphite either, as that's soft stuff that would wipe away easily. My guess is its a polymerised part of the fat with a high carbon content but where all the free molecular ends that respond to alkali and soap are simply absent Probably some sort of ring compound resin..similar to whatever is in bakelite :-) |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
On 05/12/2011 11:19, NT wrote:
On Dec 5, 10:32 am, The Natural wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. Which is why I do not use non stick pans any more..the average life is about 1 week. Until they get crapped up beyond the power to remove the crap without destroying the non stick. Brian Nothing removes it completely, but it is possible to remove some of it IME. When non-stick comes out of the dishwasher still hot, the crud is softened, and careful scraping with a fingernail slowly removes it - too slowly to remove a lot each time. I've not found any other type of scraper works. NT Leave the pan in soak for an hour. The lifespan of ours is 5 years |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
stuart noble wrote:
On 05/12/2011 11:19, NT wrote: On Dec 5, 10:32 am, The Natural wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. Which is why I do not use non stick pans any more..the average life is about 1 week. Until they get crapped up beyond the power to remove the crap without destroying the non stick. Brian Nothing removes it completely, but it is possible to remove some of it IME. When non-stick comes out of the dishwasher still hot, the crud is softened, and careful scraping with a fingernail slowly removes it - too slowly to remove a lot each time. I've not found any other type of scraper works. NT Leave the pan in soak for an hour. The lifespan of ours is 5 years I sioked some smoke damaged china for a week in every household chemical known to man. In the end it was down to abrasive pads.. |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
On 05/12/2011 11:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
stuart noble wrote: On 05/12/2011 11:19, NT wrote: On Dec 5, 10:32 am, The Natural wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. Which is why I do not use non stick pans any more..the average life is about 1 week. Until they get crapped up beyond the power to remove the crap without destroying the non stick. Brian Nothing removes it completely, but it is possible to remove some of it IME. When non-stick comes out of the dishwasher still hot, the crud is softened, and careful scraping with a fingernail slowly removes it - too slowly to remove a lot each time. I've not found any other type of scraper works. NT Leave the pan in soak for an hour. The lifespan of ours is 5 years I sioked some smoke damaged china for a week in every household chemical known to man. In the end it was down to abrasive pads.. The most abrasive thing I ever use on non-stick is a nylon brush (Vileda, not cheap but very long lasting). Curious that baked on animal fats are easier to remove than veggie oil. |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
The Natural Philosopher wrote:
GB wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. What is 'hard carbon' anyway? Sadly, it's not diamond, or we'd all be rich, but it's not graphite either, as that's soft stuff that would wipe away easily. My guess is its a polymerised part of the fat with a high carbon content but where all the free molecular ends that respond to alkali and soap are simply absent Probably some sort of ring compound resin..similar to whatever is in bakelite :-) I wonder what's in oven cleaner? Some strong oxidising agent? -- Register as an organ donor with the NHS online. It takes 1 minute and saves you carrying an organ donor card with you. http://www.uktransplant.org.uk/ukt/h...me_a_donor.jsp |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
Gazz wrote:
angle grinder? Actually, that's exactly the idea I had years ago for cleaning frying pans - some sort of super slow speed drill with a soft abrasive pad pressed down onto the pan surface, with some sort of mechanism to "wiggle" the pan slowly around to move the centre of cleaning around the the surface. Bit like a lense grinding machine. JGH |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
GB wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: GB wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. What is 'hard carbon' anyway? Sadly, it's not diamond, or we'd all be rich, but it's not graphite either, as that's soft stuff that would wipe away easily. My guess is its a polymerised part of the fat with a high carbon content but where all the free molecular ends that respond to alkali and soap are simply absent Probably some sort of ring compound resin..similar to whatever is in bakelite :-) I wonder what's in oven cleaner? Some strong oxidising agent? Its pure caustic soda in a foaming agent. It will get off 'brown' fat but not 'black' fat. You need a fair amount of it to get off thick deposits, and its not kind to aluminium. You need to wash anything down bloody well - a mild acid like vinegar is a good tip - if food is going to come in contact. |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
jgharston wrote:
Gazz wrote: angle grinder? Actually, that's exactly the idea I had years ago for cleaning frying pans - some sort of super slow speed drill with a soft abrasive pad pressed down onto the pan surface, with some sort of mechanism to "wiggle" the pan slowly around to move the centre of cleaning around the the surface. Bit like a lense grinding machine. I've been known to restore straight metal pans with wet and dry paper followed up by valve grinding compound :-) JGH |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
"David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? If it was a normal pan I'd just replace it, but it is an electric frying pan so the replacement cost is much higher. Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I am stuck (!) with some carbon on there. I cooked it several times with a solution of bio washing liquid (for washing clothes) and this, combined with a nylon scrub, seemed to shift some but it would probably take a week to shift it all and would also remove the non-stick. Perhaps a few sauces which are heavy on the tomato might help. Red hot chili? Cheers Dave R -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 19:52:11 -0000, "David WE Roberts"
wrote: "David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? If it was a normal pan I'd just replace it, but it is an electric frying pan so the replacement cost is much higher. Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I am stuck (!) with some carbon on there. I cooked it several times with a solution of bio washing liquid (for washing clothes) and this, combined with a nylon scrub, seemed to shift some but it would probably take a week to shift it all and would also remove the non-stick. Never mind - charcoal's good for you :-) -- Frank Erskine |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
"David WE Roberts" wrote:
"David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? If it was a normal pan I'd just replace it, but it is an electric frying pan so the replacement cost is much higher. Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I am stuck (!) with some carbon on there. I cooked it several times with a solution of bio washing liquid (for washing clothes) and this, combined with a nylon scrub, seemed to shift some but it would probably take a week to shift it all and would also remove the non-stick. Perhaps a few sauces which are heavy on the tomato might help. Red hot chili? Cheers Dave R I recall from somewhere that cooking turkey twizlers was supposed to be good for stripping baked on carbon off of pans. No idea why or whether they are still available. Tim |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
The most abrasive thing I ever use on non-stick is a nylon brush (Vileda, not cheap but very long lasting). Curious that baked on animal fats are easier to remove than veggie oil. For cooked veggie oil the thing is Doktor Power (Macro or Amazon) |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
Tim wrote:
"David WE Roberts" wrote: "David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... O.K. it shouldn't be there. Google hasn't given me much help. I am trying the soaking in a biological washing liquid, but this doesn't seem to be shifting it very much. Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? If it was a normal pan I'd just replace it, but it is an electric frying pan so the replacement cost is much higher. Thanks for all the suggestions. I think I am stuck (!) with some carbon on there. I cooked it several times with a solution of bio washing liquid (for washing clothes) and this, combined with a nylon scrub, seemed to shift some but it would probably take a week to shift it all and would also remove the non-stick. Perhaps a few sauces which are heavy on the tomato might help. Red hot chili? Cheers Dave R I recall from somewhere that cooking turkey twizlers was supposed to be good for stripping baked on carbon off of pans. No idea why or whether they are still available. :-) coke, which has phosphoric acid in it is a useful chemical there ought to be a wiki on acids around te kitchen acetic - vinegar and lemons? citric in citrus fruits oxalic - rhubarb, especially the leaves. phosphoric - coke. Whats in tomatoes? (Also tamarind as a very different sort of 'sour' in it.. Tastes like vitamin C tablets.) Sulphamic - descalers. Formic - descalers. Hydrochloric, vomit and brick acid/patio cleaner Sulphuric - drain cleaner.. Sadly for fat removal alkalis are more use.. soaking a pan in neat caustic soda with JUST enough water to dissolve it, for several says is a good start. Tim |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
In article , The Natural Philosopher
writes "David WE Roberts" wrote in message ... Has anyone a good method of cleaning accumulated carbon off non-stick frying pans to restore the non-stickability or at least reduce the stickability? soaking a pan in neat caustic soda with JUST enough water to dissolve it, for several says is a good start. Def not a good idea for non-stick coated aluminium, any pits in the non-stick and the caustic will open up a cavity under the coating, ruining the pan. -- fred it's a ba-na-na . . . . |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
On Dec 5, 10:32*am, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: What exactly has carbonised? *If its the non stick itself then you are stuffed. IME nothing takes hard carbon off anything except abrasion. Bleach. Works for me every time. (Wife wanted, must be good cook. Or able to breathe without assistance, (some ability to cook preferred.)) |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
I use 91% rubbing alcohol to clean guns before i switch to oil. Tried it on nonstick cookware this afternoon and it got most of the carbon off in 15 minutes of soaking and a little friction with a rubber bottle brush then a blue Scotch-Brite pad.
James |
Cleaning carbon off non stick pans
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