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Is this a stoat?
http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat
If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. |
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It's an ex-stoat.
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ARWadsworth wrote:
It's an ex-stoat. Ha-ha. SWMBO says 'one squeak and a lot of shaking and it was an ex stoat'. Terrier does the same with rabbits. Instant snapped spine and that's it. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: It's an ex-stoat. Ha-ha. SWMBO says 'one squeak and a lot of shaking and it was an ex stoat'. Terrier does the same with rabbits. Instant snapped spine and that's it. Back of the neck usually does the trick. I was walking my parents border the other day and it got hold of and killed 8 rabbits. 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. -- Adam |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: It's an ex-stoat. Ha-ha. SWMBO says 'one squeak and a lot of shaking and it was an ex stoat'. Terrier does the same with rabbits. Instant snapped spine and that's it. Back of the neck usually does the trick. I was walking my parents border the other day and it got hold of and killed 8 rabbits. 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. No. Myxi is always prevalent. Terrier usually hoovers up those and dispatches them quicker and more humanely than I can. They are in fact edible - there is no risk. Early stages they go lethargic: later stages they are blind and relatively senseless. Poor buggers. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: It's an ex-stoat. Ha-ha. SWMBO says 'one squeak and a lot of shaking and it was an ex stoat'. Terrier does the same with rabbits. Instant snapped spine and that's it. Back of the neck usually does the trick. I was walking my parents border the other day and it got hold of and killed 8 rabbits. 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. No. Myxi is always prevalent. Terrier usually hoovers up those and dispatches them quicker and more humanely than I can. They are in fact edible - there is no risk. Early stages they go lethargic: later stages they are blind and relatively senseless. Poor buggers. I was delighted when the border killed the ones with the Myxo/Myxi. (I use the name Myxo but same thing) -- Adam |
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On Oct 10, 5:32*pm, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( |
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If you cross a stoat with a Mink do you get a stink?
Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "ARWadsworth" wrote in message ... It's an ex-stoat. -- Adam |
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No its indemic now. Just that some are more imune than others.
Brian -- Brian Gaff - Note:- In order to reduce spam, any email without 'Brian Gaff' in the display name may be lost. Blind user, so no pictures please! "ARWadsworth" wrote in message ... The Natural Philosopher wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: It's an ex-stoat. Ha-ha. SWMBO says 'one squeak and a lot of shaking and it was an ex stoat'. Terrier does the same with rabbits. Instant snapped spine and that's it. Back of the neck usually does the trick. I was walking my parents border the other day and it got hold of and killed 8 rabbits. 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. -- Adam |
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Brian Gaff wrote:
If you cross a stoat with a Mink do you get a stink? A Moat, maybe? -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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On Oct 10, 6:38*pm, John Williamson
wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: If you cross a stoat with a Mink *do you get a stink? A Moat, maybe? -- Tciao for Now! John. Nice see Tim again in the picture! Lyn |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
On Oct 10, 5:32 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( I hope you stamped on its head. That's generally what I do. No fun dying of myxy. |
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Andy Dingley wrote:
On Oct 10, 5:32 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( It must do. A few years ago it was quite common. It must cycle like measles does. -- Adam |
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John Williamson wrote:
Brian Gaff wrote: If you cross a stoat with a Mink do you get a stink? A Moat, maybe? You taser them. -- Adam |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
Andy Dingley wrote: On Oct 10, 5:32 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( It must do. A few years ago it was quite common. It must cycle like measles does. It does. We have hundreds of rabbits surrounding our school fields, every few years they succumb to it very visibly, which distresses the kids somewhat, being a primary school! It's at this time I get my hands bloody, as it were, every day, despatching those affected by it before the kids get here in the mornings .. fortunately most rabbits are up before or around dawn, well before the kids start arriving. Whilst it's true that you _can_ eat the meat from a Myxi rabbit, I never have, though I do love fresh rabbit .. 'specially when a good 'un happens to cross my path! I suspect (not scientific, just what I've seen over the years) that it never truly goes away, just that some years many more rabbits succumb to it than others. Dunno if it's truly cyclic or just 'one of those things'. -- Paul - xxx Una vita - vitate |
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ARWadsworth wrote:
Andy Dingley wrote: On Oct 10, 5:32 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( It must do. A few years ago it was quite common. It must cycle like measles does. Its part of natural cycles..as rabbits breed, and return to crowded burrows epidemics break out, and wipe out the burrowers. Then low rabbit population = few myxy cases..rabbits breed, reinhabit burrows = ripe for the next pandemic. Many rabbits hit the burrows cos the winter was cold. |
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Paul - xxx wrote:
ARWadsworth wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On Oct 10, 5:32 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( It must do. A few years ago it was quite common. It must cycle like measles does. It does. We have hundreds of rabbits surrounding our school fields, every few years they succumb to it very visibly, which distresses the kids somewhat, being a primary school! It's at this time I get my hands bloody, as it were, every day, despatching those affected by it before the kids get here in the mornings .. fortunately most rabbits are up before or around dawn, well before the kids start arriving. Whilst it's true that you _can_ eat the meat from a Myxi rabbit, I never have, though I do love fresh rabbit .. 'specially when a good 'un happens to cross my path! I have, and it hasn't made me conspicuously worse than I usually am. I suspect (not scientific, just what I've seen over the years) that it never truly goes away, just that some years many more rabbits succumb to it than others. Dunno if it's truly cyclic or just 'one of those things'. Its a chaotic cycle..like most populations that have reached the limits of an ecological niche are. Predators - and in this context a virus is exactly that - then take off and decimate the population, dying back in their turn. Its what is facing the human race right ow..die back to about 30 billion. |
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On Oct 10, 7:30*pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: Paul - xxx wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On Oct 10, 5:32 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( It must do. A few years ago it was quite common. It must cycle like measles does. It does. We have hundreds of rabbits surrounding our school fields, every few years they succumb to it very visibly, which distresses the kids somewhat, being a primary school! It's at this time I get my hands bloody, as it were, every day, despatching those affected by it before the kids get here in the mornings .. fortunately most rabbits are up before or around dawn, well before the kids start arriving. Whilst it's true that you _can_ eat the meat from a Myxi rabbit, I never have, though I do love fresh rabbit .. 'specially when a good 'un happens to cross my path! * I have, and it hasn't made me conspicuously worse than I usually am. I suspect (not scientific, just what I've seen over the years) that it never truly goes away, just that some years many more rabbits succumb to it than others. *Dunno if it's truly cyclic or just 'one of those things'. Its a chaotic cycle..like most populations that have reached the limits of an ecological niche are. Predators - and in this context a virus is exactly that - then take off and decimate the population, dying back in their turn. Its what is facing the human race right ow..die back to about 30 billion. TNP, pleased the Terrier didn't get the black kittens when they lived with you! :-) Lyn |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Do you know how to tell the difference between a weasel and a stoat? |
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Lyndsay wrote:
On Oct 10, 7:30 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote: Paul - xxx wrote: ARWadsworth wrote: Andy Dingley wrote: On Oct 10, 5:32 pm, "ARWadsworth" wrote: 6 of them had myxo and I thought that was now a rarity. It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( It must do. A few years ago it was quite common. It must cycle like measles does. It does. We have hundreds of rabbits surrounding our school fields, every few years they succumb to it very visibly, which distresses the kids somewhat, being a primary school! It's at this time I get my hands bloody, as it were, every day, despatching those affected by it before the kids get here in the mornings .. fortunately most rabbits are up before or around dawn, well before the kids start arriving. Whilst it's true that you _can_ eat the meat from a Myxi rabbit, I never have, though I do love fresh rabbit .. 'specially when a good 'un happens to cross my path! I have, and it hasn't made me conspicuously worse than I usually am. I suspect (not scientific, just what I've seen over the years) that it never truly goes away, just that some years many more rabbits succumb to it than others. Dunno if it's truly cyclic or just 'one of those things'. Its a chaotic cycle..like most populations that have reached the limits of an ecological niche are. Predators - and in this context a virus is exactly that - then take off and decimate the population, dying back in their turn. Its what is facing the human race right ow..die back to about 30 billion. TNP, pleased the Terrier didn't get the black kittens when they lived with you! :-) Rufus set him right and so did Minimou. He bounced up and got a stony stare and a hiss. Been very respectful of cats ever since. Dogs are another matter: some he likes, some he ignores and some get attacked. I have yet to establish the metaphysical ontology of small terriers to identify which its going to be, on any given occasion. Or perhaps its their owners. Lyn |
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Steve Firth wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Do you know how to tell the difference between a weasel and a stoat? You can weasly tell because they are stoatally different? |
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On Oct 10, 6:51*pm, The Natural Philosopher
wrote: It comes and goes. Saw one on a local path (South East Wales levels) just last week. I walked 6" from it and it didn't even move. 8-( I hope you stamped on its head. Angle grinder. |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:11:31 +0000, Steve Firth wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Do you know how to tell the difference between a weasel and a stoat? One is weaselly identified, and the other is stoatally different. -- Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On Oct 10, 8:11*pm, Steve Firth wrote:
Do you know how to tell the difference between a weasel and a stoat? Only one of them tastes like chicken? |
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On 10/10/2011 17:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Sure looks like a ferret to me. Why'd you set the followups? Andy |
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On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:45:30 +0100, Andy Champ wrote:
Sure looks like a ferret to me. Having now google imaged "ferret", it's a ferret. -- Cheers Dave. |
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Andy Champ wrote:
On 10/10/2011 17:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Sure looks like a ferret to me. Why'd you set the followups? Andy So that's why I didn't see my reply, agree ferret. AJH |
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"Phil L" wrote:
Steve Firth wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Do you know how to tell the difference between a weasel and a stoat? You can weasly tell because they are stoatally different? Give the man a see-gar. |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:
andrew wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Feral golden ferret, What an apt description of Hazel.:-) whilst the tail looks a bit dark it looks too big for a stoat and the front isn't white. Its within stoat dimensions. Front of WHAT isn't white? The mask isn't conspicuous so it hasn't much polecat left in it. I'll check its dentition. That should settle the matter. Hmm. I have to say the teeth are ferret. And in a better light there is a vestigial mask. I hope the bloke up the hill's kid isn't missing one.. Damn. could have kept it as a pet. Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. |
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On 10/10/2011 23:18, Phil L wrote:
Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. A bit harsh, Phil. TNP has his moments, but this wasn't one of them. We've a ferret that's near-identical in length and coat to the one in the picture, albeit fatter. And ferrets _love_ to roam - as anyone who's ever taken one for walks (or has lost one - all too easily done) knows painfully well. A mile or two is no challenge at all. Jon -- WATCH OUT FOR THE SPAM BLOCK! Replace 'deadspam' with 'green-lines' to reply in email! |
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Andy Champ wrote:
On 10/10/2011 17:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Sure looks like a ferret to me. Why'd you set the followups? because for some bloody ridiculous reason albsani has a weird policy that wont allow me to cross post to uk.d-i-y and cam.misc without so doing. Andy |
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Phil L wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: andrew wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Feral golden ferret, What an apt description of Hazel.:-) whilst the tail looks a bit dark it looks too big for a stoat and the front isn't white. Its within stoat dimensions. Front of WHAT isn't white? The mask isn't conspicuous so it hasn't much polecat left in it. I'll check its dentition. That should settle the matter. Hmm. I have to say the teeth are ferret. And in a better light there is a vestigial mask. I hope the bloke up the hill's kid isn't missing one.. Damn. could have kept it as a pet. Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. At least I have the decency to admit it when I do make a mistake. I personally have NEVER seen a ferret that colour. |
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Jon Green wrote:
On 10/10/2011 23:18, Phil L wrote: Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. A bit harsh, Phil. TNP has his moments, but this wasn't one of them. We've a ferret that's near-identical in length and coat to the one in the picture, albeit fatter. And ferrets _love_ to roam - as anyone who's ever taken one for walks (or has lost one - all too easily done) knows painfully well. A mile or two is no challenge at all. How about 350 yards downhill across a field...into prime bunny hunting territory.:-( Must have been roaming in the warm sunshine, and couldn't find a bunny-lunch or find its way home. Jon |
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On Oct 10, 6:38*pm, John Williamson
wrote: Brian Gaff wrote: If you cross a stoat with a Mink *do you get a stink? A Moat, maybe? And what do you cross a moat with...Ahh yes a drawbridge. |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes Jon Green wrote: On 10/10/2011 23:18, Phil L wrote: Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. A bit harsh, Phil. TNP has his moments, but this wasn't one of them. We've a ferret that's near-identical in length and coat to the one in the picture, albeit fatter. And ferrets _love_ to roam - as anyone who's ever taken one for walks (or has lost one - all too easily done) knows painfully well. A mile or two is no challenge at all. How about 350 yards downhill across a field...into prime bunny hunting territory.:-( Must have been roaming in the warm sunshine, and couldn't find a bunny-lunch or find its way home. More likely left behind by some amateur rabbiters unwilling to wait while it finished baby rabbit lunch. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes Phil L wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: andrew wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Feral golden ferret, What an apt description of Hazel.:-) whilst the tail looks a bit dark it looks too big for a stoat and the front isn't white. Its within stoat dimensions. Front of WHAT isn't white? The mask isn't conspicuous so it hasn't much polecat left in it. I'll check its dentition. That should settle the matter. Hmm. I have to say the teeth are ferret. And in a better light there is a vestigial mask. I hope the bloke up the hill's kid isn't missing one.. Damn. could have kept it as a pet. Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. At least I have the decency to admit it when I do make a mistake. I personally have NEVER seen a ferret that colour. I have. I have an idea my father's Ferrets were albino and had pink eyes. regards -- Tim Lamb |
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Phil L wrote:
The Natural Philosopher wrote: andrew wrote: The Natural Philosopher wrote: http://www.shaman.co.uk/stoat If so its got its winter coat damned early. But it doesn't seem to be a mink, polecat ferret or weasel.. Although the face is reminiscent of Hazel Blears.. Feral golden ferret, What an apt description of Hazel.:-) whilst the tail looks a bit dark it looks too big for a stoat and the front isn't white. Its within stoat dimensions. Front of WHAT isn't white? The mask isn't conspicuous so it hasn't much polecat left in it. I'll check its dentition. That should settle the matter. Hmm. I have to say the teeth are ferret. And in a better light there is a vestigial mask. I hope the bloke up the hill's kid isn't missing one.. Damn. could have kept it as a pet. Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. Ferret? |
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"Jon Green" wrote in message o.uk... On 10/10/2011 23:18, Phil L wrote: Don't be a prat. Its nothing like a ferret, and it was at least half a mile from any habitation except you. A bit harsh, Phil. TNP has his moments, but this wasn't one of them. We've a ferret that's near-identical in length and coat to the one in the picture, albeit fatter. And ferrets _love_ to roam - as anyone who's ever taken one for walks (or has lost one - all too easily done) knows painfully well. A mile or two is no challenge at all. I think if you read back up thread a bit you will find this is a quote derived from a usually reliable source central to the conversation :-) -- No plan survives contact with the enemy. [Not even bunny] Helmuth von Moltke the Elder (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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"Paul - xxx" wrote: I suspect (not scientific, just what I've seen over the years) that it never truly goes away, just that some years many more rabbits succumb to it than others. Dunno if it's truly cyclic or just 'one of those things'. When there are few rabbits they don't burrow. So mixi is almost non-existant. So they breed like... rabbits. Population high, they burrow, share fleas and get mixi. Population drops. mixi diminishes....ad nauseum.... -- B Thumbs Change lycos to yahoo to reply |
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