Pleased to see that at least one person has put pen to paper (The Scotsman).

http://www.scotsman.com/news/letters...loud_1_1984243

Tim

In article , Tim Downie
writes
Pleased to see that at least one person has put pen to paper (The Scotsman).

http://www.scotsman.com/news/letters...loud_1_1984243

and that's before the theft and vandalism risks are considered, even
with a 12' razorwire fence, they'd last 5 mins at ground level.
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

fred wrote:
In article , Tim Downie
writes
Pleased to see that at least one person has put pen to paper (The
Scotsman).

http://www.scotsman.com/news/letters...loud_1_1984243

and that's before the theft and vandalism risks are considered, even
with a 12' razorwire fence, they'd last 5 mins at ground level.

Why? they are worthless to steal.

The cables on the other hand.....

In message , The Natural Philosopher
wrote

Why? they are worthless to steal.

The cables on the other hand.....


Locally, I'm sure that the cables are been stolen because the local
press keep saying that they are worth tens of thousands! Obviously this
is not the scrap value but the cost in labour to replace.

If it is reported that the equipment is "worth" £100K then someone will
attempt to steal it.

Perhaps the theft of solar panels from roofs will be more profitable
than stealing the lead ‚¬

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

On Nov 25, 6:51*pm, Alan wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher
wrote



Why? they are worthless to steal.

The cables on the other hand.....

Locally, I'm sure that the cables are been stolen because the local
press keep saying that they are worth tens of thousands! Obviously this
is not the scrap value but the cost in labour to replace.

If it is reported that the equipment is "worth" £100K then someone will
attempt to steal it.

Perhaps the theft of solar panels from roofs will be more profitable
than stealing the lead €

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

It's interesting to relate the cost per panel of this set up, which
will include the security as suggested, but also considerable ground
works, with the cost that is being asked for by the home installers.

800 panels @ £300k = £375 each, against 14 panels at £15k ~= £1k
each. This is not just a question of scale but of rip off of home
owners by the installers.

Rob

In article , The Natural Philosopher
writes
fred wrote:
In article , Tim Downie
writes
Pleased to see that at least one person has put pen to paper (The
Scotsman).

http://www.scotsman.com/news/letters...loud_1_1984243

and that's before the theft and vandalism risks are considered, even
with a 12' razorwire fence, they'd last 5 mins at ground level.

Why? they are worthless to steal.

LOL, quite but bams will steal anything. Likely vandalism of a ground
level site would be the greatest risk. They're not sited on roofs for
nothng.

The cables on the other hand.....

It's solar, surely too thin to be worth nicking. ?
--
fred
it's a ba-na-na . . . .

"robgraham" wrote in message
...
On Nov 25, 6:51 pm, Alan wrote:
In message , The Natural Philosopher
wrote



Why? they are worthless to steal.

The cables on the other hand.....

Locally, I'm sure that the cables are been stolen because the local
press keep saying that they are worth tens of thousands! Obviously this
is not the scrap value but the cost in labour to replace.

If it is reported that the equipment is "worth" £100K then someone will
attempt to steal it.

Perhaps the theft of solar panels from roofs will be more profitable
than stealing the lead €

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

It's interesting to relate the cost per panel of this set up, which
will include the security as suggested, but also considerable ground
works, with the cost that is being asked for by the home installers.

800 panels @ £300k = £375 each, against 14 panels at £15k ~= £1k
each. This is not just a question of scale but of rip off of home
owners by the installers.

------------------------------------------------------------------

Surely this the manufacturers doing the ripping off,

or do you really think that an installer buys by the 1000 on the off chance
that he will sell them

tim

On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:21:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

and that's before the theft and vandalism risks are considered,
even
with a 12' razorwire fence, they'd last 5 mins at ground level.

Why? they are worthless to steal.

So that would be why the panel to provide power at a remote midpoint
was stolen, twice... A decent sized panel is several hundred quid,
off the shelf, if tea leaf wants it for his own use or has a market
at £50 each they are not "worthless to steal".

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:21:31 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

and that's before the theft and vandalism risks are considered,
even
with a 12' razorwire fence, they'd last 5 mins at ground level.
Why? they are worthless to steal.

So that would be why the panel to provide power at a remote midpoint
was stolen, twice...

No that wasn't stolen for profit: That was stolen out of a sense of
public DUTY !!!! :-)

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:33:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

So that would be why the panel to provide power at a remote
midpoint
was stolen, twice...

No that wasn't stolen for profit: That was stolen out of a sense of
public DUTY !!!! :-)

? On a community wireless broadband midpoint?

--
Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:33:38 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

So that would be why the panel to provide power at a remote
midpoint
was stolen, twice...
No that wasn't stolen for profit: That was stolen out of a sense of
public DUTY !!!! :-)

? On a community wireless broadband midpoint?


Oh well, someone hates the community then.

There's some illuminated road signs that are solar/wind powered round
here. They stopped working after 18 months. They were pretty unreliable
before that. I wish someone would steal them. Utterly useless.

On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:06:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

There's some illuminated road signs that are solar/wind powered round
here. They stopped working after 18 months. They were pretty unreliable
before that. I wish someone would steal them. Utterly useless.

Round here they got shot. B-) So do ordinary signs as well but the
illuminated ones that light up to tell you to slow down or the speed
limit seem to attract more fire.

--
Cheers
Dave.